QNAP 451+ NAS 8GB £330.72 at  BT Shop
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QNAP 451+ NAS 8GB £330.72 at BT Shop

£330.72£489 32% BT Shop Deals
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Found 1st Dec
I've never seen the 2GB version for less (2GB on Amazon is £417!) and this is the 8GB version!

They had this online a couple of days ago (I got mine then), they've just got new stock

Intel Celeron 2 GHz (Quad-Core)
RAID SATA 6Gb/s - RAID 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, JBOD, 5 hot spare
Networking10Mb LAN, 100Mb LAN, Gig
RAM 8GB
43 Comments

Better with an HP microserver for a third of the price three times more versatile and three times the power.....

Original Poster

You can pick up a HP microserver for £110? Colour me impressed. Where?

CheapoChaser9 m ago

Better with an HP microserver for a third of the price three times more …Better with an HP microserver for a third of the price three times more versatile and three times the power.....


hi there can you explain this more as im looking for something too

louloul35 s ago

hi there can you explain this more as im looking for something too


Yes me too

I've been playing with a QNAP TS-853A (this things MUCH bigger brother) at work recently and QNAP NASs really are the dog's danglies. I've been using Synology kit for years and the QNAPs blow them into the weeds. This is a very good deal, imho.

CheapoChaser15 m ago

Better with an HP microserver for a third of the price three times more …Better with an HP microserver for a third of the price three times more versatile and three times the power.....


The difference with one of these is that you get a managed OS and apps. It's nowhere near as much admin overhead to run one of these as it is to run Windows or Linux on a Microserver (which I do, by the way). These devices aren't targetted at people with the IT skills and time to administer a server, quite the opposite in fact.

There's no storage with this Gigabit Ethernet". Can someone please advise whether this is still a good deal with no storage?

WiteWulf15 m ago

I've been playing with a QNAP TS-853A (this things MUCH bigger brother) at …I've been playing with a QNAP TS-853A (this things MUCH bigger brother) at work recently and QNAP NASs really are the dog's danglies. I've been using Synology kit for years and the QNAPs blow them into the weeds. This is a very good deal, imho.


Hi, can I ask in which usage/applications you find QNAP significantly better than Synology? I'm using both but for very basic storage and streaming etc, I'm looking to get my third NAS to expand the storage but was leaning towards Synology as the iOS apps was better I think.
Edited by: "inonefly" 1st Dec

mfktemp1 m ago

There's no storage with this Gigabit Ethernet". Can someone please advise …There's no storage with this Gigabit Ethernet". Can someone please advise whether this is still a good deal with no storage?


I think it makes it a pretty terrible deal with no storage. With 8gb, it was pretty decent

rprp9 m ago

I think it makes it a pretty terrible deal with no storage. With 8gb, it …I think it makes it a pretty terrible deal with no storage. With 8gb, it was pretty decent


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I think I should not bother. Thanks for your quick reply.

inonefly11 m ago

Hi, can I ask in which usage/applications you find QNAP significantly …Hi, can I ask in which usage/applications you find QNAP significantly better than Synology? I'm using both but for very basic storage and streaming etc, I'm looking to get my third NAS to expand the storage but was leaning towards Synology as the iOS apps was better I think.


The hardware and OS monitoring is much better, there are a lot more apps available (and they appear to be kept more up to date). Virtualisation features are more advanced (the virtual switch is almost up there with full-blown vmware). My only criticism is no support for letsencrypt ssl certs rolled in that Synology has.

CheapoChaser58 m ago

Better with an HP microserver for a third of the price three times more …Better with an HP microserver for a third of the price three times more versatile and three times the power.....


I still have a HP NL54 boxed up I now have Dell with a Xenon cpu and 16gb of ram the WD blue 1tb boot drive and 3x3tb WD Reds and a external 5tb drive, I also have a 64gb Crucial ssd D drive just to extract files to until they are moved on to there right home movies or series. I have 256gb Samsung 750 that I'm replacing the 64gb drive with when I can be arsed. I'm seriously considering going back to a decent Nas as I can't be arsed with constant issues, right now I have a issue that I'm pulling my hair out with both kodi on my Shield or kodi on my fire tv cant see smb shares off either of my PCs that is my server or my gaming rig. They can if I manually add them but with browse its a no go the funny thing is though that the PCs can see each other and there shares. It's so very strange and I haven't a clue as to the cause if anyone has any ideas as to what it is I'd love to hear. All the trouble is not worth it, I was running Windows server but was to much for just file sharing so I went back to Windows 10 Pro it's in the cupboard with no monitor I control it via remote desktop either from my gaming rid or my android phone.

