*Pre-Order On 11.11* Cadisen C1030 Automatic Watch, Winding/Hacking, 50M, Hardened Mineral Crystal, Date, Power Reserve, £32.57 @ Aliexpress
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*Pre-Order On 11.11* Cadisen C1030 Automatic Watch, Winding/Hacking, 50M, Hardened Mineral Crystal, Date, Power Reserve, £32.57 @ Aliexpress

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Posted 31st OctEdited by:"louiselouise"
Official Cadisen Store at Aliexpress. This is a "pre-order" price that goes live on 11.11. "Add to Cart now, shop during sale".
3320816.jpgThese "Nomos-alike" watches have been produced by a few Chinese watch brands - the Guanqin GJ16106 (in Blue) was one of my first China watch purchases. And one of my first Automatics, come to think of it, a year ago.

42mm dial, 35 Hour Power Reserve (though a Youtube reviewer below had theirs running for 47!), Hangzhou 2b00 Movement, 5ATM WR (50M Water Resistance), Manual Winding/Hacking, Quick Set Date, 22mm lug width
(same as the Guanqin GJ16106, Feice/Feike FM202, Binger 1187G - though the latter two state 3ATM on their case backs)

The dial differs slightly with each brand, and the Cadisen C1030 has fewer colours available (in this case, Black/Silver Hands, White/Blue Hands or White/Rose Gold/Blue Hands). Some listings state the Guanqin version has Sapphire Crystal, but not according to my Diamond Selector II!

All Stainless Steel and, if it's anything like the Guanqin I had (and broke with a hard fall to the ground!) it really punches above its weight.

As HoustonReal on the WUS Aliexpress thread said: "These all seem to be using Hangzhou 2000 series (Automatic) movements (based on Seiko 7009), but Cadisen has turned the PR scale up to 42hrs, a la Spinal Tap"

All the Nomos Lambda homages I could find info on, here
3320816.jpg3320816.jpg3320816.jpg3320816.jpg3320816.jpg3320816-orZtB.jpgHere's real-world pictures from a For Sale Watchuseek thread (note the Blue hands don't show up that well in these pictures, but you see them clearly in Youtube videos, etc):3320816.jpg3320816.jpg3320816.jpgAnother real-world picture from Google (this photo suggests the Black could look grey in some angles/lighting?):3320816.jpgImgur images of the White/Blue hands here

Review:

And another (the scratch resistance of the crystal is tested at 4:09 - it does pretty well. Water resistance is tested too, at 4:28 - tested full power reserve was 47 hours for this reviewer, at 3:59):
(By the way, the Guanqin I had kept excellent time and really impressed me - before I gimped the mainspring with a violent hit to the floor )
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Gee, the first YouTube reviewer, Watch Geek, spends most of his time moaning about the milanese bracelet...I had mine adjusted and on my wrist in seconds. Unless he got a faulty bracelet?

Edit: Watching it with audio (I was trying to be quiet in the middle of the night with subtitles on, haha) - he thinks the mesh bracelet needs to catch on the "notches" whilst being adjusted or it comes undone on his wife's wrist. I have thin wrists myself, and had no problems whatsoever.

Interesting that he thinks smaller watches look better on men and bigger watches better on women (makes their wrists seem slimmer, apparently - though I have toddler wrists already!). Not sure many would agree!
Edited by: "louiselouise" 31st Oct
They seem amazingly cheap for automatics?
@louiselouise What is hacking in this context?
jasee31/10/2019 07:29

They seem amazingly cheap for automatics?@louiselouise What is hacking in …They seem amazingly cheap for automatics?@louiselouise What is hacking in this context?


Hacking is when you're setting the time, the second hand is stopped so you can set the time/seconds more accurately. Non-hacking watches just keep ticking away while you're trying to set them.
Nice! According to the forum experts on the internetz, the names of some of these Chinese watches are a piss-take on Western watch brands. So Cadisen = Citizen; Guanqing = Longines, etc. If true, this would definititely attest to the Chinese sense of humour!
SharkSandwich31/10/2019 07:52

Nice! According to the forum experts on the internetz, the names of some …Nice! According to the forum experts on the internetz, the names of some of these Chinese watches are a piss-take on Western watch brands. So Cadisen = Citizen; Guanqing = Longines, etc. If true, this would definititely attest to the Chinese sense of humour!



I wonder what the equivalent of "Handlove" is! amazon.co.uk/HAN…PIO

And, of course, there's Wancher amazon.co.uk/Wan…ZCZ
Edited by: "louiselouise" 31st Oct
louiselouise31/10/2019 10:59

I wonder what the equivalent of "Handlove" is! I wonder what the equivalent of "Handlove" is! https://www.amazon.co.uk/HANDLOVE-Automatic-Mechanical-Fashionable-Strap-Color/dp/B00B66APIOAnd, of course, there's Wancher https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wancher-Chronograph-Manual-Hand-winding-Mechanical/dp/B072Q42ZCZ


Wancher = Wenger?
Mr.Nutts31/10/2019 11:02

Wancher = Wenger?



Only mentioned it for punn-y purposes. Nothing beats SLOAR though!

*Had to fix the link when I got to a Desktop - Tapatalk (which Watchuseek directs you to, on a mobile) is a pain.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 31st Oct
louiselouise31/10/2019 11:08

Only mentioned it for punn-y purposes. Nothing beats SLOAR though!


I don't have time for watch puns.
I would only buy a NEW watch, and not...second-hand...
Ok sorry, I'll dial it down now... I just like to wind-up members.
Couldn't face another pun-contest with anyone.
People probably just think I'm a tickhead.
Edited by: "Mr.Nutts" 31st Oct
The Crystal for this watch is described as "Hardened Mineral Crystal" so maybe it's their version of the dreaded Hardlex (though it does pretty well with scratches, see above, or here at 4:09)

On the latter Youtube review, someone comments saying this (maybe all?) Nomos homages are made by Guanqin which is why they're so similar, and you can ask for your own logo - assume if you're buying wholesale.

Paul Grocock 1 month ago
Made by Quangin, several dial variants, you can even have your own logo. Good movement and accurate

Some prefer the Cadisen C1030 to the Guanqin GJ16106 as the text on the dial is kept to a minimum. The Feike/Feice FM202 variety is nice too, but it seems to sell for crazy prices for some reason. Eg, here and here

The Aliexpress link also says £32.43 now, must be currency fluctuations.38863298-FM4yd.jpgHere's me wearing my Guanqin (Blue) GJ16106 last year (note the nice sunburst effect, which I assume the Black will have - the White dial varieties seem matte) - I wonder what Gearbest's 11.11 prices will be like !38863298-Y6ba2.jpg
Edited by: "louiselouise" 31st Oct
'To Win Warm Praise From You'. Love it LOL!
Well, in the end, I didn't succumb to the 11.11 watch lovelies.

On Watchuseek GarySeiko commented on a certain Parnis (various colours) which is gorgeous and I found a Power Reserve version I really like. Too late now!38974151-r0fPh.jpgThere's a version without a Power Reserve function but somehow I found the worst picture in the world for it and it put me off - other listings (with silver-y hands/indices) actually look more legible.38974151-b8gdq.jpgThough I have read with Parnis there's varying Quality Control, a true case of "buying the seller, not the watch", so that put me off slightly too.
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