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Refurbished Pentium N4200 laptop 4gb RAM 64GB EMMC laptop £140.50 delivered at Tesco on eBay
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Refurbished Pentium N4200 laptop 4gb RAM 64GB EMMC laptop £140.50 delivered at Tesco on eBay

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Posted 21st Jun

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Comes with full 12 month Tesco warranty, specs seemed OK for the money if just looking for a basic internet surfing laptop and a bit more flexible than a netbook/chromebook due to full Win 10 and 64gb rather than 32gb drive.

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N4200 may be fast enough for Chrome OS, (like in my Acer 15 Chromebook,) but I can't imagine it would be nice running something as bloated as Windows 10, even in S mode.

Can a user comment?
Masteryates21/06/2019 11:48

N4200 may be fast enough for Chrome OS, (like in my Acer 15 Chromebook,) …N4200 may be fast enough for Chrome OS, (like in my Acer 15 Chromebook,) but I can't imagine it would be nice running something as bloated as Windows 10, even in S mode. Can a user comment?


Windows 10 is bloated? It runs pretty efficiently from my experience, even on these low powered processors. My concern is usually RAM and storage space but this has both covered fine, for the price anyway.
Edited by: "rev6" 21st Jun
Masteryates21/06/2019 11:48

N4200 may be fast enough for Chrome OS, (like in my Acer 15 Chromebook,) …N4200 may be fast enough for Chrome OS, (like in my Acer 15 Chromebook,) but I can't imagine it would be nice running something as bloated as Windows 10, even in S mode. Can a user comment?


This is fair bit faster than Celeron and atom so should be fine for day to day. Clearly not going to be any good for gaming or video editing but should cope with YouTube, Netflix etc
rev621/06/2019 11:53

Windows 10 is bloated? It runs pretty efficiently from my experience, even …Windows 10 is bloated? It runs pretty efficiently from my experience, even on these low powered processors. My concern is usually RAM and storage space but this has both covered fine, for the price anyway.


Of course Windows 10 is bloated. 2 Versions of the settings app? Having to be running a Virus Checker the whole time. CPU working hard due to the Spectre vulnerability.

My £206 Acer Chromebook leaves my £709 Windows 10 laptop eating dust.
Masteryates21/06/2019 14:03

Of course Windows 10 is bloated. 2 Versions of the settings app? Having to …Of course Windows 10 is bloated. 2 Versions of the settings app? Having to be running a Virus Checker the whole time. CPU working hard due to the Spectre vulnerability. My £206 Acer Chromebook leaves my £709 Windows 10 laptop eating dust.



What do you mean by 2 versions of the setting app? Anti-virus are bloat now? Spectre was patched in Windows 10. You can disable it, if you want. Or just never update BIOS/Windows and be vulnerable, unless you think Windows 10 caused the vulnerability?

Does the laptop have an SSD?
Edited by: "rev6" 21st Jun
This would make a great media HTPC just use the screeen if necessary ... Would need to add extra storage and another 4Gb of ram would make the whole thing smoother.
This would be fine for general browsing and if left plugged in you dont need to worry about the barrety life , its a refurb.
GwanGy21/06/2019 14:14

This would make a great media HTPC just use the screeen if necessary ... …This would make a great media HTPC just use the screeen if necessary ... Would need to add extra storage and another 4Gb of ram would make the whole thing smoother. This would be fine for general browsing and if left plugged in you dont need to worry about the barrety life , its a refurb.



All the memory is soldered, neither SSD or RAM are upgradeable I'm afraid.
rev621/06/2019 14:05

What do you mean by 2 versions of the setting app? Anti-virus are bloat …What do you mean by 2 versions of the setting app? Anti-virus are bloat now? Spectre was patched in Windows 10. You can disable it, if you want. Or just never update BIOS/Windows and be vulnerable, unless you think Windows 10 caused the vulnerability?Does the laptop have an SSD?


Yes rev6, there are two versions of many things in Windows 10. There is the Windows 8 style settings and also a Windows 7/XP/2000 control panel. As other OS's don't need virus scanners, (iOS, Android, Chrome OS, etc.) the nagging and resources used by the virus scanner is bloat. My Asus FX503 has a 128GB SSD and 7th gen i5 CPU with 8GB RAM and is whipped by the Pentium N4200 Chromebook with 4GB RAM using far slower 32GB eMMC storage.
Masteryates21/06/2019 14:36

Yes rev6, there are two versions of many things in Windows 10. There is …Yes rev6, there are two versions of many things in Windows 10. There is the Windows 8 style settings and also a Windows 7/XP/2000 control panel. As other OS's don't need virus scanners, (iOS, Android, Chrome OS, etc.) the nagging and resources used by the virus scanner is bloat. My Asus FX503 has a 128GB SSD and 7th gen i5 CPU with 8GB RAM and is whipped by the Pentium N4200 Chromebook with 4GB RAM using far slower 32GB eMMC storage.


