Refurbished -  Nintendo 2DS Black & Blue Console £39.99 - Nintendo 2DS Black & Blue Console with Mario Kart 7 £49.99 (more in OP) @ Argos eBay
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Refurbished - Nintendo 2DS Black & Blue Console £39.99 - Nintendo 2DS Black & Blue Console with Mario Kart 7 £49.99 (more in OP) @ Argos eBay

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Black and blue? That's clearly white and gold
Aloo_Chat2 m ago

Black and blue? That's clearly white and gold


That takes me back to when dinosaurs were still alive.
Ordered one of these the last time it popped up. It's a good price but to temper it slightly; mine came with a grubby screen, not easily cleanable, a missing stylus and missing it's charger
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Black and blue? That's clearly white and gold
Aloo_Chat2 m ago

Black and blue? That's clearly white and gold


That takes me back to when dinosaurs were still alive.
Ordered one of these the last time it popped up. It's a good price but to temper it slightly; mine came with a grubby screen, not easily cleanable, a missing stylus and missing it's charger
It's-a me Chichi.
josh97120 m ago

Ordered one of these the last time it popped up. It's a good price but to …Ordered one of these the last time it popped up. It's a good price but to temper it slightly; mine came with a grubby screen, not easily cleanable, a missing stylus and missing it's charger


Thanks for the information.
It's tempting but I don't even play the hacked PSP I bought which has all the games ever made on it
new_lizard1 m ago

It's tempting but I don't even play the hacked PSP I bought which has all …It's tempting but I don't even play the hacked PSP I bought which has all the games ever made on it


i preferred my PSP over this.
I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming console yet. They all require compromises to get close to the home console experience.
Less graphical power, tinny speakers, impractical button layout, etc.

You can argue that Nintendo are innovative, but they're not impressive in terms of spec.

The PSP was plagued by that single analogue nub and the Vita stupidly added the touch pad at the rear of the device that constantly triggered accidental commands.

I don't know what the answer is to get the perfect handheld gaming experience, but we haven't had one yet in my opinion.
Edited by: "RickDoyle" 7th Apr
RickDoyle5 m ago

I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming …I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming console yet. They all require compromises to get close to the home console experience. Less graphical power, tinny speakers, impractical button layout, etc.You can argue that Nintendo are innovative, but they're not impressive in terms of spec. The PSP was plagued by that single analogue nub and the Vita stupidly added the touch pad at the rear of the device that constantly triggered accidental commands. I don't know what the answer is to get the perfect handheld gaming experience, but we haven't had one yet in my opinion.


Ive never made any accidental commands with the rear screen on the Vita, I think its a great console, takes a little gettin used to when playing Uncharted/Black Ops, but pick it up fairly quickly
new_lizard18 m ago

It's tempting but I don't even play the hacked PSP I bought which has all …It's tempting but I don't even play the hacked PSP I bought which has all the games ever made on it


I have a ps with loads of emulators on so essentially several other consoles portable too, occasionally turn it on for nostalgia then forget it exists for a year or so, i am partial to super Mario kart though
RickDoyle9 m ago

I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming …I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming console yet. They all require compromises to get close to the home console experience. Less graphical power, tinny speakers, impractical button layout, etc.You can argue that Nintendo are innovative, but they're not impressive in terms of spec. The PSP was plagued by that single analogue nub and the Vita stupidly added the touch pad at the rear of the device that constantly triggered accidental commands. I don't know what the answer is to get the perfect handheld gaming experience, but we haven't had one yet in my opinion.


The vita was great, just let down by the OS and Sony ditching it straight away. If Sony made a new handheld, it would be amazing and have the OS the PS4 has. They’ll never make a new one though... only Nintendo are left and people will buy theirs because they have a unique first party.

Also the Vita has PSM which was amazing, sadly again Sony ditched it and that ended Unity support
Edited by: "slannmage" 7th Apr
RickDoyle14 m ago

I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming …I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming console yet. They all require compromises to get close to the home console experience. Less graphical power, tinny speakers, impractical button layout, etc.You can argue that Nintendo are innovative, but they're not impressive in terms of spec. The PSP was plagued by that single analogue nub and the Vita stupidly added the touch pad at the rear of the device that constantly triggered accidental commands. I don't know what the answer is to get the perfect handheld gaming experience, but we haven't had one yet in my opinion.

