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Raspberry Pi (Model B) - £29.46 @ element14 Farnell (expected delivery within 5 weeks.)
Raspberry Pi (Model B) - £29.46 @ element14  Farnell (expected delivery within 5 weeks.)

Raspberry Pi (Model B) - £29.46 @ element14 Farnell (expected delivery within 5 weeks.)

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Thanks for editing the title

Are individuals still buying these and putting them on ebay (at inflated prices) for those too impatient to wait? I've got a couple of them, set up just by following the online "idiot's guides". Accessed in a window on my main Windows PC (using VNC Viewer), they are ideal for those, typically relatively simple, tasks that need a computer running 24x7, as they use so little electricity. That's the real reason for buying one - they pay for themselves. You will need to factor in buying a power supply rated at 5v 1A or more (there have been problems with power supplies, a typical USB-out charger won't do the job) - I'd suggest adding one to the order....

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Grrrrrrrrrrr

Are individuals still buying these and putting them on ebay (at inflated … Are individuals still buying these and putting them on ebay (at inflated prices) for those too impatient to wait? I've got a couple of them, set up just by following the online "idiot's guides". Accessed in a window on my main Windows PC (using VNC Viewer), they are ideal for those, typically relatively simple, tasks that need a computer running 24x7, as they use so little electricity. That's the real reason for buying one - they pay for themselves. You will need to factor in buying a power supply rated at 5v 1A or more (there have been problems with power supplies, a typical USB-out charger won't do the job) - I'd suggest adding one to the order....



Thanks for that, now I know what software to use.

Banned

Ordered - been wanting to get my hands on on of these for ages!

RRP this, non deal.

I wonder how many of these will be bought by folk that don't know what to do with them, nor willing to find out.

Ordered mine afew weeks ago. Just waiting for delivery now

You can load XBMC on the Pi now so it will make very good and cheap media stremer.

Mine ordered cant wait wooooohoooooooo

Cenobite

I wonder how many of these will be bought by folk that don't know what to … I wonder how many of these will be bought by folk that don't know what to do with them, nor willing to find out.

Almost all of them. The pattern seems to be:
Enthuse greatly about "a computer for 25 dollars!!! OMG!!!"
Wait impatiently for product to arrive
Complain bitterly about long delivery waits
Boast when it does arrive, write boring and unoriginal blogs about how great it is
Go into denial when someone knowledgeable tells you there are better, more functional alternatives for about the same price (and without the wait)
Download a Linux distro, spend days trying to get it to work
Pack RPi up and put in cupboard
Rediscover it in a couple of years, thrink "what's this piece of old junk?" and toss it out

vincenth

You can load XBMC on the Pi now so it will make very good and cheap media … You can load XBMC on the Pi now so it will make very good and cheap media stremer.


Just be aware there is no mpeg2 codec which prevents playback of recorded freeview TV for example without transcoding. Not a show stopper but it limits the flexibility as a media centre. It is only £35 though so it's still a bargain

Mine came last week so my son (13) and I had a play with it this weekend. It was really cool to see him writing (and then iteratively refining) simple games in scratch - took me right back to my own adolescence.

Even the simpler things like planning your own case build are fun and engaging - my 9 year old daughter is now also showing an interest and it's her big brother who's showing her the ropes rather than me.

Simply checking Raspberry Pi Homepage shows it's freely available and you can order as many as you want raspberrypi.org/ .

New OS expect imminently that will utilise the the hardware fully "Raspbian, the hard-float optimised port of the Debian operating system for the Raspberry P. Raspbian makes use of the floating-point hardware in the processor at the heart of the Raspberry Pi, an optimisation that we hadn’t been able to take advantage of in our previous soft-float Debian Squeeze and Wheezy releases.

Raspbian is so much faster than the images we’ve been using so far, and we’re really excited about it; we’ll be encouraging all of you Raspberry Pi owners to upgrade to it as soon as it’s available on our downloads page."

Also looking at the Forum shows how to overclock the CPU and RAM and overvolt as well if you wish - to make this very very fast.

Superb user support from many many people who really understand the project.

Edited by: "dms05" 16th Jul 2012

Managed to get one of the first ones, put Debian on it, put it back in the box and it's been there since.

Will be useful when XBMC is running with full codec support but for most people they won't find a Pi particularly useful.

It's like most things, until there's a big dev community then uses are limited.

Didn't realise that Raspbian was available/on its way
Thanks, dms05

Will it run Crysis?

Go! Go! Go!

welded mine into zx81 case and solved some VERY important theoretical problems, then sold on ebay for £1.50

pete_l

Almost all of them. The pattern seems to be:Enthuse greatly about "a … Almost all of them. The pattern seems to be:Enthuse greatly about "a computer for 25 dollars!!! OMG!!!" Wait impatiently for product to arriveComplain bitterly about long delivery waitsBoast when it does arrive, write boring and unoriginal blogs about how great it isGo into denial when someone knowledgeable tells you there are better, more functional alternatives for about the same price (and without the wait)Download a Linux distro, spend days trying to get it to workPack RPi up and put in cupboardRediscover it in a couple of years, thrink "what's this piece of old junk?" and toss it out



this is so true.

then there are the ones that swear on their mum that it plays 1080p movies (good bitrate ones!) without stutter... cough... lol..

oh but but there are more codecs out or coming out or its nearly out of beta, etc etc.....

just buy a cyclone micro or something if its a media centre you want ffs lol

I still don't understand the hype behind this product. Isn't it easier / cheaper to install a Virtual Machine on your existing computer and dabble with Linux?

