PS4 500GB (Old Model) Reconditioned (12 month warranty) £205 @ Amazon.de
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PS4 500GB (Old Model) Reconditioned (12 month warranty) £205 @ Amazon.de

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Found 18th Oct 2015
Now I am not sure if one can class this as a good deal, but then I think as you get a 12 month warranty it is essentially the same as buying new!

The elephant in the room will be....what happens if it goes wrong.... simply, you return it to Amazon, I have done many a return to Amazon and it works the same way, except you choose the postage and they refund it after they receive it, in fact it tends to get there quicker than in this country

if you are on a budget, this could be a good deal, I am not convinced either way, but I know the 12 month warranty is a good thing
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But you get a 24 month warranty with a new one don't you?
Rhythmeister

But you get a 24 month warranty with a new one don't you?



no lol
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Rhythmeister

But you get a 24 month warranty with a new one don't you?



no, well yes, but no.... you could if you were happy to take the company to court, but in reality you are never going to do that are you?

so 12 months it is
I would highly recommend buyers to read the reviews for this item before purchasing - SHOCKING
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JellybearXo

I would highly recommend buyers to read the reviews for this item before … I would highly recommend buyers to read the reviews for this item before purchasing - SHOCKING



funny, of all the deals I see I thought this would get blasted by the ice chiller, just goes to show no matter what... price is king


Edited by: "Aeschylus" 18th Oct 2015
EU law gives consumers 24 months warranty does it not?
Rhythmeister

EU law gives consumers 24 months warranty does it not?



Sony sells Playstation as toy. So you receive 12 months.
Unbelievable. When I posted Grade A customer returns at Gem Discounts of this a few weeks ago, it went super super cold in record time. Why is a similar priced deal from Amazon for reconditioned models any better!?
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BungalowBill

Unbelievable. When I posted Grade A customer returns at Gem Discounts of … Unbelievable. When I posted Grade A customer returns at Gem Discounts of this a few weeks ago, it went super super cold in record time. Why is a similar priced deal from Amazon for reconditioned models any better!?



​im on benefits and i still bought a new one
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i payed 231 for a 1tb from amazon de
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BungalowBill

Unbelievable. When I posted Grade A customer returns at Gem Discounts of … Unbelievable. When I posted Grade A customer returns at Gem Discounts of this a few weeks ago, it went super super cold in record time. Why is a similar priced deal from Amazon for reconditioned models any better!?



I would only surmise

Gem Discounts vs Amazon.... only one winner

but dont try to figure it out, as it makes no sense anymore on here, for example my other deal, which I think is a 100% a better deal went cold

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Edited by: "Aeschylus" 19th Oct 2015
Rhythmeister

But you get a 24 month warranty with a new one don't you?



You will if you buy from John Lewis
peruhn

Sony sells Playstation as toy. So you receive 12 months.



Buy it from John Lewis and you get 2 years
divid1

http://www.videogamer.com/news/is_the_ps4_getting_a_uk_and_european_price_cut_this_week_2.html you may want to hold on a little bit.



Good find, I think i'll wait a few days
what are the difference between the new and old ?
STi_prodrive

what are the difference between the new and old ?



Energy efficiency 10%, weight -10% and looks i think thats about it
jamhops

Energy efficiency 10%, weight -10% and looks i think thats about it


And less fan noise
Tequila

And less fan noise


and +10% cheaper quality internals to cut costs albeit
peruhn

Sony sells Playstation as toy. So you receive 12 months.



they would love on that argument seeing how you can access 18+ content on it
Picked up one of these when it was around 180. 3 days delivery and no problems at all other than it didn't have the Micro USB cable for the control, a friend received one with his, only about a quid though and I bought a dock anyway.
fweddy

and +10% cheaper quality internals to cut costs albeit


that's not the true at all.
quality-wise everything is the same,changes are minor,and based on user feedback:

-slight change to internal thermal system and fans..will use a little less energy and makes less noise but will run slighly warmer.
-use of 1GB (8x) ram modules instead of 512 MBs (x16)..results in slightly less power usage
-shiny top pannel is now replaced with matt pannel due to complaints about the shinny part getting scratched,showing dust and fingerprints and marks.
-power and eject buttons are changed from touch sensitive to physical.
-the LED light bar on console is now shorter in length but brighter.

the cost saving changes usually happen when they fully redesign the console (slim and super slim) this is not the case here,these are minor improvements that's why it's not officially a new model and only geeks and hard core fans are aware.