There's no defending Microsoft's slow attempt at migrating things from CP to Settings.
Even TV's have malware scanners. You might not NEED them, but it's recommended to use them. I have mine disabled on Windows so it doesn't bother me anyway.
What is this Chromebook whipping compared to the Windows laptop. Browser page load speed? Gaming? I am curious.
Edited by: "rev6" 21st Jun
rev621/06/2019 14:39

There's no defending Microsoft's slow attempt at migrating things from CP …There's no defending Microsoft's slow attempt at migrating things from CP to Settings. Even TV's have malware scanners. You might not NEED them, but it's recommended to use them. I have mine disabled on Windows so it doesn't bother me anyway.What is this Chromebook whipping compared to the Windows laptop. Browser page load speed? Gaming? I am curious.


So from turning the CB on, it takes about 10 seconds to get to login screen, once logged in, loading any web page is quicker than on Windows 10. Whilst surfing, I maybe get a notification to say the OS has been updated. To close down, I then simply press and hold the power button which takes about 6 seconds. The next boot is only 10 seconds as usual even though the whole OS has been updated.

On Windows 10, it takes about the same to get to login. Once on the desktop, there is lag as things like the virus scanner have to load up. I then have to deal with the nag messages about buying the pro version of the virus checker etc. Loading the same web page is slower than on the CB. I then hit shut down, and the PC takes an eternity as it has to install updates. The next boot takes ages at it finishes installing the prior updates.

You can't game on a CB, that's all I use the Windows 10 machine for these days. Everything else is faster, easier and more secure on the CB.
Masteryates21/06/2019 14:49

So from turning the CB on, it takes about 10 seconds to get to login …So from turning the CB on, it takes about 10 seconds to get to login screen, once logged in, loading any web page is quicker than on Windows 10. Whilst surfing, I maybe get a notification to say the OS has been updated. To close down, I then simply press and hold the power button which takes about 6 seconds. The next boot is only 10 seconds as usual even though the whole OS has been updated. On Windows 10, it takes about the same to get to login. Once on the desktop, there is lag as things like the virus scanner have to load up. I then have to deal with the nag messages about buying the pro version of the virus checker etc. Loading the same web page is slower than on the CB. I then hit shut down, and the PC takes an eternity as it has to install updates. The next boot takes ages at it finishes installing the prior updates. You can't game on a CB, that's all I use the Windows 10 machine for these days. Everything else is faster, easier and more secure on the CB.



But the Chrome OS is so much more limited than a Windows PC. I don't think it's a fair comparasion. Of course the Chromebook is going to be faster at things it was designed to do from the ground up. I wouldn't call that bloated. I'd call it more functional. But I guess it depends who you ask!
Edited by: "rev6" 21st Jun
Masteryates21/06/2019 14:49

So from turning the CB on, it takes about 10 seconds to get to login …So from turning the CB on, it takes about 10 seconds to get to login screen, once logged in, loading any web page is quicker than on Windows 10. Whilst surfing, I maybe get a notification to say the OS has been updated. To close down, I then simply press and hold the power button which takes about 6 seconds. The next boot is only 10 seconds as usual even though the whole OS has been updated. On Windows 10, it takes about the same to get to login. Once on the desktop, there is lag as things like the virus scanner have to load up. I then have to deal with the nag messages about buying the pro version of the virus checker etc. Loading the same web page is slower than on the CB. I then hit shut down, and the PC takes an eternity as it has to install updates. The next boot takes ages at it finishes installing the prior updates. You can't game on a CB, that's all I use the Windows 10 machine for these days. Everything else is faster, easier and more secure on the CB.


Mate, there is something wrong with your lappy then. I'm running a CHEAP chinese SSD on a Haswell desktop and everything you described loads instantly. I have bitdefender in the background and my reactions are slower than the loads speeds. Chrome, Edge, word, excel all loads virtually instantly.
majorwedgy8421/06/2019 14:53

Mate, there is something wrong with your lappy then. I'm running a CHEAP …Mate, there is something wrong with your lappy then. I'm running a CHEAP chinese SSD on a Haswell desktop and everything you described loads instantly. I have bitdefender in the background and my reactions are slower than the loads speeds. Chrome, Edge, word, excel all loads virtually instantly.


Obvious reaction MW, but the laptop is fine. Friends have the same machine and the CB still beats them for simple web surfing. Not having to load up a virus scanner will always be quicker than having to load one no matter how quick the machine.
majorwedgy8421/06/2019 14:53

Mate, there is something wrong with your lappy then. I'm running a CHEAP …Mate, there is something wrong with your lappy then. I'm running a CHEAP chinese SSD on a Haswell desktop and everything you described loads instantly. I have bitdefender in the background and my reactions are slower than the loads speeds. Chrome, Edge, word, excel all loads virtually instantly.



I've noticed on a handful of computers that Windows Defender has a process that eats up too much CPU time. I think the connection is they're running Windows 10 Home, not sure. You have to grant yourself permissions for this program and delete it in Safe Mode. It could be this running on their laptop. Who knows.
Edited by: "rev6" 21st Jun
Masteryates21/06/2019 14:58

Obvious reaction MW, but the laptop is fine. Friends have the same machine …Obvious reaction MW, but the laptop is fine. Friends have the same machine and the CB still beats them for simple web surfing. Not having to load up a virus scanner will always be quicker than having to load one no matter how quick the machine.


