proloquo2go PECS app half price for Autism Acceptance Day £94.99 @ itunes
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proloquo2go PECS app half price for Autism Acceptance Day £94.99 @ itunes

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Found 2nd Apr 2016
This is the best most configurable app out there for non-verbal communication and it's half price for Autism Acceptance Day.

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Before anyone votes this cold, compared with general apps this is well expensive, but if you're child couldn't speak or even communicate, how much time would you want a company to spend developing an app and how much would you think it was worth. I read obout a 16 year old boy who had NEVER communicated, he was given an adapted ipad with Steven Hawking type iris recognition software and camera and was able to say "hello mum" and start to communicate. That kit cost £12,000 but what would it be worth to you in their shoes. Thanks OP

no use to me but priceless for some, good find and heat from me!

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andysfast

Before anyone votes this cold, compared with general apps this is well … Before anyone votes this cold, compared with general apps this is well expensive, but if you're child couldn't speak or even communicate, how much time would you want a company to spend developing an app and how much would you think it was worth. I read obout a 16 year old boy who had NEVER communicated, he was given an adapted ipad with Steven Hawking type iris recognition software and camera and was able to say "hello mum" and start to communicate. That kit cost £12,000 but what would it be worth to you in their shoes. Thanks OP



Quite. I have a non-verbal nine year old. We've tried free apps with varying success but one of the issues with those is the standard voice. This allows the child to choose their voice which I feel is important.

Very good price. PECS is usually so expensive, and being able to use this on an ipad for non-verbal people is such a useful tool.

Today is World Autism Awareness Day, let's spread awareness, but also acceptance!



Edited by: "MLP1" 2nd Apr 2016

Might be worth looking if a grant is available to pay for iPad and/or the app.

£95 is an obscene amount to charge for something like this. It will essentially make it out of reach for some parents. It should be free. As if life isn't hard enough with an autistic child. COLD

aibon

£95 is an obscene amount to charge for something like this. It will … £95 is an obscene amount to charge for something like this. It will essentially make it out of reach for some parents. It should be free. As if life isn't hard enough with an autistic child. COLD



Whilst I disagree that it should be free (developers gotta eat) I do think that the price tag would make it out of reach for some people. Should cost considerably less.

aibon

£95 is an obscene amount to charge for something like this. It will … £95 is an obscene amount to charge for something like this. It will essentially make it out of reach for some parents. It should be free. As if life isn't hard enough with an autistic child. COLD


but there are grants available to buy things like this. It should not be free.

We bought this last year when it was half price. It's great but takes a while to set up. You can take your own pics of items and people I recommend Family Fund for a grant for an iPad if you have a child with additional needs.

wow didn't know this existed, can you trial it?

Is this app only available on IOS?

Thistleno1

Is this app only available on IOS?


Appears so, but there is this similar app on android for £67.34. Can't vouch for it as I haven't tried it, but might be useful to other non-apple owners.

Amazing app and very much worth the money!!!

aibon

£95 is an obscene amount to charge for something like this. It will … £95 is an obscene amount to charge for something like this. It will essentially make it out of reach for some parents. It should be free. As if life isn't hard enough with an autistic child. COLD


So YOU would be happy to work for months on an app and pay other people to help you and NOT get paid for it. I don't think so. Its a stupid comment. If you have an Autistic child you should get benefits and they are to help you to pay for things like this app. This app will not sell millions even if it was £1 so they have to make their money back and pay peoples wages some how. life is hard enough with an autistic child, so you should be thankful that someone has been kind enough to devote their time and money on this app and not just made another game. Thanks OP for letting us know its out there and thanks Proloquo2go for making it. Buy perhaps I'm wrong.

yubious

wow didn't know this existed, can you trial it?


Might be worth contacting the developer and asking. Sometimes you can get apps free for an honest review.

