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Project Debut 3 SE turntable record player - £219 @ Richer Sounds
Project Debut 3 SE turntable record player - £219 @ Richer Sounds

Project Debut 3 SE turntable record player - £219 @ Richer Sounds

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Been on the lookout for a new turntable and this looks like a good deal to me. £66 discount on a rarely-on-sale decent quality player.

Free standard delivery or £4.99 for next day.

You could possibly also use this for a Superfi price beat to save a few extra quid.

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Just remember you need a Pre-Amp for this. If your Hi-fi doesn't have a Phono input you'll need to source one.

Good piece of kit, my project debut from way back is still going strong.

Aww man super hot memories but not sure about the price

Having had a Rega Planar back in the day I don't understand this resurgance in vinyl. I'll stick with my CD's and lossless copies.

Product is great and does exactly what you expect, but do not believe the Amazon prime next day delivery even when ordered in the correct time window it does not happen!

Ahh Pro-ject turntables and their humongous amounts of rumble. I've been wanting to set fire to my Debut III for years.

bleachershane

Ahh Pro-ject turntables and their humongous amounts of rumble. I've been … Ahh Pro-ject turntables and their humongous amounts of rumble. I've been wanting to set fire to my Debut III for years.


My 20 year old Pro-ject P1 is rumble free and always has been.
Incidentally RS also have a good deal on the Debut Carbon, currently £50 off at £299 with code EASTER50, tempted to treat myself.

I have a project debut. Nice, well built, good sounding budget turntable. You can't really go wrong with one of these

Mr_Lovebucket

My 20 year old Pro-ject P1 is rumble free and always has … My 20 year old Pro-ject P1 is rumble free and always has been.Incidentally RS also have a good deal on the Debut Carbon, currently £50 off at £299 with code EASTER50, tempted to treat myself.


The III was legendarily plagued with terrible rumble issues, so much an aftermarket kit was sold to try and cure it (it didn't work all that well). Vinyl playback is an absolute killer to get right on a budget, which is a shame.

TheBiker

Having had a Rega Planar back in the day I don't understand this … Having had a Rega Planar back in the day I don't understand this resurgance in vinyl. I'll stick with my CD's and lossless copies.



I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks this way. I just don't get this "it sounds much better on vinyl " stuff

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bleachershane

The III was legendarily plagued with terrible rumble issues, so much an … The III was legendarily plagued with terrible rumble issues, so much an aftermarket kit was sold to try and cure it (it didn't work all that well). Vinyl playback is an absolute killer to get right on a budget, which is a shame.



​The SE on sale here is already fitted with the upgrade kit I believe

TheBiker

Having had a Rega Planar back in the day I don't understand this … Having had a Rega Planar back in the day I don't understand this resurgance in vinyl. I'll stick with my CD's and lossless copies.



Half the story is about dynamic range my son, dynamic range.
Plus you become a hipster overnight.
Edited by: "hcc27" 11th Apr

hcc27

Half the story is about dynamic range my son, dynamic range. Plus you … Half the story is about dynamic range my son, dynamic range. Plus you become a hipster overnight.



Vinyl has less dynamic range than CD. The issue is not the medium but el sh*to mastering.

Seems a lot of money to play crackly old vinyl. I'll stick with my Sansa Clip.

Had the carbon version of this and upgraded it with the acrylic platter and have to say the difference in sound is night and day.Onky issue is the cover scratched really easy.In all great piece of kit but get rid of the metal platter.

hcc27

Half the story is about dynamic range my son, dynamic range. Plus you … Half the story is about dynamic range my son, dynamic range. Plus you become a hipster overnight.



Might be a cool or hip fad but it's not true that Vinyl has a better dynamic range, it's not possible! Infact they have to use dynamic range compression when mastering some records so that the cutter dosent bleed into the adjacent groove during loud passages.

The crackles, pops and hiss (which would drive me crazy) mean that the signal to noise ratio is no where near a CD, a decent CD player will play pure silence when it's meant to, you can't say that for records.

