Red Dwarf X (Blu-ray) £9 @ Amazon.co.uk
289°Expired

Red Dwarf X (Blu-ray) £9 @ Amazon.co.uk

26
Found 7th Jul 2013
Red Dwarf X - Blu-Ray for £9!

Space battles, quantum entanglement, and love triangles with snack dispensers, are just some of the problems facing the boys as they return on the small rouge one.

Packed with over 150 minutes of extras including an exclusive making-of documentary, deleted scenes and a brand-spanking-new collection of ‘Smeg Ups’.

26 Comments

Better than series 7 and 8, still in no hurry to buy this.

PhilK

Better than series 7 and 8



That's like saying a solid turd is better than Diarrhoea. In the last three series and the special I think there have been about three funny jokes

1: The future of plumbing
2: French movie star
3: Cant think of another one, but there had to be another one.

They should have left it at the end of series six then one of the two writers left (turned out it was the good one, Rob Grant)

Up until the end of series six, for me, this is the funniest comedy ever made.

Edited by: "dijital" 7th Jul 2013

Original Poster

The first six series are certainly the best (series two being my absolute fave) . Agree completely that Rob Grant was the funny one.
That said, as time has gone on, I'm happy to have seen the further adventures of Red Dwarf than not at all.

Captain_James

The first six series are certainly the best (series two being my absolute … The first six series are certainly the best (series two being my absolute fave) . Agree completely that Rob Grant was the funny one.That said, as time has gone on, I'm happy to have seen the further adventures of Red Dwarf than not at all.



http://s2.b3ta.com/host/creative/93399/1364560832/acewins.png

dijital

That's like saying a solid turd is better than Diarrhoea.Up until the end … That's like saying a solid turd is better than Diarrhoea.Up until the end of series six, for me, this is the funniest comedy ever made.


I agree it's far less fluid without Grant. There was still "funny jokes" in 7 and 8 AND this one, but the stories were poor. MUCH better in this one, but the "acting" wasn't good, like 7 and 8.
Harsh to say it was as bad as you say.That said, like I say - I'm not rushing out to buy this though

Captain_James

The first six series are certainly the best (series two being my absolute … The first six series are certainly the best (series two being my absolute fave) . Agree completely that Rob Grant was the funny one.That said, as time has gone on, I'm happy to have seen the further adventures of Red Dwarf than not at all.


Now THIS is precisely my viewpoint.
Naylor was the funny one, Grant the organizer and story teller.
Grant's "Backwards" book was far superior to Naylor's "Last Human" yet there was more good ideas in Naylors work. FAR more.
Naylor's obsession with putting a damn woman in the show SPOILT the whole show and was apparently the cause of friction between them Grant WAS right Naylor was massively wrong. But he did 2 dreadful series proving to everyone how wrong he was. Penny FINALLY dropped this series, and as a result it improved. Still not enough.
BUT I still want more series as long as they don't bring whatsername back.

PhilK

Now THIS is precisely my viewpoint.Naylor was the funny one, Grant the … Now THIS is precisely my viewpoint.Naylor was the funny one, Grant the organizer and story teller.Grant's "Backwards" book was far superior to Naylor's "Last Human" yet there was more good ideas in Naylors work. FAR more.Naylor's obsession with putting a damn woman in the show SPOILT the whole show and was apparently the cause of friction between them Grant WAS right Naylor was massively wrong. But he did 2 dreadful series proving to everyone how wrong he was. Penny FINALLY dropped this series, and as a result it improved. Still not enough.BUT I still want more series as long as they don't bring whatsername back.




Hmm.. then Naylor went on to Destroy Rimmer's back story by making him adopted and his (now) step brother worse than he was. Also 'Every Rimmer becomes an Ace', what a load of ****.

Edited by: "dijital" 7th Jul 2013

dijital

Hmm.. then Naylor went on to Destroy Rimmer's back story by making him … Hmm.. then Naylor went on to Destroy Rimmer's back story by making him adopted and his (now) step brother worse than he was. Also 'Every Rimmer becomes an Ace', what a load of ****.


