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Refurbished MacBook Pro 15" 2.4GHz £969 (29% off!) @ Apple Store
Refurbished MacBook Pro 15" 2.4GHz £969 (29% off!) @ Apple Store

Refurbished MacBook Pro 15" 2.4GHz £969 (29% off!) @ Apple Store

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Good price for the specs:

15.4-inch LED-backlit glossy widescreen display
2GB memory
250GB hard drive
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT and NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR3 SDRAM
8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Built-in iSight camera
Illuminated keyboard
Mac OS X 10.5 and iLife '09 pre-installed

* Qualifies for the £7.95 upgrade to Snow Leopard
* Used to be £1,029 before the price drop

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'refurbished' aka 'second hand' lol

that's a lot of money for a second hand laptop.

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hazeyhaze;5997862

'refurbished' aka 'second hand' lolthat's a lot of money for a second … 'refurbished' aka 'second hand' lolthat's a lot of money for a second hand laptop.



Hardly second-hand. Hot price.

FilthAndFurry;5997890

Hardly second-hand. Hot price.



Pre-owned, then?

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dxx;5997920

Pre-owned, then?



Technically, but you wouldn't notice. Apart from the box it comes in being different, it's indistinguishable from a brand new mac.

£7.95 for the upgrade to the new OS is decent too.

FilthAndFurry;5997962

Technically, but you wouldn't notice.



lol, second hand then :roll:

only apple could get away with prices set this high for 'refurbished' stuff and still charge massive prices. they did it with ipod touches recently too.

i don't see what's hot about these deals at all.

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hazeyhaze;5998007

lol, second hand then :roll:only apple could get away with prices set … lol, second hand then :roll:only apple could get away with prices set this high for 'refurbished' stuff and still charge massive prices. they did it with ipod touches recently too. i don't see what's hot about these deals at all.



I think second-hand implies someone has used something for some length of time. There are degrees of 'second-handedness'. These would either have been faulty returns or the like, but they'd have new components so are indistinguishable from new macs, but can't be sold as 'new'.

They're a hot deal for people who know what they are. But of course you'll get a lot of mac-haters who will vote cold regardless.:roll:

A quick internet search finds 'mint' second hand ones (which is what these are) with the same spec for under £900, so no I don't think it's a hot deal 'for those who know what they are' :roll:

cold voters aren't necessarily mac haters, just people who don't want to pay over the odds, kinda what this site is all about eh?

refurbished means it was sent back to apple by the customer within the 14 day return period or spent time as a demo model.

The thing to take into account is that Apple folk are very picky, especially when they pay big £££. My house mate returned 3 MB's before he got one that he was happy with, basically they all had some physical probs (scratches, misaligned keys etc) So if you happy with a cheaper MB that might have a slight scratch etc, good price. Apple QA has taken a nose dive in recent times.

If you very lucky you might get a perfect one cause the previous owner just was not happy with the laptop, and not cause it has a physical issue.

If you get one, make sure you give it a goood checking over.

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hazeyhaze;5998076

A quick internet search finds 'mint' second hand ones (which is what … A quick internet search finds 'mint' second hand ones (which is what these are) with the same spec for under £900, so no I don't think it's a hot deal 'for those who know what they are' :roll: cold voters aren't necessarily mac haters, just people who don't want to pay over the odds, kinda what this site is all about eh?



Second-hand ones with the same warranty and customer service as the Apple store? You should post a link for a deal.

Anyway, this looks like it's gonna get cold because the people who can't afford Macs are coming along. :whistling:

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hazeyhaze;5998114

hahaha, as well as arguing the toss for no reason, well done for making … hahaha, as well as arguing the toss for no reason, well done for making yourself look like a condescending elitist pr!ck to boot :thumbsup:



I pointed out that your definition was somewhat lacking and that socio-economic factors can breed resentment.