GBA SP, DS Lite, PSP, Vita all great in my opinion
RickDoyle16 m ago

I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming …I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming console yet. They all require compromises to get close to the home console experience. Less graphical power, tinny speakers, impractical button layout, etc.You can argue that Nintendo are innovative, but they're not impressive in terms of spec. The PSP was plagued by that single analogue nub and the Vita stupidly added the touch pad at the rear of the device that constantly triggered accidental commands. I don't know what the answer is to get the perfect handheld gaming experience, but we haven't had one yet in my opinion.


The rear touch pad on the Vita is pretty redundant but I've never triggered anything accidentally, never mind constantly.
Nintendo doesn't need high specs when it has great IPs. This is a great deal and, if its your thing, easy to mod.
UltimatePhoenix17 m ago

Ive never made any accidental commands with the rear screen on the Vita, I …Ive never made any accidental commands with the rear screen on the Vita, I think its a great console, takes a little gettin used to when playing Uncharted/Black Ops, but pick it up fairly quickly


I've got large hands. Probably the reason why. I ended up buying a grip, which stopped the issue. Stopped hand cramps as well.

The Vita is plagued by issues though. The complete lack of Sony support, so they could focus on the PS4 was insanity and a proper kick in the teeth to people who bought one.

The memory cards are hugely expensive and actually reduce PSN purchases because people can't afford to download games, even when they've paid next to nothing for them in a sale. Crazy.

Remote Play of PS3 games is almost none existent (legally), which is nutty given it was one of the main advertised features that made people buy the Vita for in the first place.

I own every Sony console (multiples of, in some cases) and play them daily, but the PSP and the Vita were both flawed in design or support. That's not to say I haven't had enjoyment using them though. It just winds me up that they could have been better with different, very minor approaches.
Does the console only version come with a memory card inside?
RickDoyle1 h, 45 m ago

I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming …I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming console yet. They all require compromises to get close to the home console experience. Less graphical power, tinny speakers, impractical button layout, etc.You can argue that Nintendo are innovative, but they're not impressive in terms of spec. The PSP was plagued by that single analogue nub and the Vita stupidly added the touch pad at the rear of the device that constantly triggered accidental commands. I don't know what the answer is to get the perfect handheld gaming experience, but we haven't had one yet in my opinion.


What about the Nintendo Switch? Pretty much a home console that's portable.
This is the price I paid for a brand new one with NSMB2.
jamesianmoore37 m ago

What about the Nintendo Switch? Pretty much a home console that's portable.


I've not played one yet. I'll take your word for it.
I had a go of a Wii U recently at Arcade Club in Bury, Greater Manchester. It's a huge gaming arcade. 300+ machines and consoles. Well good.

I played Mario Kart on a HD projector screen that was wider than my house. Impressive*.

*The screen. Not my house.
Edited by: "RickDoyle" 7th Apr
jamesianmoore37 m ago

What about the Nintendo Switch? Pretty much a home console that's portable.



It's neither to be honest, it has mediocre graphics in docked mode (making it like a last gen home console) and less than mediocre graphics while being portable but also lowers the performance so some games are borderline impossible to play.

I cannot understand the hype around the switch.......it has games up to 2 years later than other consoles with worse graphics but it must be amazing as it's portable.........shame we have had laptops that can do this with better graphics for 5 years and those games usually get released the same time as other console releases. Yet if they make a actually decent pokemon game for it I will buy one tomorrow.