Op does this Nas have sickbeard or sonarr or plex and sabnzb as packages, thanks
Edited by: "polly69" 1st Dec

louloul1 h, 2 m ago

hi there can you explain this more as im looking for something too


Hi, rather a large subject but Xpenology, FreeNAS to name just two turn any server or an old PC for that matter into a NAS.
I recommend testing on an old PC as a proof of concept as it really is excellent.

richard.walton1 h, 15 m ago

You can pick up a HP microserver for £110? Colour me impressed. Where?


Not quite but £134 I paid after the £50 cashback for a gen 10 at serversdirect


Edit it appears cashback ended yesterday.

But below is a good buy if you don't mind the size

serversdirect.co.uk/p/1…ver
Edited by: "CheapoChaser" 1st Dec

polly6918 m ago

I still have a HP NL54 boxed up I now have Dell with a Xenon cpu and 16gb …I still have a HP NL54 boxed up I now have Dell with a Xenon cpu and 16gb of ram the WD blue 1tb boot drive and 3x3tb WD Reds and a external 5tb drive, I also have a 64gb Crucial ssd D drive just to extract files to until they are moved on to there right home movies or series. I have 256gb Samsung 750 that I'm replacing the 64gb drive with when I can be arsed. I'm seriously considering going back to a decent Nas as I can't be arsed with constant issues, right now I have a issue that I'm pulling my hair out with both kodi on my Shield or kodi on my fire tv cant see smb shares off either of my PCs that is my server or my gaming rig. They can if I manually add them but with browse its a no go the funny thing is though that the PCs can see each other and there shares. It's so very strange and I haven't a clue as to the cause if anyone has any ideas as to what it is I'd love to hear. All the trouble is not worth it, I was running Windows server but was to much for just file sharing so I went back to Windows 10 Pro it's in the cupboard with no monitor I control it via remote desktop either from my gaming rid or my android phone.Op does this Nas have sickbeard or sonarr or plex and sabnzb as packages, thanks


Not wanting to take away any contribution from the Op but I can confirm you should be able to cater for all that lot. Plex is most definitely an available app. Can't talk from personal experience setting it up though but these links should steer you in the right direction:


CheapoChaser20 m ago

Hi, rather a large subject but Xpenology, FreeNAS to name just two turn …Hi, rather a large subject but Xpenology, FreeNAS to name just two turn any server or an old PC for that matter into a NAS.I recommend testing on an old PC as a proof of concept as it really is excellent.


i know nas is cheaper powerwise, but what about cost when converting an old pc. what spec does mb cpu etc have to be on an old machine to use well as nas?

Original Poster

CheapoChaser33 m ago

Not quite but £134 I paid after the £50 cashback for a gen 10 at s …Not quite but £134 I paid after the £50 cashback for a gen 10 at serversdirectEdit it appears cashback ended yesterday. But below is a good buy if you don't mind the sizehttps://www.serversdirect.co.uk/p/1182461/lenovo-thinkserver-ts150-intel-pentium-g4400-8gb-3.3ghz-dvd-rw-tower-server


I guess it boils down to how much is your time worth. Everyone is different; But personally I'd rather not have to go through the process of installing linux, setting up permissions, installing applications (virtualisation, file sharing, plex, etc etc), etc.
Edited by: "richard.walton" 1st Dec

louloul22 m ago

i know nas is cheaper powerwise, but what about cost when converting an …i know nas is cheaper powerwise, but what about cost when converting an old pc. what spec does mb cpu etc have to be on an old machine to use well as nas?


having a dedicated server is great but even a little HP is going to cost a lot more to run than a Nas, i dread to think what it costs to run my Xenon server 24/7 as its never off. You have to factor all that in and then theres the time setting it up and maintaining it when soemthing goes wrong and trust me it will. Even me with18+ years of experience has issues that cant be solved, theirs that many connected devices in my house if my faults hardware it could take days to fix. I have my router and off that i have 3 switches 2 5 ports and 1 8 and a set of home plugs and all the ports are populated. I may have a heart attack trying to figure it out, back to owning a server its not really something you should have a go at unless you are pretty handy with you computer and building skills. Owning a server doesn't stop at purchase either you will need HDD and you shouldn't skimp there you will also need memory it gets expensive quickly. Watching videos on Youtube and joining sites like Hexus will help you out and you can ask questions and theres some very clever people on Hexus.

