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Refurbished Lenovo Thinkpad X250 Core i5-5200U, 8GB Ram, 180GB SSD, Windows 10 Laptop £118.39 @ eBay / newandusedlaptops4u
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Refurbished Lenovo Thinkpad X250 Core i5-5200U, 8GB Ram, 180GB SSD, Windows 10 Laptop £118.39 @ eBay / newandusedlaptops4u

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Quality: Grade 2 (click link above) Cracks in palm. Minor blemished screen. Worn/scratched lid & palm.

Processor: Intel Core i5-5200U 2.20GHz

Processor Generation: 5th Generation

Memory: 8GB DDR3

Hard Drive: 180GB SSD

Screen Size: 12.5" Widescreen. 1366 x 768

CD Drive: None

Operating System: Windows 10 64 Bit

Battery: Minimum 2 hours standby

Graphics Card: Intel HD Graphics 5500

AC Adapter: Included

WiFi: Yes

Network: Internal

USB Ports: 2

Various: DisplayPort, Webcam, SD Card Reader

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Interesting to note they have slightly different images (Photoshopped/cropped/backgrounds removed) on their listing now, but please be aware of them..for some may miss them as the initial images look okay.
Previous thread here
(one member stated he got a passive aggressive PM from the seller when he complained on here, but you're allowed to give honest feedback, surely?)
Another member was happy with what he received, so it's a crapshoot, as they say.

The thread above has had further comments since I last looked, suggesting that the ebay seller is at pains to get rid of Negative or Neutral Feedback.

ebay should really sort their Feedback system out, it's woefully inadequate and outdated.

At least with Amazon you get a feel for over-enthusiastic or broken English reviews, or even a buyer with a grudge, and you're (usually) able to judge for yourself. That, and, of course, you're able to leave much more detailed reviews and pictures on Amazon. And their CS is much, much better.
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Edited by: "louiselouise" 24th Sep
I feel items like this make a mockery of the word “refurbished”, in fact I would say calling this “refurbished” is a lie.

it’s simply a USED and clearly abused laptop that someone is reselling.

nothing against this deal, it seams a fair price even if it does have cosmetic damage.

its just in my industry ( Industrial Engineering ) refurbished means a item has been stripped, components replaced, tested and is as good as new
Refurbished from landfill
youchoose
14/09/2019 17:26
To be honest I think the seller has posted pictures of the worse case scenario, as the amount they have sold. . I doubt they will all be as bad as the one in the picture.His feedback is too good to risk it.


I'm sure the OP meant well (on the other thread) but the bit that grates with me is "His Feedback is too good to risk it" which is proven to be a lie. I suspect the seller was tipped off, hence the PM to a HUKD member who complained on there, but that's just a suspicion.

There is a reason why the Feedback is so good, they are scrupulous about getting Negs/Neutrals deleted if they can.

I'm not sure of ebay's stance if there are a deluge of complaints or an item is misrepresented. After all, the photos are there (albeit buried in the image gallery - not the main picture). Knowing how people are on the internet, some will NOT look through them all.

This should actually be "Spares And Repairs" or "Working, With Cosmetic Defects" - not "Refurbished". Refurbished to me means, made sellable - be it cosmetically or minor repairs made so it's as new, or at least, in good condition. Not laptops that look as though they've been pulled out of a skip! There's no way that is "Refurbished" - no wonder the term is so vague and so abused nowadays.

At the very least, the main photo should be representative of what you should expect and the likely condition of the laptop should be explained much better in the description. ebay listings should be, one click and all the info is in front of you - not having to read around and research - that in itself is a red flag.

Are the seller's real-world pictures worst case scenario, or best? This listing badly needs much more detailed reviews (and no deletions!) and photos from purchasers.

Also:38534176-5ohxd.jpgSo, experiences of this seller discussed on an online forum - and using photos from a seller's ebay listing, are "scaremongering" now? Okay, then...

As a prospective buyer, both ebay and the seller are at fault here. I'm sure there's loads of examples of this happening. This is not scaremongering, it's an opinion.