As for this deal if it's grade B I would say to give it a miss and check your local gumtree/selling pages.
Argos are selling refurbished Samsung HW-M360 Soundbar for £106.99 too (This item is a professionally refurbished, A-Grade, Argos Manager Special - our top grade of refurbished item)
Good prices only problem is I would buy then play once and forget I had it , heat added
Westwoodo9 h, 52 m ago

It's neither to be honest, it has mediocre graphics in docked mode (making …It's neither to be honest, it has mediocre graphics in docked mode (making it like a last gen home console) and less than mediocre graphics while being portable but also lowers the performance so some games are borderline impossible to play.I cannot understand the hype around the switch.......it has games up to 2 years later than other consoles with worse graphics but it must be amazing as it's portable.........shame we have had laptops that can do this with better graphics for 5 years and those games usually get released the same time as other console releases. Yet if they make a actually decent pokemon game for it I will buy one tomorrow.As for this deal if it's grade B I would say to give it a miss and check your local gumtree/selling pages.


The graphics are fine for the target market ie not 4K and mostly casual gamers. Your pc comment is not really valid as they won’t release the main games like Zelda for anything other than the switch.
Aloo_Chat13 h, 34 m ago

Black and blue? That's clearly white and gold


Point! Winner!
vmistery1 h, 51 m ago

The graphics are fine for the target market ie not 4K and mostly casual …The graphics are fine for the target market ie not 4K and mostly casual gamers. Your pc comment is not really valid as they won’t release the main games like Zelda for anything other than the switch.


Or Xenoblade, or odyssey or hmm splatoon, plus the graphics aren't as bad as you say. I mean no they aren't 4k. Then again, I'm not a graphics snob so I'm very happy with that you know what your getting into when buying the console. Just like a x box.
Edited by: "irishsea" 8th Apr
HOT - brought one of these couple months back paid £52 with an eBay 20% off but was grade A tbf but good price still.
Is the 2DS Homebrew-able? And if so, what's a good cartridge for that?
Infinite.Element17 m ago

Is the 2DS Homebrew-able? And if so, what's a good cartridge for that?


Don't need a cart.
slannmage15 h, 5 m ago

The vita was great, just let down by the OS and Sony ditching it straight …The vita was great, just let down by the OS and Sony ditching it straight away. If Sony made a new handheld, it would be amazing and have the OS the PS4 has. They’ll never make a new one though... only Nintendo are left and people will buy theirs because they have a unique first party.Also the Vita has PSM which was amazing, sadly again Sony ditched it and that ended Unity support


For me, the Vita was gimped by two things - the sticks were in awkward positions (the left stick and the D-Pad should have been the other way around), and the lack of L2/R2. Remote Play of the PS4 was fantastic, but these design choices hampered the experience.

The Switch is great because it is both portable and a home console, but its power is reduced in order to make it portable. My ideal set up would be PS4/Xbox performance with a controller with a screen for optional local remote play (not unlike what the Wii U attempted to do with that beast of a controller), with the option of playing some reduced quality games locally on the controller when away from the main console - a bit like an upgraded VMU from the Dreamcast. These are probably pretty complicated to implement, so the Switch solution is the way forward
m.ad15 m ago

For me, the Vita was gimped by two things - the sticks were in awkward …For me, the Vita was gimped by two things - the sticks were in awkward positions (the left stick and the D-Pad should have been the other way around), and the lack of L2/R2. Remote Play of the PS4 was fantastic, but these design choices hampered the experience.The Switch is great because it is both portable and a home console, but its power is reduced in order to make it portable. My ideal set up would be PS4/Xbox performance with a controller with a screen for optional local remote play (not unlike what the Wii U attempted to do with that beast of a controller), with the option of playing some reduced quality games locally on the controller when away from the main console - a bit like an upgraded VMU from the Dreamcast. These are probably pretty complicated to implement, so the Switch solution is the way forward


Switch is too big to be portable for me, I always leave it at home and just play it on the TV. For kids in the car it’s fine, just not good for an adult on public transport.

The Vita get much better IMO as a portable device, I find the sticks and buttons to be more comfortable too. Yeah it lacks triggers, but you just used the touch pad as digital ones, the switch doesn’t have analogue triggers either.

