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Posted 3rd Nov 2007

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Just a little known tip for all you pregnant women.

When travelling by train you are entitled to a free 1st class upgade so long as you have proof eg NHS exemption card/MATB1

As part of "the national conditions of rail travel" pregnant women are allowed to travel in 1st class on a standard rail ticket.

Make the most of the big seats, extra leg room and free drinks!!!

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On trains here 1st class isn't any different,think they got the cheek to charge more,its not any private for those wanting privacy, or any different ride than sat in standard seats.
Besides I would prefer sitting in a busy carriage than sat in a private carriage where you don't know who might approach you.As when I was at home my parents always told me to sit in a busy carriage rather than on my own cos you never know who might come along.
If I was pregnant and I was travelling a long journey I would book my seats in advance instead just buying a ticket and expecting to get on and get a seat.
I've been on trains before and I have been offered a seat,I still think you get a lot of people about with manners. Just like I would offer my seat to elderly person etc.
Sometimes I don't sit down on a train if where the part is I get on if there is not a seat there on end as sometimes its easier for my daughter to sit in her pushchair and I will stand in that part if I can't perch on an end seat to hold onto her pushchair,more so if I'm only on 5 or 10mins.
fluffy25

Resent being villified as i was only trying to helpThe info is from a … Resent being villified as i was only trying to helpThe info is from a reliable source which is page 7 of Dec 2007 Mother and Baby mag (which I feel is reliable info) any one agree?




The post is complete rubbish - there is no "automatic" right to 1st class travel because you are pregnant.
The only exception is on a packed train when there is NO standard class seating (throughout the whole train) or where it is unreasonable for the passenger to remain in standard class (i.e if she is heavily pregnant and the alternative is standing for a long time), , the guard on the train will probably allow a pregnant woman to sit in 1st class if she has to stand, and would probaby declassify 1st class - but there is no automatic right, this is down to the discretion of the guard and permission should be obtained BEFORE sitting in 1st class.
In fact the opposite of this post is true, I witnessed a pregnant passenger issued a penalty fare for sitting in 1st class only about a month ago.
She too thought she had the right to sit in 1st class, it cost her £30 to find out she was wrong.
Just found what you are talking about - i don't know if this is true of all train companies but this is from the south eastern website:

"We realise it can be difficult for pregnant women travelling on our busy trains when there are no seats available. So, Southeastern monthly or longer season ticket customers who are 20 weeks into their pregnancy can apply for authorisation to sit in First Class if there are no seats left in Standard class. We offer this as a courtesy to mums-to-be but of course cannot guarantee that there will always be a seat available.

To apply, we need a copy of a MAT B1 form, or a signed letter from your GP or midwife which confirms pregnancy and the date the baby is due. We also need a photocopy of your current monthly or longer season ticket and your photocard, along with your name, address and daytime telephone number. Please send these to:


Southeastern Customer Services
PO Box 286
Plymouth
PL4 6WU"

So this ONLY applies to season ticket holders AND permission must be obtained in writing, in advance - and even then it is only when there are no seats left in standard class.
As it states this is out of courtesy only.
Does this offer should apply to men with big bellies as well?
fluffy25

Wish I had never started this post now, just brought all the odd bods out … Wish I had never started this post now, just brought all the odd bods out to talk about 'women shouldn't get pregnant if they want to be comfortable' and 'you made her pregnant buy her a 1st class ticket'Sick if you ask me, no wonder the world is such a vile place when men have opinions like that.I am a nurse and do hope that 1 day they come to my A&E needing my help, I will show them comfort.Ian


How is that vile? You want her to be comfortable, ensure she gets a nice seat instead of expecting the train to be available with loads of seats. A bit rude that you wouldn't buy her one, if you ask me!
You know I've got to agree with fluffy25, that some user's are being jerk's ( Although I prefer to think that I was just being 'Cheeky' ). I do think that Everyone need's to just 'Calm Down' now OK ?....... ( here comes the storm !? )

K
fluffy25

Wish I had never started this post now



The problem with the thread is, as i've already suggested, that it's inaccurate.


elliff

The post is complete rubbish - there is no "automatic" right to 1st class … The post is complete rubbish - there is no "automatic" right to 1st class travel because you are pregnant.



Indeed. See my posts: hotukdeals.com/for…=10 and hotukdeals.com/for…=12
Is anyone who has posted or reading this thread actually pregnant and tried this or going to? If so, could you let us know the outcome please? Never mind the terms and speculation, lets get some real answers.

If not, then stop huffing and puffing about something you're not going to or able to use. Lets give fluffy25 some credit for being bothered to let us know something she found useful for some of us - could be good to know if it works!
davej1710

Is anyone who has posted or reading this thread actually pregnant and … Is anyone who has posted or reading this thread actually pregnant and tried this or going to? If so, could you let us know the outcome please? Never mind the terms and speculation, lets get some real answers. If not, then stop huffing and puffing about something you're not going to or able to use. Lets give fluffy25 some credit for being bothered to let us know something she found useful for some of us - could be good to know if it works!




well said.
mikewot

Opened the door for a woman once who was one of those extreme feminists … Opened the door for a woman once who was one of those extreme feminists as she said "You don't need to open the door for me!" My reply was "I didn't open the door because you're a woman but because I'm a gentlemen".