If you use a SALT (speech and language therapist) ask them about the nhs funding available now for communication aids/ software. It's fairly new and I always had to go via charities such as The Sequal Trust for communication aids and software like this but at last you can go via the nhs. Of course there are assessments but ask your SALT.

andysfast

Before anyone votes this cold, compared with general apps this is well … Before anyone votes this cold, compared with general apps this is well expensive, but if you're child couldn't speak or even communicate, how much time would you want a company to spend developing an app and how much would you think it was worth. I read obout a 16 year old boy who had NEVER communicated, he was given an adapted ipad with Steven Hawking type iris recognition software and camera and was able to say "hello mum" and start to communicate. That kit cost £12,000 but what would it be worth to you in their shoes. Thanks OP


That will be the Tobi eyegaze, amazing piece of kit, we have one where I work helping disabled people use computers. The price is crazy but it's specialist and funding is available for some people.

I work with children with complex special needs any app or computer program which unlocks a child's voice is welcome free or not.If this works for your child it's priceless,there are many avenues of funding availabe .Talk to your local support group for help in finding these.

GR2

Just because your child has had a diagnosis of ASD, do not assume this … Just because your child has had a diagnosis of ASD, do not assume this APP will help them develop or help them communicate. Rather consider whether you would want your child who may be behind in their communication abilities to form a dependency on a smart phone or tablet, whereby 90% of the time, they won't be using the app, rather spend time on it on brain draining games and repeating videos on YouTube.


Some of us who are autistic cannot speak because we cannot sufficiently control the parts of our brain which transform the intention to speak into actual spoken words. "Dependency on a smart phone or tablet" doesn't come into it.

Without an app like proloquo2go then at best we can only communicate in words by writing, which is desperately slow - and impossible if we also cannot control our hands well. I don't know your son, but I find it hard to imagine someone who is "behind in their communication abilities" becoming dependent in the long term on an app if they find they are able to develop normal speech. At the end of the day speech is so much more flexible than typing or using an app.

It is surprising how many "full-time mummies" (or even worse permutationed self-styled descriptions based on their - not Autistic but dysfunctional - children) on Facebook have Fibromyalgia, whose symptoms only appear at medical and DLA or PIP appointments. They spoil it for genuinely sick people and for people who are genuinely on the Autistic Spectrum. There, that word spectrum wasn't too hard to understand in its proper context, was it? Also: Developers (who are often on the Autistic Spectrum themselves and will have struggled to get into that job in the first place) do need to be paid for their work, and as mentioned on here, the DLA or PIP is intended to pay for the resulting adaptive technology and anything else that helps with the effects of the disability.

there's an app on android call LETMETALK. it's not much but free.

Thank you OP.

Hamsteroid

Some of us who are autistic cannot speak because we cannot sufficiently … Some of us who are autistic cannot speak because we cannot sufficiently control the parts of our brain which transform the intention to speak into actual spoken words. "Dependency on a smart phone or tablet" doesn't come into it. Without an app like proloquo2go then at best we can only communicate in words by writing, which is desperately slow - and impossible if we also cannot control our hands well. I don't know your son, but I find it hard to imagine someone who is "behind in their communication abilities" becoming dependent in the long term on an app if they find they are able to develop normal speech. At the end of the day speech is so much more flexible than typing or using an app.


I can't argue with that, as similarly I don't know you. I certainly would not discourage you or others in a similar situation to you (who have the ability to eloquently put forward a point in writing but struggles with speech) from using APPs that help you communicate.

My hope and expectation is that APPs like these start to become more accessible (free), and the likes of NAS and others do more in this area.

My point on dependency on smart phones is really targeted at kids who have been diagnosed with Autism. In my son's case, although he's recently been diagnosed and introduced to pecs. I personally feel there is more I can do as a parent in engaging with him in the traditional sense, before I consider giving him a smart device with a pecs app and potentially other apps which will potentially result in less interaction with those around him.

Yes, in many cases an instance of ASD may be neurological and non treatable, but for a large proportion of the population that have been diagnosed it's not the case; for them £95 would be better spent on something else.

