Quad Core A8 PC BASE UNIT NO OPERATING SYSTEM £229.98 @ Ebuyer
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Quad Core A8 PC BASE UNIT NO OPERATING SYSTEM £229.98 @ Ebuyer

£229.98Ebuyer Deals
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Found 26th Jan 2014
You would struggle to build a quad core PC for this price, very upgradeable to make a cheap game machine

Specs

- AMD Quad Core A8-5600K
- 8GB RAM + 1TB HDD
- DVD Writer
- AMD HD 7560D
- No Operating System

- ifti

45 Comments

£15 cashback I think too

I wouldn't vote this hot, but I would consider buying one of these as it is cheap and of useful potency. But ... a point to note is they're using the A55 chipset which is I believe "optimized" for the A6 and below APU. And another point in previous higher end APU builds I have noticed Zoostorm stick in 1333mhz RAM which will again degrade the APU performance - no mention of the rating of the RAM on the Ebuyer page.

not bad but id always rather build mine as the parts in this system will mostly be s**t

3spartan

I wouldn't vote this hot, but I would consider buying one of these as it … I wouldn't vote this hot, but I would consider buying one of these as it is cheap and of useful potency. But ... a point to note is they're using the A55 chipset which is I believe "optimized" for the A6 and below APU. And another point in previous higher end APU builds I have noticed Zoostorm stick in 1333mhz RAM which will again degrade the APU performance - no mention of the rating of the RAM on the Ebuyer page.



I just bought one for friend and can confirm that memory is 1333. Pity

royals

not bad but id always rather build mine as the parts in this system will … not bad but id always rather build mine as the parts in this system will mostly be s**t



msi board and wd drive, can check exact model if interested though there is a chance of them using various parts

Banned

Does it have a high end graphics card in it?

Hot but I will build mine too

3spartan

I wouldn't vote this hot, but I would consider buying one of these as it … I wouldn't vote this hot, but I would consider buying one of these as it is cheap and of useful potency. But ... a point to note is they're using the A55 chipset which is I believe "optimized" for the A6 and below APU. And another point in previous higher end APU builds I have noticed Zoostorm stick in 1333mhz RAM which will again degrade the APU performance - no mention of the rating of the RAM on the Ebuyer page.


Can you explain what a product needs to be to earn your hot vote, if 'cheap and of useful potency(?)' isn't enough?

copthis1

Does it have a high end graphics card in it?



Absolutely no way, a high end graphics card costs more than this system alone.

heat from me

Banned

Would this be quicker than my Intel P55-UD5, i5 760@4ghz, 8gb ram?

Half tempted to sell above as a bundle, buy this and sell the case, 1tb hard drive and PSU.

Why no DVI-D or USB 3 ports? Is it SATA 3 or 2?

You have to laugh at their trade-in programme... X)

They are offering £150 trade-in for this spec... the CPU alone is worth £240

237/763 - 237/763
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Promotional Dates:
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£150.00 Trade in Reward
Edited by: "Sharpharp" 26th Jan 2014

thanks, heat added

CPU is about half as powerful as an 8 core 8320.

I think with an Intel dual core and a dedicated GPU you would get a much better gaming PC.

This one may be ok for light general work: internet, youtube, office, light gaming. But it is not really great at anything, and any Intel would be much faster for single threaded applications.

Misleading to call it a quad core when it's two Piledriver modules.

alex999

Would this be quicker than my Intel P55-UD5, i5 760@4ghz, 8gb ram?Half … Would this be quicker than my Intel P55-UD5, i5 760@4ghz, 8gb ram?Half tempted to sell above as a bundle, buy this and sell the case, 1tb hard drive and PSU.Why no DVI-D or USB 3 ports? Is it SATA 3 or 2?



No, the i5 is much better.

These things have the loudest PSUs ive personally heard in a PC. Makes my friends kitchen sound like a server room. And I'm talking idle sound. Just be aware if that could be an issue.

1333mhz memory with an APU? There's deals and then there's just cheap. This isn't upgradable at all unless you replace everything. After adding £80 for windows it isn't even that cheap. It would do a job for very basic tasks but you might as well buy laptop instead of this. most mid range laptops would be faster and they include keyboard mouse and monitor..

Original Poster

kharma45

Misleading to call it a quad core when it's two Piledriver modules. No, … Misleading to call it a quad core when it's two Piledriver modules. No, the i5 is much better.