A business is judged by how they treat their customers, how they represent their stock, and even more crucially, how they deal with criticism. I think I'll draw my own conclusions.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 24th Sep
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Interesting to note they have slightly different images (Photoshopped/cropped/backgrounds removed) on their listing now, but please be aware of them..for some may miss them as the initial images look okay.
Previous thread here
(one member stated he got a passive aggressive PM from the seller when he complained on here, but you're allowed to give honest feedback, surely?)
Another member was happy with what he received, so it's a crapshoot, as they say.

The thread above has had further comments since I last looked, suggesting that the ebay seller is at pains to get rid of Negative or Neutral Feedback.

ebay should really sort their Feedback system out, it's woefully inadequate and outdated.

At least with Amazon you get a feel for over-enthusiastic or broken English reviews, or even a buyer with a grudge, and you're (usually) able to judge for yourself. That, and, of course, you're able to leave much more detailed reviews and pictures on Amazon. And their CS is much, much better.
38532284-lKssG.jpg38532284-g2KyK.jpg38532284-ospNI.jpg38532284-aqIwm.jpg
Edited by: "louiselouise" 24th Sep
How much is a new screen?
Could I use these components to build a mini pc? Like use them in a hp prodesk mini case?
the_giant24/09/2019 06:36

Could I use these components to build a mini pc? Like use them in a hp …Could I use these components to build a mini pc? Like use them in a hp prodesk mini case?


Yes
the_giant24/09/2019 06:36

Could I use these components to build a mini pc? Like use them in a hp …Could I use these components to build a mini pc? Like use them in a hp prodesk mini case?


Short answer no.

Long answer is you'd have to teardown the laptop then take a long hard look at the case vs the motherboard. Does it even fit? Does it have mounting holes that line up with your case's mounting points? Likely not, so you'll need to create an adapter plate. Where are its ports and do they line up with any holes in the case? If not, it's case cutting time or time to get a lot of short extension cables to use internally. Take a look at the cooling solution, it's likely a lot of metal mounted to the CPU then held in place by the laptop case, so you'll need to make a custom mount for it to relieve strain from the CPU socket area.

I wouldn't bother when you could pick up a pico ITX board and start from there.
CampGareth24/09/2019 07:16

Short answer no. Long answer is you'd have to teardown the laptop then …Short answer no. Long answer is you'd have to teardown the laptop then take a long hard look at the case vs the motherboard. Does it even fit? Does it have mounting holes that line up with your case's mounting points? Likely not, so you'll need to create an adapter plate. Where are its ports and do they line up with any holes in the case? If not, it's case cutting time or time to get a lot of short extension cables to use internally. Take a look at the cooling solution, it's likely a lot of metal mounted to the CPU then held in place by the laptop case, so you'll need to make a custom mount for it to relieve strain from the CPU socket area.I wouldn't bother when you could pick up a pico ITX board and start from there.


Thank you for the comprehensive answer!
Listed as "seller refurbished" and described as grade 2? Looking at some of the examples in the pictures, Although cheap, I personally wouldn't take the risk on receiving a beaten up one.
louiselouise24/09/2019 01:10

ebay should really sort their Feedback system out, it's woefully …ebay should really sort their Feedback system out, it's woefully inadequate and outdated.


Yes, the character limit for feedback is ridiculously low.
It's almost as if they don't want customers to be informed about bad merchants, fakes, or general bad quality and service at all.

Grade B? Those images look to me to be Grade C or worse!
Edited by: "Gkains" 24th Sep
Itzoo has a similar price, 119 for grade B
Edited by: "Racky" 24th Sep
Refurbished from landfill
£118 for an x250 appears enticing, then you see the dog-rough photo's and run a mile!
I feel items like this make a mockery of the word “refurbished”, in fact I would say calling this “refurbished” is a lie.

it’s simply a USED and clearly abused laptop that someone is reselling.

nothing against this deal, it seams a fair price even if it does have cosmetic damage.