Yep. But the main bone of contention between Naylor and Grant was Naylors obsession with bringing back Kochanski and screwing up the whole idea of "Last Human" but still referring to it. Utter idiocy, all for a few "knickers" jokes. Which is what irritated Grant.
Yes, Naylor made an absolute mess out of pretty much everything in series 7 and 8. Ruined the whole backstory as you put it.
BUT there was some good lines, some good ideas which if Grant had've been around to WRITE the story and leaving out bloody Kochanski, thjey'd have been great stories.
Oh, and the unlimited Ace Rimmer thing, while I agree - is just part of the Multiverse idea very common in Sci-Fi writing for the past dozen or so years

But the Multiverse theory is that every universe is different, Naylor's theory is 'in every universe Rimmer turns out the same'.

The backbone of red dwarf for me is Rimmer, his neuroses and why he is so neurotic. Now for some reason he is a 'Working class hero'

One thing about series 8 was how consitent it was with earlier series. Oh and the third good joke was 'Have a good period'.

Backwards is the only one of the books i have not read more than once. I'll tale 'Legs' the sumilant over dolochimps
Edited by: "dijital" 7th Jul 2013

If I don't buy this I wonder if Dave might re-run it?

stillploppy2003

If I don't buy this I wonder if Dave might re-run it?



It's not like Dave to repeat things.

Original Poster

'Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers', 'Better Than life' (my all time favourite tv episode) and 'Backwards' were very funny books.
'The Last human', very much less so.


Edited by: "Captain_James" 7th Jul 2013

there are only six series of red dwarf as far as i am concerned. shame grant/naylor couldn't wrap it up with a few specials after series 6. it was greed in the end on naylor's part. series 7 and 8 were eight episodes long (albeit in a very clumsy way) rather than the previous six. this took the total episodes to 52, the number for syndication around the world, in the US in particular (i.e. one per week)

once the syndication total had been reached there was no hurry to make any more, hence the huge gap from series 8 to back to earth

dijital

That's like saying a solid turd is better than Diarrhoea. In the last … That's like saying a solid turd is better than Diarrhoea. In the last three series and the special I think there have been about three funny jokes1: The future of plumbing2: French movie star3: Cant think of another one, but there had to be another one.They should have left it at the end of series six then one of the two writers left (turned out it was the good one, Rob Grant)Up until the end of series six, for me, this is the funniest comedy ever made.



Agreed! this dave crap shouldn't of been made its a shame to call it red dwarf tbh

stillploppy2003

If I don't buy this I wonder if Dave might re-run it?



They're showing it at the moment, Thursdays at 9pm.

I think series 7 and 8 come in for a lot of flak, simply because they're not as good as the first six series. I've never been convinced they're as bad as people like to make out- they just simply weren't up to the high standard that Red Dwarf fans were used to and, quite rightly, expected. 'Krytie TV' for instance, wasn't an entirely dreadful episode. Thing is, if they had to have Kochanski, I'd have much rather they'd gotten Claire Grogan involved. Chloe Annete (however you spell it) really didn't suit the part that had already been established in the early series.

Back to Earth however? That I absolutely hated, apart from the part where Lister was mourning Kochanski.
Edited by: "cookiemonster83" 7th Jul 2013

Shame UK television Blu-Rays are only 1080i.

PhilK

turns out the same'.

No it's not. Multiverse theory is that every idea is played out. Therefore, you'll see MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of Ace Rimmer in various guises. And you DON'T see the uncountable Rimmers who don't end up becoming Rimmer.
And, because they didn't end up becoming Rimmer, they therefore aren't there.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KsmVCmlFV5M/UHhZRQmWaUI/AAAAAAAAHKY/CqfO8Kwq6mg/s1600/tumblr_mbqgp8Bode1qbzm56o7_1280.jpg

Soooo..... Are chinese whispers racist??? X)
Edited by: "djjinx1" 7th Jul 2013

PhilK

No it's not. Multiverse theory is that every idea is played out. … No it's not. Multiverse theory is that every idea is played out. Therefore, you'll see MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of Ace Rimmer in various guises. And you DON'T see the uncountable Rimmers who don't end up becoming Rimmer. And, because they didn't end up becoming Rimmer, they therefore aren't there.