DAZZ200040 m ago

Not wanting to take away any contribution from the Op but I can confirm …Not wanting to take away any contribution from the Op but I can confirm you should be able to cater for all that lot. Plex is most definitely an available app. Can't talk from personal experience setting it up though but these links should steer you in the right direction:http://sandro.knot.org/blog/2016/01/qnap-451-sabnzbdsickbeard-setup/https://www.tweaking4all.com/home-theatre/qnap-sonarr/https://www.qnap.com/solution/plex-best-nas/en-us/



Cheers for that heads up as im very tempted as this is nearly £500 on Amazon.
Edited by: "polly69" 1st Dec

richard.walton35 m ago

I guess it boils down to how much is your time worth. Everyone is …I guess it boils down to how much is your time worth. Everyone is different; But personally I'd rather not have to go through the process of installing linux, setting up permissions, installing applications (virtualisation, file sharing, plex, etc etc), etc.


No Linux, virtualisation or permissions etc just image a USB stick and switch on.

I've just moved from my old horse N40L running WHS to the Synology 416 and was thinking why have I been so stupid with my choice for the past 4 years

Not sure about the UI of QNAP but the Synology DiskStation is so freaking cool and easy to use. And the apps it has make it one of my best purchase so far this year....

For those who says Microserver is faster and better and more powerful, you are right! But if you want a NAS to store, stream and do you daily thing, go for the Synology

CheapoChaser1 h, 21 m ago

Not quite but £134 I paid after the £50 cashback for a gen 10 at s …Not quite but £134 I paid after the £50 cashback for a gen 10 at serversdirectEdit it appears cashback ended yesterday. But below is a good buy if you don't mind the sizehttps://www.serversdirect.co.uk/p/1182461/lenovo-thinkserver-ts150-intel-pentium-g4400-8gb-3.3ghz-dvd-rw-tower-server



Yes, I've just got one of these. A ts150. It is much faster (of course) than either this Qnap or any microserver in processing power but you've got to load and operating system and media server on it. Though media servers can be loaded from a flash drive and are very small. It actually has space and sata connectors from more than four drives. Narrow than a microserver and only about 5" taller than a microserver and much more space inside to work in. Also includes a DVD reader/writer FWIW

Qnap is the best to get for first time nas users, I say that as I was one and this device is quality. Guys install Qsonarr, kodi and qtorrent and you have the best PVR for TV shows ever.
Edited by: "Shaftydude" 1st Dec

I'm a bit surprised at the number of broad statements here. There are many different uses for a server, and it is never generally a case of one size fits all.

CheapoChaser3 h, 2 m ago

Better with an HP microserver for a third of the price three times more …Better with an HP microserver for a third of the price three times more versatile and three times the power.....


I dunno. I have one but I don't use it because it's too noisy. Guessing this will be quieter. For the money yes nothing beats the hp deals but they are also the most hassle to setup and they are big and ugly too

badasschris12 m ago

I dunno. I have one but I don't use it because it's too noisy. Guessing …I dunno. I have one but I don't use it because it's too noisy. Guessing this will be quieter. For the money yes nothing beats the hp deals but they are also the most hassle to setup and they are big and ugly too


Some of the early generations were noisy but I just bought a Gen 10 and it's neither noisy, big or ugly.

Saying that I don't have it in a bedroom it's in my office and it's quiet enough.

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i will research for several months hoping for a price drop in that period! I would be buying blind if i went ahead now

richard.walton1 h, 54 m ago

I guess it boils down to how much is your time worth. Everyone is …I guess it boils down to how much is your time worth. Everyone is different; But personally I'd rather not have to go through the process of installing linux, setting up permissions, installing applications (virtualisation, file sharing, plex, etc etc), etc.