Twice in the past I've had females complain at me for holding the door open for them. Now I only bother for everyone EXCEPT women.
[SIZE=2]There is no way this applies on Midland Mainline/East Midlands Trains. In the past I've used descretion on a really busy service but you often get people including pregnant women saying there are no seats left when often it's people that like a seat for their bag too and don't like anyone sitting next to them.[/SIZE]
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when i was 3 months pregnant and i was really big then i was standing on the bus and no one even looked up or offered me a seat pretending they could see my rounded tum so bloody rude
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Scotty2k0

[SIZE=2]There is no way this applies on Midland Mainline/East Midlands … [SIZE=2]There is no way this applies on Midland Mainline/East Midlands Trains. In the past I've used descretion on a really busy service but you often get people including pregnant women saying there are no seats left when often it's the strange people that like a seat for their bag too and don't like anyone sitting next to them.[/SIZE]



i prefer not to have weird or smelly people anywhere near me when im on the train 2 i would rather stand on these occassions
This thread is rather random, i will never be pregnant (being a bloke) but i would always give up my seat if needed, pregnancy is something most women go through so as i guy i hope that someone would give their seat to my partner and i guess most of the people that say otherwise dont think about how uncomfortable it is to be preggers
Oh the joys of our wonderful integrated public transport system. When we're all eventually taxed off the road, we can either cycle the umpteen miles in to work or stay at home and watch repeats of Jeremy Kyle.
I blame the Victorians, peaked way too quickly.
lol.........I edited my original post didn't want to offend anyone but there are some really strange people. I wouldn't question anyone who had the decency to find the find the train manager first before taking a seat rather than just sitting in first class and expecting the upgrade.
ilovepink

i prefer not to have weird or smelly people anywhere near me when im on … i prefer not to have weird or smelly people anywhere near me when im on the train 2 i would rather stand on these occassions




True.
We wouldn't want him round us either,see here.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/h…stm

you probably about heard it on our local news.

I wouldn't want any seat if I saw him about,I be getting off fast!
I did hear about this, unreal!
Scotty2k0

I did hear about this, unreal!




I beleive tho I did hear later on they caught him.
Always give up my seat to pregnant women; however it can be quite difficult (some fat women look pregnant, and vice versa). Any pregnant woman that asks for a seat is going to be obliged, so no real issue ...
Jeez, you people. Cut the OP some slack - she's (he?) just trying to help people!
csiman

Twice in the past I've had females complain at me for holding the door … Twice in the past I've had females complain at me for holding the door open for them. Now I only bother for everyone EXCEPT women.



I've had this too. Hence, I no longer do it.

Sorry ladies, but don't try and hold men entirely responsible for the lack of chivalry these days - you play your part too.
ferple

Jeez, you people. Cut the OP some slack - she's (he?) just trying to … Jeez, you people. Cut the OP some slack - she's (he?) just trying to help people!



Thanks you, thats what i thought this site is all about.

Wont post in future (I understand that there are some issues with this post but as i read it in a well known mag I thought you should all know)

Thanks for your support
This is the most depressing thread I have ever read.

Are we really so used to our turd public services that nobody thinks that maybe everybody who buys a ticket should get a seat?
After commuting between Edinburgh and Dundee (one and a half hours) by train daily for around eight months this thread doesn't surprise me. I usually had to stand for at the very least half the journey and sometimes the full journey. Better yet the Edinburgh/Dundee line is a low priority one whereas the Edinburgh/Glasgow is their high priority line which meant if there were any breakdowns that line would always get our train and we'd be stuck with the old trains. That meant a two carriage train (when three wasn't enough) with no air conditioning and no proper standing room...there was barely enough room to stand, being squashed up against people in the height of summer with no air conditioning for one and a half hours....ugh. They wonder why people prefer to take their cars!

Then again I'm sure many people are reading that and laughing as they've had to put up with it for years, I've no idea how people can put put with commuting into the big cities.

John
ferple

Jeez, you people. Cut the OP some slack - she's (he?) just trying to … Jeez, you people. Cut the OP some slack - she's (he?) just trying to help people!



Here, here.

There are far too many internet warriors on these boards.
Are they going to give a pregnancy test to someone who's not showing yet to verify you are telling the truth? :giggle:
Money Spinning

Are they going to give a pregnancy test to someone who's not showing yet … Are they going to give a pregnancy test to someone who's not showing yet to verify you are telling the truth? :giggle:



Of course.

'Excuse me madam, do you mind peeing on to this please?'
im fat n round will they let me lol x
if your pregnant and travelling by train you should expect to stand as everyone has paid the same cost for their ticket i gues thats what most people think and rightly so really as tickets cost so much we should be all guaranteed a seat on long journeys.
However saying that Me personally i would give my seat up for a pregnant or eldery or disabled person if their need is greater than mine.
Its all about how you feel on that day, as i travel up to 3 hrs a time on a train if ive worked 8 days in a row without a day off im keeping my seat as im exhausted.
I can't believe that there are actually women out there who actually complain about having the door held open for them! I would say that most women like a bit of chivalry its what separates us ..... (probably get shot down now by the feminists).

Some of the users on here have taken this way out of proportion, the op was only posting something he saw in a magazine which is aimed at pregnant women, (not the elderly or disabled) could you not just accept the post for what it was? This site is getting worse with people complaining about bargains, do you really have so much time on your hands that you have time to complain???
Well if any woman who isnt pregnant would like to get pregnant, me and a few of the lads would love to assist in them meeting the terms of the offer.
Where did you get this information from?
This is totally untrue, first one on me, if there is room in standard class and a pregnant is travelling on on a saver or standard ticket they must use the seating in A.B.C.D.E there is no free upgrading 1st class. Only in extremes when the train is full and standing will the Train Manager decide to de-class some 1st class coaches. So if you are pregnant don`t expect to sit in 1st class as you will be charged and it`s £180.00 in the week days Man Picc - Euston or vice versa. Sat & Sun £15.00.
fluffy25;1148810

Did I say they are more deserving?Let me answer - No



Let's be honest, being pregnant is not an illness or disability, but being disabled or handicapped is!
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