I was considering getting one for XBMC, from from initial looks into the user forums, it looks like it won't run it properly. AirPlay and Netflix are not currently supported.
Edited by: "Gazzie" 16th Jul 2012

What are these exactly, and what do they do? Thanks.

pete_l

Go into denial when someone knowledgeable tells you there are better, … Go into denial when someone knowledgeable tells you there are better, more functional alternatives for about the same price (and without the wait)



Such as?

Poor support, cheaply produced from China. When you factor in in the cost of psu and sd-card, costs about the same as others.

dms05

Also looking at the Forum shows how to overclock the CPU and RAM and … Also looking at the Forum shows how to overclock the CPU and RAM and overvolt as well if you wish - to make this very very fast.



It makes it faster, not very very fast. Power consumption much much higher though is the price you pay.

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Gazzie

I still don't understand the hype behind this product. Isn't it easier / … I still don't understand the hype behind this product. Isn't it easier / cheaper to install a Virtual Machine on your existing computer and dabble with Linux?I was considering getting one for XBMC, from from initial looks into the user forums, it looks like it won't run it properly. AirPlay and Netflix are not currently supported.



Yup XBMC is clunky and slow.

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good for a low power linux server, but hard to recommend for anything else. its just too darn slow to handle a gui desktop environment, including xbmc.

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Gollywood

What are these exactly, and what do they do? Thanks.




cheap slow linux computer. most people think they are holy grail of media streamers. and some how can be used to teach kids programming....

Grrrrrrrrrrr

Are individuals still buying these and putting them on ebay (at inflated … Are individuals still buying these and putting them on ebay (at inflated prices) for those too impatient to wait? I've got a couple of them, set up just by following the online "idiot's guides". Accessed in a window on my main Windows PC (using VNC Viewer), they are ideal for those, typically relatively simple, tasks that need a computer running 24x7, as they use so little electricity. That's the real reason for buying one - they pay for themselves. You will need to factor in buying a power supply rated at 5v 1A or more (there have been problems with power supplies, a typical USB-out charger won't do the job) - I'd suggest adding one to the order....



A Blackberry charger works perfectly for this (correct voltage & current!)

DudeyGeeza

then there are the ones that swear on their mum that it plays 1080p … then there are the ones that swear on their mum that it plays 1080p movies (good bitrate ones!) without stutter... cough... lol..


It does, but only on certain builds over nfs, it is by no means stable.

The problem is that the xbmc version openelec uses is bleeding edge, it is not unusual for daily builds to be totally broken, best to find a build that works for you then stick with it. For me its a barebones media player, strapped to the vesa mount powered from the tv usb, just a basic frontend to the NAS, which is just what i wanted.

Ahhhhh the power of a little internet hype.

coolfi

Poor support, cheaply produced from China. When you factor in in the … Poor support, cheaply produced from China. When you factor in in the cost of psu and sd-card, costs about the same as others.



Poor support? The consequence of these things getting insane hype is theres a ton of support out there. Theres a million and one tutorial videos on youtube alone.

Cheaply produced? Thats the whole idea of the hardware.

From China? You do realise that even the most high end 3k laptops are built in China. To say anything is bad because it is built in China is pretty silly these days.

vincenth

You can load XBMC on the Pi now so it will make very good and cheap media … You can load XBMC on the Pi now so it will make very good and cheap media stremer.



Strictly speaking I would consider it a very limited, quite crappy media player.

You can get an Opad m88 for £39 which has a screen and case built in plus battery and faster processor , more ram...

pagga

Such as?

Such as all the ones that Google throws up when you search for low cost arm boards.

Banned

But will it blend?

pete_l

Almost all of them. The pattern seems to be:Enthuse greatly about "a … Almost all of them. The pattern seems to be:Enthuse greatly about "a computer for 25 dollars!!! OMG!!!" Wait impatiently for product to arriveComplain bitterly about long delivery waitsBoast when it does arrive, write boring and unoriginal blogs about how great it isGo into denial when someone knowledgeable tells you there are better, more functional alternatives for about the same price (and without the wait)Download a Linux distro, spend days trying to get it to workPack RPi up and put in cupboardRediscover it in a couple of years, thrink "what's this piece of old junk?" and toss it out



You patronising ill informed ****

Grrrrrrrrrrr

Are individuals still buying these and putting them on ebay (at inflated … Are individuals still buying these and putting them on ebay (at inflated prices) for those too impatient to wait? I've got a couple of them, set up just by following the online "idiot's guides". Accessed in a window on my main Windows PC (using VNC Viewer), they are ideal for those, typically relatively simple, tasks that need a computer running 24x7, as they use so little electricity. That's the real reason for buying one - they pay for themselves. You will need to factor in buying a power supply rated at 5v 1A or more (there have been problems with power supplies, a typical USB-out charger won't do the job) - I'd suggest adding one to the order....


I connected a Raspberry Pi to my BT home hub. I used a micro USB cable to provide power and a short ethernet cable to provide comms. The BT home hub provided sufficient power to run the Pi. The Pi was easilly accessable via a Linux PC on my home network.

Gah, I ordered, then realised that I should have gone through topcashback first, as they’re on there, too. Don’t make my mistake.

pete_l

Such as all the ones that Google throws up when you search for low cost … Such as all the ones that Google throws up when you search for low cost arm boards.



Well, I'm specifically looking for a device which can function as a versatile HD media player/streamer. I've read mixed reports on the Pi's performance with XBMC so I was wondering if there are any alternatives around the same price-point.

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belovedmonster

Poor support? The consequence of these things getting insane hype is … Poor support? The consequence of these things getting insane hype is theres a ton of support out there. Theres a million and one tutorial videos on youtube alone.Cheaply produced? Thats the whole idea of the hardware. From China? You do realise that even the most high end 3k laptops are built in China. To say anything is bad because it is built in China is pretty silly these days.



lol.
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