Pro-Ject Debut III Turntable £170 - AMAZON.FR
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Pro-Ject Debut III Turntable £170 - AMAZON.FR

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Found 28th Apr 2015
ABSOLUTELY ASTONISHING DEAL !!! Nearly half the price compared to amazon.co.uk - PRICE INCLUDES DELIVERY

Building On The Success Of The Debut Ii, Pro-Ject Is Back With The Debutiii! This Record Player Includes An Ortofon Omb 5E Cartridge Forincredible Bass And Treble, A Flat Belt With Rotational Speed Control, And Anmdf Base With Four Shock-Absorbing Feet To Prevent Resonance. The Debutiii Is Certainly Going To Be A Hard One To Beat! This Manually Operated Record Player Has Everything You Could Possibly Needfor 33Rpm And 45 Rpm Vinyl Classics. The Tone-Arm On The Debut Iii Is Accompanied By A Head Shell Madeout Of One Piece Aluminium. Plus, There'S +/-0.8% Speed Control And A Downforcerange Of 10-30Mn To Bring Out The Best In All Your Old Favourites.

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Could you change this to a 3 pin plug easily enough?

Original Poster

drunk1

Could you change this to a 3 pin plug easily enough?


Most Amps have two pin plug sockets at the back. That's what I plug my european Pro-ject turntable into.
But I'm sure you can just buy an adapter ?

drunk1

Could you change this to a 3 pin plug easily enough?



No, you need to get some quotes to do the job from qualified electricans

seriously tempted

Top quality turn tables ..the best for the price, and last years....you would need a uk power adaptor , the uk version comes with the 240v uk 3 pin plug end, then into a low voltage end for the deck..but for this price, this wont be a problem.

You could plug it into an adaper, or buy a replacement power supply: henleydesigns.co.uk/Tur…602

Apparently it's a 16V 500mA supply


Edited by: "ArthurDent1" 28th Apr 2015

Within the realms of acceptability France has a parallel electrical supply to us (We are deemed to be legally allowed to float between 216 & 253V ac at 50 Hz the French system is expected to be 230V ac at 50 Hz so the only difference between the record decks either side of the channel is the plug. (French have a non-earthed 2 pin system whereby we operate an earthed 3 pin plug). The only problem I can foresee by removing the plug and replacing with a UK is one of Warranty. Speak to Pro-ject or as another poster has suggested just use a foreign travel adaptor to convert the french plug to our layout.

These use a wall wart so there's no plug to remove... The power supply is the plug!
Solution? Get a Euro to UK adapter, the opposite of what you'd use when you go on holiday in Europe.

I don't know if Pro-ject have fixed it but this model has a lovely problem with rumble, and there's an aftermarket kit for about thirty quid that is the only thing that will fix it.
Edited by: "bleachingshane" 9th May 2015

This page details the rumble issues with this model:

theapplechap.webspace.virginmedia.com/The…tml

For the repair kit it can be found from Henley Designs, Audio Affair or just type 'Pro-ject Debut Upgrade Kit' into Amazon. Currently £25 with free delivery.

Edited by: "bleachingshane" 9th May 2015

I took my Pro-ject Debut with me from the Netherlands, so I can answer some of the questions asked.The cable is integrated to the player, but Euro mains and UK are the same - simply get a converter plug for a few quid and you'll be fine.

For 40 euro more (around 29 GPB) you can upgrade the element. The basic model comes with an Ortofon OM5e, 40 Euro extra will get you the Ortofon OM10e element. Google some to see if this is worth it, I would say it is.


Link to version with OM10e
Edited by: "Oz1um" 9th May 2015

Been waiting for one of these to come down in price.

Many thanks.

Why do folk still listen to vinyl?

not a technics 1210 so cold! only kidding, good price. Heat

scallygally

Why do folk still listen to vinyl?



Magical word Marketing does the job.

scallygally

Why do folk still listen to vinyl?



The smell of vinyl gets you high and makes the music sound better...

But seriously. Putting on a record can completely transport you back in time to how you were and how you felt when you first heard it. Or remind you of the people you used to listen to stuff with when buying an album was an event.

The physicality and artwork embeds an album far more deeply in memory than a download.

This or the Ion vinyl to MP3 converter..

Elevation

This or the Ion vinyl to MP3 converter..


This!
Why even compare them?

Worked out 178 for me with post, still a spanking deal HEAT.

darrenleereid72

This!Why even compare them?



Cos the other one is about 40 quid and I can convert to MP3.

apparently record sales are at a 10 year high

Elevation

Cos the other one is about 40 quid and I can convert to MP3.


It's also truly awful.

scallygally

Why do folk still listen to vinyl?



If you have to ask, then you will never get it...

sgs222

Magical word Marketing does the job.




Are you serious?