But thanks for the insult in the style of a FNC addicted redneck.:thumbsup:

2.4Ghz, 2gb of RAM - Is that not the old version and spec?

The ones your comparing in the OP to get your 29% off are superior in specification with 4gb of Ram and 2.5Ghz+ CPUs.

Lukewarm at best from me.

FilthAndFurry;5998102

Second-hand ones with the same warranty and customer service as the Apple … Second-hand ones with the same warranty and customer service as the Apple store? You should post a link for a deal.Anyway, this looks like it's gonna get cold because the people who can't afford Macs are coming along. :whistling:



Mac is a controlled environment for restricted users. Looks good and works good until you know what else better is around you.

For hardcore users/developers linux is the way to go. I know people who purchased Mac bcz they liked it and grew out of it the very next week and went on to finally load Linux onto another partition. Now the final outcome usage wise Linux 85%, Mac 15% in a PC which has MAC and Linux.

FilthAndFurry;5998164

But thanks for the insult in the style of a FNC addicted … But thanks for the insult in the style of a FNC addicted redneck.:thumbsup:



I'm not familiar with that term. Is it american ?

In terms of the deal, Apple refurbished products are pretty much as new, as buying new, in my experience. So there is a decent saving to be made on Apple's retail price.

Having said that, I've owned macs since about 2000, but gave up on them about a year ago, due to their ridiculous ever increasing prices for new hardware.

So I couldn't vote hot or cold either way. On the one hand macs are nice looking computers, with a good operating system. On the other hand, you could objectively and subjectively state that they are not worth anything like their asking price.

FilthAndFurry;5998164

I pointed out that your definition was somewhat lacking and that … I pointed out that your definition was somewhat lacking and that socio-economic factors can breed resentment.But thanks for the insult in the style of a FNC addicted redneck.:thumbsup:



quite unbelievable that you would attempt to sling mud back at me after insinuating people who vote cold 'can't afford macs' :-D

anyway since you've obviously got me figured out as a penniless 'redneck' (racist too i see? nice combo mate) why don't you send me a pm sometime if you want your boots polished or your house vacuumed. i could probably do with the money right?

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hazeyhaze;5998268

quite unbelievable that you would attempt to sling mud back at me after … quite unbelievable that you would attempt to sling mud back at me after insinuating people who vote cold 'can't afford macs' :-Danyway since you've obviously got me figured out as a penniless 'redneck' (racist too i see? nice combo mate) why don't you send me a pm sometime if you want your boots polished or your house vacuumed. i could probably do with the money right?



Racist? Interesting inference.

I polish my own boots and clean my place too. Sorry:oops:

maverik_77;5998209

Mac is a controlled environment for restricted users. Looks good and … Mac is a controlled environment for restricted users. Looks good and works good until you know what else better is around you.For hardcore users/developers linux is the way to go. I know people who purchased Mac bcz they liked it and grew out of it the very next week and went on to finally load Linux onto another partition. Now the final outcome usage wise Linux 85%, Mac 15% in a PC which has MAC and Linux.



QFT.

I could never use a Mac as a development tool. Its too locked down and restrictive in so many ways. If you want to use a Unix type development environment, get a Linux distro. Most have nice eye candy and run rather well on old hardware.

maverik_77;5998209

Mac is a controlled environment for restricted users. Looks good and … Mac is a controlled environment for restricted users. Looks good and works good until you know what else better is around you.For hardcore users/developers linux is the way to go. I know people who purchased Mac bcz they liked it and grew out of it the very next week and went on to finally load Linux onto another partition. Now the final outcome usage wise Linux 85%, Mac 15% in a PC which has MAC and Linux.



Never actually used a Mac then? OSX is a certified Unix, you can use the command line just the same as any Linux box. Hell if you're feeling really sadistic it'll even run X11 based stuff.

Build quality in Macs is definitely in decline. But the prices are still sky high.