its just in my industry ( Industrial Engineering ) refurbished means a item has been stripped, components replaced, tested and is as good as new
louiselouise24/09/2019 01:10

Interesting to note they have slightly different images …Interesting to note they have slightly different images (Photoshopped/cropped/backgrounds removed) on their listing now, but please be aware of them..for some may miss them as the initial images look okay. Previous thread here(one member stated he got a passive aggressive PM from the seller when he complained on here, but you're allowed to give honest feedback, surely?)Another member was happy with what he received, so it's a crapshoot, as they say.The thread above has had further comments since I last looked, suggesting that the ebay seller is at pains to get rid of Negative or Neutral Feedback.ebay should really sort their Feedback system out, it's woefully inadequate and outdated.At least with Amazon you get a feel for over-enthusiastic or broken English reviews, or even a buyer with a grudge, and you're (usually) able to judge for yourself. That, and, of course, you're able to leave much more detailed reviews and pictures on Amazon. And their CS is much, much better.[Image] [Image] [Image] [Image]


"eBay should really sort their Feedback system out, it's woefully inadequate and outdated"

inadequate fer sure, as in a seller can ONLY give POSITIVE feedback, or no feedback, and obviously no feedback is as good as positive if you think about it. I think it's been eBay BS policy fer years, possibly since 2008?

But the REAL joke is?
We (in the UK) now need to understand that as of last week (so mid september) we (as bidders/potential bidders) can NO LONGER check if a bidder in that auction has a history of bidding with the seller in question, OR a habit of retracting bids.

Oh you can still "click" on the bids made in an auction 2b taken to the BID HISTORY of that auction, and see the list of bidders...in encrypted form BUT you can NO LONGER "click" on a "name", to be taken to THAT bidders BID HISTORY ID page...in the UK, because eBay has blocked this option, to protect? I think it's to protect scammers & eBay's profits...it's 10% cut, known (in HONEST auctions) as the final value fee, but when protecting scammers?, it becomes the proceeds of crime.

Oh, BTW
The ability to access a bidders Bid History ID (from an auctions Bid History) is STILL (currently) open on other eBay sites, ebay.com (so in the U.S) for example.

Could it be a case of eBay thinking...Don't on your own doorstep (the U.S market...first) when you can do it somewhere else, and see how it pans out?

Racky24/09/2019 08:09

Itzoo has a similar price, 119 for grade B


Where? I can only see 160quid
Edited by: "jewpons" 24th Sep
Racky24/09/2019 09:37

https://itzoo.co.uk/collections/bargains/products/lenovo-thinkpad-x250-laptop-i5-2-3ghz-128gb-ssd-windows-15


Lovely, thanka mate. Think I'll order from them as they're fairly reputable
If those are the best pictures they could manage they really should try harder! The last image with heavily worn touchpad shows gunk on keyboard and what looks like a coffee cup ring.

Good specs in theory but terrible terrible condition, like said above, the word refurbished is so misused these days!
Edited by: "spannerzone" 24th Sep
Gkains24/09/2019 07:53

Yes, the character limit for feedback is ridiculously low.It's almost as …Yes, the character limit for feedback is ridiculously low.It's almost as if they don't want customers to be informed about bad merchants, fakes, or general bad quality and service at all.Grade B? Those images look to me to be Grade C or worse!


True, I received some clearly fake Bosch jigsaw blades from an Ebay seller and Ebay kept deleting my feedback when I tried to say they were fake.
Voted hot, but now regret it after seeing the full photos. This is clearly not refurbished - it looks like someone's driven a car over it.
youchoose
14/09/2019 17:26
To be honest I think the seller has posted pictures of the worse case scenario, as the amount they have sold. . I doubt they will all be as bad as the one in the picture.His feedback is too good to risk it.


I'm sure the OP meant well (on the other thread) but the bit that grates with me is "His Feedback is too good to risk it" which is proven to be a lie. I suspect the seller was tipped off, hence the PM to a HUKD member who complained on there, but that's just a suspicion.

There is a reason why the Feedback is so good, they are scrupulous about getting Negs/Neutrals deleted if they can.