Edited by: "Dante4KR" 19th Oct 2015
Tequila

that's not the true at all.quality-wise everything is the same,changes … that's not the true at all.quality-wise everything is the same,changes are minor,and based on user feedback:-slight change to internal thermal system and fans..will use a little less energy and makes less noise but will run slighly warmer.-use of 1GB (8x) ram modules instead of 512 MBs (x16)..results in slightly less power usage-shiny top pannel is now replaced with matt pannel due to complaints about the shinny part getting scratched,showing dust and fingerprints and marks.-power and eject buttons are changed from touch sensitive to physical.-the LED light bar on console is now shorter in length but brighter.the cost saving changes usually happen when they fully redesign the console (slim and super slim) this is not the case here,these are minor improvements that's why it's not officially a new model and only geeks and hard core fans are aware.



Almost two years into the PS4's lifecycle, Sony has updated the console … Almost two years into the PS4's lifecycle, Sony has updated the console with a substantial revision that is not only cheaper to produce, but is also quieter and considerably more power-efficient.



I think you misunderstood or I wasn't clear. 2 years ago internal parts would have been more expensive, fast forward to today and suppliers of the original parts can now make them much more cheaper.

This saving has not yet been filtered to the end consumers (us). Like mentioned previously, price cuts are coming.
fweddy

I think you misunderstood or I wasn't clear. 2 years ago internal parts … I think you misunderstood or I wasn't clear. 2 years ago internal parts would have been more expensive, fast forward to today and suppliers of the original parts can now make them much more cheaper. This saving has not yet been filtered to the end consumers (us). Like mentioned previously, price cuts are coming.


You said %10 cheaper quality parts are being used.which is not true.
parts becoming cheaper after few years is different than lower quality cheaper parts being used as you said.
they were not making any profit on hardware initially,and were aiming at profit from software and services they sell.even when parts become cheaper after 2-3 years,I doubt they make noticeable profit on hardware.it's all about software sales and services.. that's how console business works nowadays.same applies to Microsoft consoles.
Nintendo though are different and follow a different business model,they definitely aim to profit on hardware too.thats why their consoles are often lower end hardware wise.
Edited by: "Dante4KR" 19th Oct 2015
Tequila

You said %10 cheaper quality parts are being used.which is not true.parts … You said %10 cheaper quality parts are being used.which is not true.parts becoming cheaper after few years is different than lower quality cheaper parts being used as you said.they were not making any profit on hardware initially,and were aiming at profit from software and services they sell.even when parts become cheaper after 2-3 years,I doubt they make noticeable profit on hardware.it's all about software sales and services.. that's how console business works nowadays.same applies to Microsoft consoles.Nintendo though are different and follow a different business model,they definitely aim to profit on hardware too.thats why their consoles are often lower end hardware wise.



Click on the link in the quotes.

I don't have the time to teach pricing strategies and economic models to you, maybe another day.
Thanks heat added
fweddy

Click on the link in the quotes. I don't have the time to teach pricing … Click on the link in the quotes. I don't have the time to teach pricing strategies and economic models to you, maybe another day.


Don't worry about economic models and pricing strategies,just stick to basics for now.I just tried to educate you because you made silly comments and then denied it.next time think before saying something you have no idea.;)

Edited by: "Dante4KR" 19th Oct 2015
I thought all electrical good such as consoles, TVs etc had 24 months warranty! I'd best read up on that
Pay a bit more and get a new model, cold from me
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