See this thread for an example of an issue with current generation MacBook Pros that cost £1000s:
discussions.apple.com/thr…t=0

On top of that, Windows 7 is awesome. I'm seriously considering ditching my Mac. It will still sell for more than a grand and I can buy a brand new, top-of-the-line Windows laptop with that money.

cold for me sorry, 9600gt graphics card is great but this has mac operating system installed which is useless for games. For this price i expect blu ray, 4gb ram, and at least 320gb. ok so its a mac is overpriced and the customer service im told is great, but its a refurbished i can get an asus/ msi laptop for better spec at a cheaper price.

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Computerman;5999453

cold for me sorry, 9600gt graphics card is great but this has mac … cold for me sorry, 9600gt graphics card is great but this has mac operating system installed which is useless for games. For this price i expect blu ray, 4gb ram, and at least 320gb. ok so its a mac is overpriced and the customer service im told is great, but its a refurbished i can get an asus/ msi laptop for better spec at a cheaper price.



And a packet of crisps is terrible to use as a golf set, but that's not exactly what they're designed for.:roll:

FilthAndFurry;5999551

And a packet of crisps is terrible to use as a golf set, but that's not … And a packet of crisps is terrible to use as a golf set, but that's not exactly what they're designed for.:roll:



So you're saying that a mac isn't designed to do similar things to a Windows/Linux system and vise versa then ?

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skinrush;5999603

So you're saying that a mac isn't designed to do similar things to a … So you're saying that a mac isn't designed to do similar things to a Windows/Linux system and vise versa then ?



I'm saying it's not the best gaming platform in the world.

Computerman;5999453

cold for me sorry, 9600gt graphics card is great but this has mac … cold for me sorry, 9600gt graphics card is great but this has mac operating system installed which is useless for games. For this price i expect blu ray, 4gb ram, and at least 320gb. ok so its a mac is overpriced and the customer service im told is great, but its a refurbished i can get an asus/ msi laptop for better spec at a cheaper price.



I can tell you the customer service is horrible nowadays from Apple. AppleCare is a joke. We actually get better customer care from Dell who charge 2.5 times less than Apple for a three year warranty. I have never had Dell try to fight to avoid replacing a defective part. It has happened twice now in recent months with Apple.

It's very disappointing to see standards slip so quickly. It's probably no coincidence this has occurred during a period of unprecedented success for the company in the mainstream consumer space.

FilthAndFurry;5999620

I'm saying it's not the best gaming platform in the world.



Which makes mac prices even more unjustifiable then ?

Sorry, I just don't understand why you quoted the previous poster when he said something about being able to get windows hardware of much higher spec for less money.

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skinrush;5999679

Which makes mac prices even more unjustifiable then ?Sorry, I just don't … Which makes mac prices even more unjustifiable then ?Sorry, I just don't understand why you quoted the previous poster when he said something about being able to get windows hardware of much higher spec for less money.



Because the market for Macs isn't the gaming market.

It's like saying that a PS3 is overpriced because you could get a Wii cheaper.

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joeybutterface;5999635

I can tell you the customer service is horrible nowadays from Apple. … I can tell you the customer service is horrible nowadays from Apple. AppleCare is a joke. We actually get better customer care from Dell who charge 2.5 times less than Apple for a three year warranty. I have never had Dell try to fight to avoid replacing a defective part. It has happened twice now in recent months with Apple.It's very disappointing to see standards slip so quickly. It's probably no coincidence this has occurred during a period of unprecedented success for the company in the mainstream consumer space.



That's strange because I had the opposite experience. Had problems with my Macbook, booked a slot to see a genius online for the time I wanted, went in, had it diagnosed and fixed to pick up the next day.

Not quite sure what else I could have asked for - a happy ending would've been overkill:oops:

FilthAndFurry;5999716

Because the market for Macs isn't the gaming market. It's like saying … Because the market for Macs isn't the gaming market. It's like saying that a PS3 is overpriced because you could get a Wii cheaper.