I'm not sure of ebay's stance if there are a deluge of complaints or an item is misrepresented. After all, the photos are there (albeit buried in the image gallery - not the main picture). Knowing how people are on the internet, some will NOT look through them all.

This should actually be "Spares And Repairs" or "Working, With Cosmetic Defects" - not "Refurbished". Refurbished to me means, made sellable - be it cosmetically or minor repairs made so it's as new, or at least, in good condition. Not laptops that look as though they've been pulled out of a skip! There's no way that is "Refurbished" - no wonder the term is so vague and so abused nowadays.

At the very least, the main photo should be representative of what you should expect and the likely condition of the laptop should be explained much better in the description. ebay listings should be, one click and all the info is in front of you - not having to read around and research - that in itself is a red flag.

Are the seller's real-world pictures worst case scenario, or best? This listing badly needs much more detailed reviews (and no deletions!) and photos from purchasers.

Also:38534176-5ohxd.jpgSo, experiences of this seller discussed on an online forum - and using photos from a seller's ebay listing, are "scaremongering" now? Okay, then...

As a prospective buyer, both ebay and the seller are at fault here. I'm sure there's loads of examples of this happening. This is not scaremongering, it's an opinion.

A business is judged by how they treat their customers, how they represent their stock, and even more crucially, how they deal with criticism. I think I'll draw my own conclusions.
Edited by: "louiselouise" 24th Sep
I think that's a harsh definition of refurbished, I fixed an old chromebook with a new screen the other day, that was listed as refurbished...
I got a "refurbished" tablet from ebay the other week. Was as dead as a door stop. They are taking ths pss.

I bought a replacement elsewhere and asked the seller to show me pictures of it on!
I would personally rather spend a few quid more on an individual seller on ebay. I am still using my X230 in mint condition - as it was looked after and not battered like these bad boys!
Bikerdanny24/09/2019 08:46

I feel items like this make a mockery of the word “refurbished”, in fact I …I feel items like this make a mockery of the word “refurbished”, in fact I would say calling this “refurbished” is a lie. it’s simply a USED and clearly abused laptop that someone is reselling. nothing against this deal, it seams a fair price even if it does have cosmetic damage. its just in my industry ( Industrial Engineering ) refurbished means a item has been stripped, components replaced, tested and is as good as new


Refurbished?, it looks like the end result of a SMASH n GRAB, where the laptop was USED to smash. CHRIST, it looks like it was delivered by MY HERpes, and no, I didn't misspell.
Gkains24/09/2019 07:53

Grade B? Those images look to me to be Grade C or worse!


"refurbished" could mean anything; but the grading appears wrong in this instance - definitely Grade C but the pictures trump all else.
Then there's the refund policy "30 days refund, buyer pays return postage"; bascially if you don't like the damage -but it works- you have to pay for the return. Which is probably fair.
Edited by: "Musicrab" 24th Sep
As of the last time I bought from them (almost 2 years ago), I can only have positive feedback for this seller. There was a problem with my last laptop and they offered to replace it within two working days.
Voted hot for the detail and effort in this post
louiselouise24/09/2019 01:10

Interesting to note they have slightly different images …Interesting to note they have slightly different images (Photoshopped/cropped/backgrounds removed) on their listing now, but please be aware of them..for some may miss them as the initial images look okay. Previous thread here(one member stated he got a passive aggressive PM from the seller when he complained on here, but you're allowed to give honest feedback, surely?)Another member was happy with what he received, so it's a crapshoot, as they say.The thread above has had further comments since I last looked, suggesting that the ebay seller is at pains to get rid of Negative or Neutral Feedback.ebay should really sort their Feedback system out, it's woefully inadequate and outdated.At least with Amazon you get a feel for over-enthusiastic or broken English reviews, or even a buyer with a grudge, and you're (usually) able to judge for yourself. That, and, of course, you're able to leave much more detailed reviews and pictures on Amazon. And their CS is much, much better.[Image] [Image] [Image] [Image]



yeah they deleted my Neutral feedback.
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