Did you just argue with yourself there? How very Red Dwarf.

fishmaster

Did you just argue with yourself there? How very Red Dwarf.


No, I believe the person I was discussing this with realized he wasn't correct and removed his comment. And perhaps a bit of bad editing by me (Can't see it with a quick look) But I see you're point about typically Red Dwarf - Kryten-esque, almost

PhilK

No, I believe the person I was discussing this with realized he wasn't … No, I believe the person I was discussing this with realized he wasn't correct and removed his comment. And perhaps a bit of bad editing by me (Can't see it with a quick look) But I see you're point about typically Red Dwarf - Kryten-esque, almost



My comment is still there mate. 'we all start off as caterpillars and end up as butterflies'

But this is Red Dwarf, while I frikken loved it (when it was good), its hardly worth getting in to a tizz about it. Also, I made that picture posted above, feel free to distribute it lol.

Also the reason the girl (Kochanski) was bought in was because, when Doug Naylor was pitching for the movie all the studios said it wouldn't work without a love interest so, Doug Naylor added her to promote the movie. Also the three parter in series 8 was to prove the could make a 90 minute plus script.


Edited by: "dijital" 8th Jul 2013

Who cares what any random person thinks about each series. It's £10.25 now though, so the deal is expired.

dijital

My comment is still there mate. 'we all start off as caterpillars and end … My comment is still there mate. 'we all start off as caterpillars and end up as butterflies' But this is Red Dwarf, while I frikken loved it (when it was good), its hardly worth getting in to a tizz about it. Also, I made that picture posted above, feel free to distribute it lol.Also the reason the girl (Kochanski) was bought in was because, when Doug Naylor was pitching for the movie all the studios said it wouldn't work without a love interest so, Doug Naylor added her to promote the movie. Also the three parter in series 8 was to prove the could make a 90 minute plus script.


Bit late at night and couldn't be bothered to look too hard ! Hardly matters. My bad editing was the main point I think.
First Ive heard about Kochanski, film studios needing love interest.
In fact I remember at the time ALL with the info Kochanski wasn't mentioned at all. Maybe Naylor dreamt it up to explain his obsession with KK ?
On the series subject though, seems we disagree on degree of agreeing - we both believe its been tripe since 6, but only the level of tripeness.I think there are saving graces, 10 was nowhere near as bad as you reckon, the "Back to Earth" one even had one or two ideas, just cringe makingly badly done and performed, as bad as 7 and 8. The idea of Craig Charles meeting Dave Lister should have worked (classic Sci Fi ideas again) but it didn't. I wanted series 10 but was expecting more dross like series 7. It was actually not bad at all. Even my mate who wasn't even going to bother watching it enjoyed it. His girlfriend has totally given up on it and still won't.
I was pleasantly surprised. But the acting is too much played for weak laughs rather than playing out a story - with amusing lines, and back and forths - which is how the original 6 series were as good, Some of the problem is the directing too - does Naylor still do it ?

Original Poster

PhilK

10 was nowhere near as bad as you reckon



Agree completely. Series ten was a surprise and as you say, Naylor may have made an attempt to try and recapture some of what made the earlier series so good.

Naylor directed, wrote and produced series ten and from what I read, it was a bit too much. He's currently writing series eleven and the actors have said that they plan to film with a 2014 air date. It used to be Ed Bye directing I think. Maybe they should give him a call and just let Naylor concentrate on writing duties?

Ed Bye - yeah. Did RD up til series 5 or 6 I think.
He WOULD put it right I think
The main problem is no Rob Grant though.
Grant was the storyline and situations, Naylor the jokes and humour.
Too little storyline, and the whole things ruined.

Sarah7

Who cares what any random person thinks about each series. It's £10.25 … Who cares what any random person thinks about each series. It's £10.25 now though, so the deal is expired.

You don't - but who cares what YOU think ?
Post a comment
Avatar
@
    Text