Not so much better ,but much cheaper,Swings and roundabouts depends what your using it for
Comparisonof the two processors

You really don't want this. An APU is a CPU with graphics intergrated (better than normal CPUs ones) but in order for these to work correctly you would need the fastest memory you can get hence why APU supporting motherboards USUALLY can accept up to 2933MHz memory.

The faster the speed the better the APU will perform.

Alfresco

1333mhz memory with an APU? There's deals and then there's just cheap. … 1333mhz memory with an APU? There's deals and then there's just cheap. This isn't upgradable at all unless you replace everything. After adding £80 for windows it isn't even that cheap. It would do a job for very basic tasks but you might as well buy laptop instead of this. most mid range laptops would be faster and they include keyboard mouse and monitor..



1333 is fine with an A4, at lower resolutions.
Edited by: "3spartan" 26th Jan 2014

Original Poster

These Base units are upgradable , if you want better graphics buy a ddr5 pci express graphics card for £60 , if you want usb3 you can get a pci card for under £10 , if you want faster memory you can get 8GB HyperX DDR3 2133MHz for £80 and sell the 1333MHz memory for £20-£30 on ebay ,Windows7 with COA is available for £50 on ebay , (ok you would not want to change the motherboard or processor but that would defeat the object anyway).....it will still work out cheaper than most systems of this spec.

You get sim city with it as well for free?

Another reappearance of these

I have a couple of Zoostorms. I am very happy with them. The fans here are utterly fine, for example, but you can see that not everyone gets quiet ones.

If you want to upgrade this in the usual ways, you would be far better off getting another PC. You'll need to get a more powerful PSU for a start, and if you want Windows, you'll pay more than someone can bundle it.

But you may not have to: even without adding another SIMM (which will very noticeably speed things up due to the dual channel RAM access), this has the equivalent graphics power of a good mid-range graphics card from a couple of years ago. A surprising number of things are surprisingly playable on it.

personally. this is what i'm seeing if you buy this
youtube.com/wat…Y_U
specs aren't too great for the price ether

it's always better to build it yourself or at least getting a custom built one where you know exactly what's going into it

NESCAFE121

These Base units are upgradable , if you want better graphics buy a ddr5 … These Base units are upgradable , if you want better graphics buy a ddr5 pci express graphics card for £60 , if you want usb3 you can get a pci card for under £10 , if you want faster memory you can get 8GB HyperX DDR3 2133MHz for £80 and sell the 1333MHz memory for £20-£30 on ebay ,Windows7 with COA is available for £50 on ebay , (ok you would not want to change the motherboard or processor but that would defeat the object anyway).....it will still work out cheaper than most systems of this spec.



With another SIMM fitted, I am not sure you'd notice the difference between the integrated graphics and a £60 card. You may also need to change the PSU too.

With 1866MHz memory, memory access is 57% faster than supplied.. but most of that is down to having two SIMMs (two 1333MHz ones were 42% faster), so I am not convinced paying more for even faster memory makes sense.

Not everyone wants Windows (or needs to pay for a copy if they do).

Yep, I agree about the way to get USB3 if you need it
Edited by: "SomeUsername" 27th Jan 2014

good luck with your returns

for your info:
static.ebuyer.com/cus…nal

"9.2
Any Orders that are over 6 months old and the Product has been confirmed to be defective and a refund is due, the refund will be calculated based on the age of the Order and you will be refunded a proportionate amount of the original purchase price of the Product. This does not include the carriage cost of the original Order which will not be refunded. "


theregister.co.uk/201…ed/

with these zoostorms your better off building your own,

stopped buying these for clients over a year ago,

when 2 out of 6 when`t dead coz of cheep power supplies.

these had good components in them about 4-5 years ago when they first appeared,

but they chuck junk in them now.

NESCAFE121

These Base units are upgradable , if you want better graphics buy a ddr5 … These Base units are upgradable , if you want better graphics buy a ddr5 pci express graphics card for £60 , if you want usb3 you can get a pci card for under £10 , if you want faster memory you can get 8GB HyperX DDR3 2133MHz for £80 and sell the 1333MHz memory for £20-£30 on ebay ,Windows7 with COA is available for £50 on ebay , (ok you would not want to change the motherboard or processor but that would defeat the object anyway).....it will still work out cheaper than most systems of this spec.



forgot to add £60-70 for decent PSU to power all those upgrades

The other zoostorm is better value:

ebuyer.com/579…210 @ £169

Use the money saved to upgrade that.
Edited by: "mikerr" 27th Jan 2014

As a budget option for someone currently working with a P4 HT dell pc, looking to upgrade but does not have the budget to, would this do a decent job, bearing in mind I do not have the dosh for an all singing i7 pc ?