If Sony made a PSP2 or Vita 2, it would be three or four times as powerful as the Switch judging from the latest arm chips. All they would have to focus on over the Vita is software tbh.
RickDoyle16 h, 59 m ago

I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming …I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming console yet. They all require compromises to get close to the home console experience. Less graphical power, tinny speakers, impractical button layout, etc.You can argue that Nintendo are innovative, but they're not impressive in terms of spec. The PSP was plagued by that single analogue nub and the Vita stupidly added the touch pad at the rear of the device that constantly triggered accidental commands. I don't know what the answer is to get the perfect handheld gaming experience, but we haven't had one yet in my opinion.


I got to say the Vita is the closest anyone has come to creating the perfect handheld. I still play mine loads.
RickDoyle17 h, 25 m ago

I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming …I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming console yet. They all require compromises to get close to the home console experience. Less graphical power, tinny speakers, impractical button layout, etc.You can argue that Nintendo are innovative, but they're not impressive in terms of spec. The PSP was plagued by that single analogue nub and the Vita stupidly added the touch pad at the rear of the device that constantly triggered accidental commands. I don't know what the answer is to get the perfect handheld gaming experience, but we haven't had one yet in my opinion.


The switch is pretty close. Drawbacks, battery life and cost. You could argue that it isn't a purely handheld console, but i know many people that use it as handheld only even if they plug it in to charge while doing so.

I agree with what you've said.
josh97118 h, 19 m ago

Ordered one of these the last time it popped up. It's a good price but to …Ordered one of these the last time it popped up. It's a good price but to temper it slightly; mine came with a grubby screen, not easily cleanable, a missing stylus and missing it's charger


Did you return it?
Cracking price for a brilliant console. My daughter and I love playing together on these
distracted2471 h, 1 m ago

The switch is pretty close. Drawbacks, battery life and cost. You could …The switch is pretty close. Drawbacks, battery life and cost. You could argue that it isn't a purely handheld console, but i know many people that use it as handheld only even if they plug it in to charge while doing so.I agree with what you've said.


I think my partner and I may be the only 2 people that use the switch as a purely handheld console. I think we have used it docked for Mario kart 3 times. Other than that it's purely handheld and for me the battery usually as much if not more than any other hand held I own.
All out of stock now
irishsea39 m ago

I think my partner and I may be the only 2 people that use the switch as a …I think my partner and I may be the only 2 people that use the switch as a purely handheld console. I think we have used it docked for Mario kart 3 times. Other than that it's purely handheld and for me the battery usually as much if not more than any other hand held I own.


I know at least 5 people that seem to never dock theirs. So that's 7

Even when the tv and dock is right in front of them they will curl up on the sofa in the same room and play with it undocked. Plus the obvious taking it out and about or on journeys. I've heard its convenient and comfortable. They really do treat it like a portable. It's seriously tempted me to get one.

Another I know leaves his docked all the time but seems to use it much less anyway, outside of group gaming.
Fluffy_bandit6 h, 13 m ago

HOT - brought one of these couple months back paid £52 with an eBay 20% …HOT - brought one of these couple months back paid £52 with an eBay 20% off but was grade A tbf but good price still.


Where did you bring it?
themanwithapc4 h, 44 m ago

Did you return it?


Yes. Went without a hitch to be fair to Argos ebay
Westwoodo19 h, 59 m ago

I cannot understand the hype around the switch..



Westwoodo19 h, 58 m ago. Yet if they make a actually decent pokemon game for it I will buy one tomorrow.

You just hit the nail on the head, it's all about the games themselves. Nintendo produce AAA games
Edited by: "josh971" 8th Apr
RickDoyle22 h, 59 m ago

I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming …I don't think Sony or Nintendo have made a truly great handheld gaming console yet. They all require compromises to get close to the home console experience. Less graphical power, tinny speakers, impractical button layout, etc.You can argue that Nintendo are innovative, but they're not impressive in terms of spec. The PSP was plagued by that single analogue nub and the Vita stupidly added the touch pad at the rear of the device that constantly triggered accidental commands. I don't know what the answer is to get the perfect handheld gaming experience, but we haven't had one yet in my opinion.


You clearly never played Pokemon Yellow on the Gameboy Colour. As close to gaming perfection as possible. Spent hours playing that.
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