Not saying won't make difference, but what it makes a difference that matters is the point I was making. Either way, this deal is just offering an option to those that want a little more flexibility in their available options than just the chromebook route.
rev621/06/2019 14:52

But the Chrome OS is so much more limited than a Windows PC. I don't think …But the Chrome OS is so much more limited than a Windows PC. I don't think it's a fair comparasion. Of course the Chromebook is going to be faster at things it was designed to do from the ground up. I wouldn't call that bloated. I'd call it more functional. But I guess it depends who you ask!


Oh yes rev6, the CB is much more restricted. If you're a gamer or do professional work at home like video or photo editing, then you will need a PC. The thing is, lots of us just do the simple things, surfin, youtube, gmail, docs, sheets. It's here where the CB shines. When you go back to a PC, you ask yourself, why am I having to both with all this update/virus/bloat crap?

Getting back to the deal here, do you think this machine will be used for gaming or video editing?
Masteryates21/06/2019 15:04

Oh yes rev6, the CB is much more restricted. If you're a gamer or do …Oh yes rev6, the CB is much more restricted. If you're a gamer or do professional work at home like video or photo editing, then you will need a PC. The thing is, lots of us just do the simple things, surfin, youtube, gmail, docs, sheets. It's here where the CB shines. When you go back to a PC, you ask yourself, why am I having to both with all this update/virus/bloat crap? Getting back to the deal here, do you think this machine will be used for gaming or video editing?



I really don't know what people will use this for. The specs show it's more of a consumption device. You can be productive on it though.
majorwedgy8421/06/2019 15:04

Not saying won't make difference, but what it makes a difference that …Not saying won't make difference, but what it makes a difference that matters is the point I was making. Either way, this deal is just offering an option to those that want a little more flexibility in their available options than just the chromebook route.


I think we are both actually saying something similar. I'm saying at this pricepoint, a CB is another option that may yield a better experience, you might be saying, this can do it all, (but maybe think about spending more?)

I personally wouldn't wish this machine on anybody.
rev621/06/2019 15:06

I really don't know what people will use this for. The specs show it's …I really don't know what people will use this for. The specs show it's more of a consumption device. You can be productive on it though.


Agreed about this being a consumption device. You can certainly be more productive, question is, would you really want to on this?
Masteryates21/06/2019 15:12

Agreed about this being a consumption device. You can certainly be more …Agreed about this being a consumption device. You can certainly be more productive, question is, would you really want to on this?


I've known a few people that bought a Chromebook and returned them due to how limited they were. That was a while ago, it's probably a different experience now, can't be certain. I could easily be productive on this. I don't mean editing 4K video or encoding large files, but I would be more at home on Windows. Knowing my limitations is the problem.
Edited by: "rev6" 21st Jun
rev621/06/2019 15:14

I've known a few people that bought a Chromebook and returned them due to …I've known a few people that bought a Chromebook and returned them due to how limited they were. That was a while ago, it's probably a different experience now, can't be certain. I could easily be productive on this. I don't mean editing 4K video or encoding large files, but I would be more at home on Windows. Knowing my limitations is the problem.


When I bought my FX503, I was in your position rev6. At home I game, edit video and surf lots of smut. My brand new Windows 10 machine should have done it all. The reality was an OS that I hated, (coming from Windows 7,) a poor trackpad, (that I couldn't configure to use 1 finger scrolling,) and a crappy TN screen with great response times for games, but awful for video. I could live with Windows 10 for the gaming, but everything else was so poor. At this point I was in PC world and stumbled on my Acer 15. I've not looked back since.
If paying ~£150 for a refurb... Look at 3rd/4th gen i5 Thinkpads on 'the web' .

I got a 3rd Gen with 8gb ram in a carryable but useable 12.5". Its an x230 (the T series is 15" if interested). All in, with the charger and expanded battery was £140 about 6 months ago. They can actually be a bit cheaper.

Thinkpads go for up to £1500 new to businesses so also have good convenience features.
Slappyhaze9921/06/2019 15:54

If paying ~£150 for a refurb... Look at 3rd/4th gen i5 Thinkpads on 'the …If paying ~£150 for a refurb... Look at 3rd/4th gen i5 Thinkpads on 'the web' .I got a 3rd Gen with 8gb ram in a carryable but useable 12.5". Its an x230 (the T series is 15" if interested). All in, with the charger and expanded battery was £140 about 6 months ago. They can actually be a bit cheaper. Thinkpads go for up to £1500 new to businesses so also have good convenience features.

For what it's worth I wouldn't go for this myself because I'd go ex corporate like you suggested. However plenty of people want warranty back by big brand and so this would suit better and is much cheaper than anything in pc world etc
Edited by: "majorwedgy84" 21st Jun
Yes indeed. I got a refurbed Lenovo and Windows Defendee hogged 100% of CPU and couldnt be switched off. Back you go.
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