You realise that Vinyl is a 24bit format, which is the format it is mixed in, in the studio. A CD is 16bit and the audio is compressed. Analogue is the way to listen to music..... Hence Vinyl's popularity.

Where is the Amazon UK price? Seems to be £260 when I searched.

scallygally

Why do folk still listen to vinyl?


Because it has a better sound and you can't beat the nostalgia.

anonimousse

1. Collection2. Nostalgia3. Sound4. Experience



Pretty much this.

For me:
- Listening to vinyl is a much more involved. When I listen to music on my computer, I press play then I tend to just browse the internet. For vinyl I actually have to get up, pick a record, put in on the turntable, and then I have to switch sides or records after every few tracks. I actually listen to the music more, as opposed to having it on the background.
- It's nice to have a physical record collection with nice big full colour artwork. I have tons of mp3s which just get fired onto a hard drive and forgotten about.
- There are many rare and vinyl only releases which are nice to have.
- I use vinyl because I like to dj as a hobby. Mixing with vinyl is fun and requires skill - much more difficult than mixing with cd's or mp3's. (Anyone who says that 'only real djs play vinyl' are idiots)

Without going into detail, for the most part, I don't really agree that vinyl sounds better than a good quality digital source. With decent equipment, it can sound amazing though!
Edited by: "derrycityboy" 9th May 2015

buy british and get a rega instead. the rp1 comes up regularly for 180, classed as seconds a t that price but look perfect

pitsey

Are you serious?You realise that Vinyl is a 24bit format, which is the … Are you serious?You realise that Vinyl is a 24bit format, which is the format it is mixed in, in the studio. A CD is 16bit and the audio is compressed. Analogue is the way to listen to music..... Hence Vinyl's popularity.



vinyl cannot have bits since that is a digital measure and it is more compressed than cd due to riaa equalisation. at least read wikipedia or somethimg rather than making things up.

dan1979

vinyl cannot have bits since that is a digital measure and it is more … vinyl cannot have bits since that is a digital measure and it is more compressed than cd due to riaa equalisation. at least read wikipedia or somethimg rather than making things up.



You started off well, but RIAA is to do with equalising the frequencies from the record on playback, nothing to do with compression. True analogue masters without any digital processing pressed to virgin vinyl is one of the purest forms of audio recording. Coupled with good reproduction experience the sound quality can be phenomenal. That said, DVD-Audio and SACD did a pretty good job too and any of these are a big improvement over CD.

Many thanks - been looking out for a turntable for months now. Ordered.

I listen to vinyl because I have several hundred vinyl albums, many of which I haven't yet replaced with CD or other digital formats. If my LP12 broke and was unreparable I'd buy either one of these of a Rega (I had one of those in the '80s) as I could no longer justify the cost of an LP12 for a collection I'm no longer adding too.

Over time I'll probably replace all my vinyl with CD (ripped to FLAC) or downloads. I doubt I'll get rid of the vinyl or the turntable then though - they're beautiful objects in much the same way old books, maps, cameras, etc. often are so I'm happy to have them (I also have some old books, maps and cameras).

If I didn't already have a vinyl collection would I start one now and buy a turntable? Not as a practical way of listening to music. As an interesting item to collect, maybe - everyone needs a hobby! In which case I'd need a turntable to play them occasionally and this is cheap enough to justify itself for that.

I do wonder how many people have an amplifier with a pre-amp stage now though - doesn't that add significantly to the cost for most people?

Im looking to get my first turntable. What sort of money should I spend?

Original Poster

jjfisher93

Im looking to get my first turntable. What sort of money should I spend?


Around £170

jjfisher93

Im looking to get my first turntable. What sort of money should I spend?


I bought my first turntable for 20 years today, got one of these Denon turntables as an Amazon Warehouse deal for £100 instead of £150, it plugs straight into speakers without the need for an amp.
Edited by: "depressed_toad" 9th May 2015

dan1979

vinyl cannot have bits since that is a digital measure and it is more … vinyl cannot have bits since that is a digital measure and it is more compressed than cd due to riaa equalisation. at least read wikipedia or somethimg rather than making things up.



I was on about the 24 bit master from the studio, very little is kept in a pure analogue form these days. Stop pretending to be stupid. This is compressed to fit on a CD, but it isn't for Vinyl formats. SACD as mentioned above is more comparable to the studio master.

If 24bit 96 khz rips were available. I'd get them. Neil Young and his Pono were trying to do this.

Edited by: "pitsey" 9th May 2015

No good for scratching

splitting hairs. the sound on vinyl has to be messed with to play back otherwise the record wouldnt track. technically cd beats vinyl. whether it sounds better is subjective.

These are rubbish, noisy useless bearings, crap cartridge/stylus etc.
Not the best way to get in to enjoying Vinyl, get a Rega or something second hand if on a budget.

And the Amazon.co.uk one is an SE!

Edited by: "RustySpoons" 9th May 2015
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