Or is the consensus that (as most people seem to think), that this is basically just a shiny pig in knickers, wearing sparkly lipstick, with long lashes ?


Edited by: "Chumba_Wumba" 27th Jan 2014

mikerr

The other zoostorm is better … The other zoostorm is better value:http://www.ebuyer.com/579780-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7873-1210 @ £169Use the money saved to upgrade that.



What would you upgrade ( and at what £ cost), to get that to a decent pc then, in your view please ?
How much do you reckon the whole thing would cost?

ws007

with these zoostorms your better off building your own, stopped buying … with these zoostorms your better off building your own, stopped buying these for clients over a year ago,when 2 out of 6 when`t dead coz of cheep power supplies.these had good components in them about 4-5 years ago when they first appeared,but they chuck junk in them now.



I bought a ZooStorm just under a year ago - threw a 650W PSU, a 7970 and a few new fans in it and it's been amazing. Besides a few gripes (mobo, stock HDD, case) I'm very happy with it.

NESCAFE121

Not so much better ,but much cheaper,Swings and roundabouts depends what … Not so much better ,but much cheaper,Swings and roundabouts depends what your using it forComparisonof the two processors



Those are terrible synthetic benchmarks to use, and the fella who posted has his i5 overclocked a long way too.

I hate sites like CPU World, CPU Boss and their GPU equivalents. They all use terrible metrics for performance measuring that have no real bearing.

Chumba_Wumba

As a budget option for someone currently working with a P4 HT dell pc, … As a budget option for someone currently working with a P4 HT dell pc, looking to upgrade but does not have the budget to, would this do a decent job, bearing in mind I do not have the dosh for an all singing i7 pc ?Or is the consensus that (as most people seem to think), that this is basically just a shiny pig in knickers, wiraring sparkly lipstick, with long lashes ?



What are you looking to do? If it's just basic tasks like web browsing, Word and YouTube you'd be better served with a Pentium or an i3.

kharma45

What are you looking to do? If it's just basic tasks like web browsing, … What are you looking to do? If it's just basic tasks like web browsing, Word and YouTube you'd be better served with a Pentium or an i3.



Hi Kharma, I'm looking for a machine that can handle charting and possibly a dual display (think that might be a dedicated graphics card) setup, for day trading from. Although I don't think it's as graphics intensive as some high frame rate games would require, the machine would still need to be able to seamlessly update real time tick (per second) charts.

Original Poster

ws007

forgot to add £60-70 for decent PSU to power all those upgrades




Why would you want to want to spend £60-70 on a PC of this price for £52 you could buy a Corsair CX500W assuming you want to install a graphics card , or £40 for a 430w one if not both are know for their reliability.

Corsair CP-9020047-UK Builder Series CX 500W Power Supply (PSU)

NESCAFE121

Why would you want to want to spend £60-70 on a PC of this price for £52 y … Why would you want to want to spend £60-70 on a PC of this price for £52 you could buy a Corsair CX500W assuming you want to install a graphics card , or £40 for a 430w one if not both are know for their reliability.Corsair CP-9020047-UK Builder Series CX 500W Power Supply (PSU)



point taken

This has been around this price for a while as I got it august?

perfectly capable of some stuff straight away but stuck a ddr5 7750 in it and could play most stuff at x768 mid-high (including battlefield)

then around christmas I upgraded case, blu ray drive, power supply and 7870 all for less than £200 using deals on here now it plays bf4/skyrim on highest settings 1080p at 60fps

so if youre looking to slowly upgrade this is a good deal.

Just a point to note. the motherboards sata ports are in an awkward place if you buy a long graphics card like a 7870....I had to get 2 right angle cables to use 2 and then a sata pci expansion to connect my blu ray

NESCAFE121

Why would you want to want to spend £60-70 on a PC of this price for £52 y … Why would you want to want to spend £60-70 on a PC of this price for £52 you could buy a Corsair CX500W assuming you want to install a graphics card , or £40 for a 430w one if not both are know for their reliability.Corsair CP-9020047-UK Builder Series CX 500W Power Supply (PSU)



lol they're not known for their reliability in the slightest. There are far too many DOA units to even entertain that idea. They're mediocre units being carried by the Corsair name.
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