Although I do agree that if you are not a techie or just want an appliance then something like this might me ideal.
But for me the flexibility and the £200 saving makes the server ideal.

louloul14 m ago

i will research for several months hoping for a price drop in that period! …i will research for several months hoping for a price drop in that period! I would be buying blind if i went ahead now


Plenty of people to help out. Just ask!

louloul3 h, 28 m ago

hi there can you explain this more as im looking for something too


just build your own microserver
get an ITX case that can hold 4-5 HDDs (fractal core 500 goes for 40), buy a cheap ITX board that has 4-6 SATA ports (i bought one for 30 on amazon), cheap celeron CPU for 20-30 (amazon), cheap 4gb ram for 20 (ebay), and then load it with the best hard drives you can find.
CPU 20
board 30
case 40
ram 20
PSU (I had one laying around, but I'd go for a cheapie 30 quid 400W 80+gold)
4x 4TB WD Red NAS drives 90/each on a warehouse deal
total price: ~500 for 12TB RAID5 NAS (140 for hardware)

I have a microserver, a T20, and recently inherited a QNAP TS659. The QNAP really is easy to use, it's limited but it still does everything I need so it doesn't matter. I'm slowly moving services off my microserver to the qnap and will just keep the T20 and qnap once finished.

link no longer works.

I've been running various QNAP NAS's for about 10 years now. Started with a 109, then a few 2 bays. Now a 471. Throughout the years I have never had any problems with these systems. If you're in the game for a NAS look no further than this brand.
Don't forget the WD REDs to run inside.

CheapoChaser3 h, 57 m ago

Better with an HP microserver for a third of the price three times more …Better with an HP microserver for a third of the price three times more versatile and three times the power.....


And four times the power consumption as well as three times more hasstle

£785.46 now

Original Poster

The deal has done gone. Likely sold out. This happened before and it came back (likely when they got more stock) - Keep your eyes peeled!

robodan91846 m ago

just build your own microserverget an ITX case that can hold 4-5 HDDs …just build your own microserverget an ITX case that can hold 4-5 HDDs (fractal core 500 goes for 40), buy a cheap ITX board that has 4-6 SATA ports (i bought one for 30 on amazon), cheap celeron CPU for 20-30 (amazon), cheap 4gb ram for 20 (ebay), and then load it with the best hard drives you can find. CPU 20board 30case 40ram 20PSU (I had one laying around, but I'd go for a cheapie 30 quid 400W 80+gold)4x 4TB WD Red NAS drives 90/each on a warehouse dealtotal price: ~500 for 12TB RAID5 NAS (140 for hardware)


thankyou my man for this input

Bendown1 h, 33 m ago

And four times the power consumption as well as three times more hasstle


Huge exaggeration there.

It's approximately 50w which costs around 14p a day, the £200 saving will run it for 24/7 for 3.8years!
The Qnap apparently uses 35w so to get the £200 difference back you'll need to run the Qnap 24/7 for around 12.5 years.
Edited by: "CheapoChaser" 1st Dec

CheapoChaser1 h, 30 m ago

Huge exaggeration there.It's approximately 50w which costs around 14p a …Huge exaggeration there.It's approximately 50w which costs around 14p a day, the £200 saving will run it for 24/7 for 3.8years!The Qnap apparently uses 35w so to get the £200 difference back you'll need to run the Qnap 24/7 for around 12.5 years.


I think my 253A takes less than 20 watts when running, less when idle, also it has a built in timer so only active when I require it to be. mine runs at 238 watts max total per day and am happy with that. On the other hand you would need to turn the micro server on/off daily to only run for part of the day. I have been down the route of server/microserver but have found Nas to be the best option for me, put drives in and away you go. I have gone through the stage of messing about and now require things in my life to work reliably hence the nas

Bendown27 m ago

I think my 253A takes less than 20 watts when running, less when idle, …I think my 253A takes less than 20 watts when running, less when idle, also it has a built in timer so only active when I require it to be. mine runs at 238 watts max total per day and am happy with that. On the other hand you would need to turn the micro server on/off daily to only run for part of the day. I have been down the route of server/microserver but have found Nas to be the best option for me, put drives in and away you go. I have gone through the stage of messing about and now require things in my life to work reliably hence the nas


My microserver has startup timer too.

The 50w is with 4 drives in.

Each hdd consumes around 5w average for modern drives.

CheapoChaser7 m ago

My microserver has startup timer too.The 50w is with 4 drives in. Each hdd …My microserver has startup timer too.The 50w is with 4 drives in. Each hdd consumes around 5w average for modern drives.


They have each got their pluses and minuses, I have a small pc under the tv with a mini itx board in and ssd, I use that to store my music and to download then just drop my files on to the nas when finished. We all have different needs but for me I need to try and reduce electricity costs, all these things add up to a fair bill
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