Not really.

The PS3 has more expensive hardware in it than the Wii. That's why it's more expensive.

Mac's don't have more expensive hardware/specifications than many Windows systems that are cheaper.

And if Apple intended for it's market to avoid gaming, why the recent big push for upgraded graphics cards ?

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skinrush;5999769

Not really.The PS3 has more expensive hardware in it than the Wii. … Not really.The PS3 has more expensive hardware in it than the Wii. That's why it's more expensive.Mac's don't have more expensive hardware/specifications than many Windows systems that are cheaper. And if Apple intended for it's market to avoid gaming, why the recent big push for upgraded graphics cards ?



You are right - I mean the only time I think my Mac has used the graphics card is when I played a bit of Football Manager 09 on it:roll:

The other difference is that you can't run Mac OSX on a Windows computer. That's another difference.

FilthAndFurry;5999786

You are right - I mean the only time I think my Mac has used the graphics … You are right - I mean the only time I think my Mac has used the graphics card is when I played a bit of Football Manager 09 on it:roll:The other difference is that you can't run Mac OSX on a Windows computer. That's another difference.



Actually, you can.

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skinrush;5999814

Actually, you can.



It's not designed to though. Apple frowns on it.

FilthAndFurry;5999844

It's not designed to though. Apple frowns on it.



That's kind of the point though.

Apple frowns on it because they know that their operating system will work perfectly well on much cheaper hardware that they don't produce themselves.

So in effect they can charge a massive premium for systems which run OS X.

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skinrush;5999905

That's kind of the point though.Apple frowns on it because they know that … That's kind of the point though.Apple frowns on it because they know that their operating system will work perfectly well on much cheaper hardware that they don't produce themselves.So in effect they can charge a massive premium for systems which run OS X.



Absolutely.

skinrush;5999769

Mac's don't have more expensive hardware/specifications than many Windows … Mac's don't have more expensive hardware/specifications than many Windows systems that are cheaper.



Not strictly true, there's a lot more to it than the size of the hard disk or amount of RAM. Aluminium is more expensive than plastic, muti-touch touchpads are more expensive than normal ones, etc. To compare like for like you shouldn't be comparing Apple to Dell, perhaps Apple to Sony but even that's not the same!

skinrush;5999905

That's kind of the point though.Apple frowns on it because they know that … That's kind of the point though.Apple frowns on it because they know that their operating system will work perfectly well on much cheaper hardware that they don't produce themselves.So in effect they can charge a massive premium for systems which run OS X.



No Apple frowns upon it because they cannot gaurantee the same level of performance/robustness if you chuck it on any old PC, if they did that (and they have in the past experimented with the idea) it would probably suffer from the same problems as Windows.

megalomaniac;5999961

Not strictly true, there's a lot more to it than the size of the hard … Not strictly true, there's a lot more to it than the size of the hard disk or amount of RAM. Aluminium is more expensive than plastic, muti-touch touchpads are more expensive than normal ones, etc. To compare like for like you shouldn't be comparing Apple to Dell, perhaps Apple to Sony but even that's not the same!No Apple frowns upon it because they cannot gaurantee the same level of performance/robustness if you chuck it on any old PC, if they did that (and they have in the past experimented with the idea) it would probably suffer from the same problems as Windows.



Yeah, I've heard Apple's justification for their prices and operating system control before.

Ultimately though, it's about controlling their user base, and protecting their well documented, large profit margins.

hazeyhaze;5997862

'refurbished' aka 'second hand' lolthat's a lot of money for a second … 'refurbished' aka 'second hand' lolthat's a lot of money for a second hand laptop.



apple never again,,,:thumbsup:

Just a quick heads up that these are back in stock at the same price

buying an apple refurb isn't a bad thing.
any potential issues would have been ironed out during it's first life, plus the units are restored to brand new condition.
a decent opportunity to save a few bob!
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