You might prefer the inferior sound for whatever reason but Vinyl cannot compete with CD or other digital formats in terms of quality.


bleachershane

The III was legendarily plagued with terrible rumble issues, so much an … The III was legendarily plagued with terrible rumble issues, so much an aftermarket kit was sold to try and cure it (it didn't work all that well). Vinyl playback is an absolute killer to get right on a budget, which is a shame.


You can't use the thirds rule once you're in the vinyl world. You should be thinking 50% of your system budget on the source.

madmal

Might be a cool or hip fad but it's not true that Vinyl has a better … Might be a cool or hip fad but it's not true that Vinyl has a better dynamic range, it's not possible! Infact they have to use dynamic range compression when mastering some records so that the cutter dosent bleed into the adjacent groove during loud passages. The crackles, pops and hiss (which would drive me crazy) mean that the signal to noise ratio is no where near a CD, a decent CD player will play pure silence when it's meant to, you can't say that for records.You might prefer the inferior sound for whatever reason but Vinyl cannot compete with CD or other digital formats in terms of quality.


I understand where you're coming from but mastering (how you get the audio onto whatever medium you're selling it, CD, download, vinyl) has been plagued with something called 'the loudness wars', sure, a CD has a capability of a certain dynamic range BUT it doesn't mean that full range is getting used because for the last 25 years or so the main aim is making music louder and louder until dynamic range doesn't even factor into it.
There's plenty of good articles out there that explain this stuff.

And no, I have serious issues with vinyl playback, but sometimes in some cases, yes, the vinyl whoops the backside off the totally destroyed CD masterings.

hcc27

Half the story is about dynamic range my son, dynamic range. Plus you … Half the story is about dynamic range my son, dynamic range. Plus you become a hipster overnight.


I bought vinyl from the age of 13 up till about about 23 then CD's became mainstream. I still have CD's from that era they have stood the test of time.

I recently achieved 60 so my oldest CD's have lasted a long time

A diamond tipped needle must have a detrimental effect on a piece of vinyl?

Edited by: "TheBiker" 11th Apr

​I understand that there are badly made recordings and get the whole loudness war. I generally avoid music that is badly produced and recorded, I find that some modern pop suffers from compression due to this. I guess my taste in music is bit more grown up, the genres I'm interested in are generally very well produced and recorded....and no way would they sound better on vinyl.

Music nowadays is digitally recorded, digitally mixed and then digitally mastered, so it's not like the analog vs digital argument holds up anymore. I can't help thinking the vinyl hipsters are being suckered, I even read something quite amusing recently, some vinyl releases used Cds as the master.

I'm curious about the records you say woop the equivalent CD release, please give me some titles I can go check out for myself.

Incidentally listening to music on cassette tapes now is also hip, go figure lol. Great for me as I managed to sell my old pioneer cassette deck for 150 quid on flea Bay the other week, I bought that in 1989!

We're in 2017 people, get with the times!


madmal

Might be a cool or hip fad but it's not true that Vinyl has a better … Might be a cool or hip fad but it's not true that Vinyl has a better dynamic range, it's not possible! Infact they have to use dynamic range compression when mastering some records so that the cutter dosent bleed into the adjacent groove during loud passages. The crackles, pops and hiss (which would drive me crazy) mean that the signal to noise ratio is no where near a CD, a decent CD player will play pure silence when it's meant to, you can't say that for records.You might prefer the inferior sound for whatever reason but Vinyl cannot compete with CD or other digital formats in terms of quality.



​Ha ha whatever.What if the original recording was an analogue source and mastered to CD?For me all the original master versions sound better.I have CD and vinyl and for me I'll pick vinyl every time not to be cool but because I prefer it.Im hearing sounds on recordings I've never heard before on CD due to compression.Fact is buy what you like but for me I'll buy original cuttings not re mastered digital to analogue pressings.

What if.... Give me some examples, I really doubt much gets recorded in analogue anymore. Sound engineers are not hipsters, they use digital whenever possible to preserve the original recording.

But hey ho....

As long as your vinyl sounds better to you on your acrylic upgraded platter turntable that's all that matters . Out of curiosity, in what way did the acrylic platter sound better? In my technical mind the only difference that could possibly make is alter the wow/flutter characteristics in some way.
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