I appreciate this will vary greatly by local authority, but here in Leeds a few libraries have PECS software anyone can use. You just need to pay the printing cost for any cards you print out. Laminate them at home & they'll last ages, you can even stick velcro on the back to make visual timetables etc.

aibon

£95 is an obscene amount to charge for something like this. It will … £95 is an obscene amount to charge for something like this. It will essentially make it out of reach for some parents. It should be free. As if life isn't hard enough with an autistic child. COLD



Until a government develops such an app isn't it better than a private or company has, and then offers it for sale. £95 maybe not a small sum but in the grand scheme of things it's only 1/5 of an over priced phone...

If this doesn't make sense we all will await the release of your free app; please keep us informed of progress.
Edited by: "afroylnt" 3rd Apr 2016

The truth is they charge this because they know parents are desperate to help their child communicate and will pay anything to achieve this. Regarding the developers, you can hardly describe them as purely altruistic. It has been out for 7 years and is easily the best selling AAC out there. Its about time they made it affordable for everyone.

GR2

I can't argue with that, as similarly I don't know you. I certainly would … I can't argue with that, as similarly I don't know you. I certainly would not discourage you or others in a similar situation to you (who have the ability to eloquently put forward a point in writing but struggles with speech) from using APPs that help you communicate. My hope and expectation is that APPs like these start to become more accessible (free), and the likes of NAS and others do more in this area. My point on dependency on smart phones is really targeted at kids who have been diagnosed with Autism. In my son's case, although he's recently been diagnosed and introduced to pecs. I personally feel there is more I can do as a parent in engaging with him in the traditional sense, before I consider giving him a smart device with a pecs app and potentially other apps which will potentially result in less interaction with those around him. Yes, in many cases an instance of ASD may be neurological and non treatable, but for a large proportion of the population that have been diagnosed it's not the case; for them £95 would be better spent on something else.


Autism is always neurological (by definition) and untreatable. What helps are adaptations and support, and people taking our differences and needs seriously.

If your son is unable to communicate using speech, then he deserve access to an alternative communication method as soon as possible. Please don't deprive him, and please don't try to force him to use speech if he's not ready.

Hamsteroid

Autism is always neurological (by definition) and untreatable. What helps … Autism is always neurological (by definition) and untreatable. What helps are adaptations and support, and people taking our differences and needs seriously. If your son is unable to communicate using speech, then he deserve access to an alternative communication method as soon as possible. Please don't deprive him, and please don't try to force him to use speech if he's not ready.



Hamsteroid, it's not the first time I've heard these sentiments. The 'industry' is full of professionals using 'guilt trip' phrases who attempt to play on parent's emotions to push them in making a decision that do not have the childs best interests in mind. Pushing parent's to make decisions for their child that suit the industry's/authority's quota's without addressing the 'specific' needs of a child is something that comes up again and again.

With all due respect, you're not in a position to say anything about my child. I will dismiss your choice of word 'depriving' due to your condition.

Having been through this twice, first with my eldest boy. The steps leading up to diagnosis itself consists of a multiple choice tick box exercise. The numbers get crunched. Reports are collected from school, doctors and others that have worked with the child. It is then followed up by a consultant who observes him whilst being recorded. A diagnosis is given with a HUGE disclaimer. The disclaimer is that it is a 'best guess'.

I chose not to fall into the emotional traps during the course of diagnosis and the charades by the local authorities that followed. My eldest son who is 9 years old now, who I refused to send to a specialist school (following guilt trips from the authorities) doesn't stop talking back and argues constantly. He's excelling in all areas of education and has also started learning to read, write and speak another language.

I don't regret depriving my eldest son of a smart device.

I do not want to deprive my second son of time he can potentially spend interacting with people, which would otherwise be lost on wasting time on a smart device. God know's what longer term effects these devices have on a kids health and well being.

Just seen this. What an unpleasant person you come across as. No doubt you'll ignore this too because of my "condition". Your loss. I pity your son.
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