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Renault Zoe Hatchback - EV - 80KW I Play R110 50KWh 5dr Auto - £5,891 24 months / 8K pa @ What Car? Leasing

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Posted 5th Feb

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Good two year / 8k lease deal for a Renault Zoe.

The Renault Zoe is great value, decent to drive and has a long range between charges. Small electric cars don't get any better.

Trim: Play
Play trim is available only with the lower-powered R110 motor, so is the cheapest way into Zoe ownership. It comes with the 7.0in infotainment system with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto smartphone mirroring as standard, plus a DAB radio and two USB sockets. Driving tech includes cruise control, although you have to do without some important safety kit, including automatic emergency braking.
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The "Play" trim can only charge at up to 22kW AC (at best), meaning it will take 3-10 hours to recharge, depending on the charging post used.

The higher "Iconic" & "GT-Line" can both be specified with an optional 50kW DC charging module as well, bringing that charge time down as low as 1 hour for an 80% top up on a long trip.

Range at 100% charge is about 230 miles in summer, 150 in winter, according to Renault, at a cost of 2-3p per mile.

(Disclosure: I have a GT-Line with DC charging on order )
Edited by: "wonkothesane" 5th Feb
Besford05/02/2020 17:52

Friend loves his Zoe - but went away to Devon (from Midlands) for a …Friend loves his Zoe - but went away to Devon (from Midlands) for a weekend and wife reckons they spent a total of eleven hours searching for chargers and charging up. Great locally but the tech and the infrastructure is still way off what's needed. Not a real world alternative to an ICE car for most people.


Are they just daft, or was that made up?

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Look at all the charging points, and that isn't including just borrowing a 3-pin socket in almost any building .
Misslovely05/02/2020 14:58

Didn’t know it was electric car. Title didn’t say so Oh well


It's a Zoe, which only comes in electric.
Misslovely05/02/2020 14:15

6k for a small car is too much for 2 years


What.. lease a Dacia sandero for 2 years for £4200 and pay £2000 for 16,000miles worth of fuel?
Zoe might not be for you but a good deal all the same. Heat added
Edited by: "Belogical" 5th Feb
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£245 a month all in is pretty good.
6k for a small car is too much for 2 years
Why does it look like a track day photo?
Misslovely05/02/2020 14:15

6k for a small car is too much for 2 years


What.. lease a Dacia sandero for 2 years for £4200 and pay £2000 for 16,000miles worth of fuel?
Zoe might not be for you but a good deal all the same. Heat added
Edited by: "Belogical" 5th Feb
Not a Tesla, COLD!!

Just j/king, hot!
Hungryhorris05/02/2020 14:16

Why does it look like a track day photo?


What does the photo have to do with the deal?
Misslovely05/02/2020 14:15

6k for a small car is too much for 2 years


Are you considering the saving in fuel?
g3legacy05/02/2020 14:52

Are you considering the saving in fuel?


Didn’t know it was electric car. Title didn’t say so
Oh well
Misslovely05/02/2020 14:58

Didn’t know it was electric car. Title didn’t say so Oh well


It's a Zoe, which only comes in electric.
The "Play" trim can only charge at up to 22kW AC (at best), meaning it will take 3-10 hours to recharge, depending on the charging post used.

The higher "Iconic" & "GT-Line" can both be specified with an optional 50kW DC charging module as well, bringing that charge time down as low as 1 hour for an 80% top up on a long trip.

Range at 100% charge is about 230 miles in summer, 150 in winter, according to Renault, at a cost of 2-3p per mile.

(Disclosure: I have a GT-Line with DC charging on order )
Edited by: "wonkothesane" 5th Feb
Misslovely05/02/2020 14:58

Didn’t know it was electric car. Title didn’t say so Oh well


50kwh isn’t a storage unit in yukky petrol.
No mention of battery rental - is it included or Renault scrapped it for the new deals?
Belogical05/02/2020 14:33

What lease a Dacia sandero for 2 years for £4200 and pay £2000 for 1 …What lease a Dacia sandero for 2 years for £4200 and pay £2000 for 16,000miles worth of fuel? Zoe might not be for you but a good deal all the same. Heat added


Not sure how much it would cost for the Zoe for 16,000 miles if you need to charge while out and about,might not be that much in it whatcar.com/new…833
brrr3605/02/2020 15:27

No mention of battery rental - is it included or Renault scrapped it for …No mention of battery rental - is it included or Renault scrapped it for the new deals?


Doesn't exist anymore.
They stopped the renting the battery thing now?
Hot - good value option for those wanting an EV.
wonkothesane05/02/2020 15:05

The "Play" trim can only charge at up to 22kW AC (at best), meaning it …The "Play" trim can only charge at up to 22kW AC (at best), meaning it will take 3-10 hours to recharge, depending on the charging post used.The higher "Iconic" & "GT-Line" can both be specified with an optional 50kW DC charging module as well, bringing that charge time down as low as 1 hour for an 80% top up on a long trip.Range at 100% charge is about 230 miles in summer, 150 in winter, according to Renault, at a cost of 2-3p per mile.(Disclosure: I have a GT-Line with DC charging on order )


How much did you pay , just out of interest. I am after Iconic trim. using carwow....
Belogical05/02/2020 14:33

What lease a Dacia sandero for 2 years for £4200 and pay £2000 for 1 …What lease a Dacia sandero for 2 years for £4200 and pay £2000 for 16,000miles worth of fuel? Zoe might not be for you but a good deal all the same. Heat added


Dacia don’t make auto’s Not really a good comparison
Hammerit4405/02/2020 15:38

Not sure how much it would cost for the Zoe for 16,000 miles if you need …Not sure how much it would cost for the Zoe for 16,000 miles if you need to charge while out and about,might not be that much in it https://www.whatcar.com/news/electric-vehicle-charging-–-what-does-it-really-cost/n16833


Don't accidentally charge up at an Ionity, it will cost you twice as much as petrol!
littel.helper05/02/2020 16:39

How much did you pay , just out of interest. I am after Iconic trim. using …How much did you pay , just out of interest. I am after Iconic trim. using carwow....


I got local dealer to match best carwow quote on same terms. (4yr pcp, 12k miles, £3500 deposit).
Not obvious if this includes Battery Rental or not.

Renault can charge rental for the batteries on Zoe's or you can pay extra and buy outright, so clarify before you jump in as you may be stung extra per month.
Friend loves his Zoe - but went away to Devon (from Midlands) for a weekend and wife reckons they spent a total of eleven hours searching for chargers and charging up. Great locally but the tech and the infrastructure is still way off what's needed. Not a real world alternative to an ICE car for most people.
annodomini205/02/2020 17:51

Not obvious if this includes Battery Rental or not.Renault can charge …Not obvious if this includes Battery Rental or not.Renault can charge rental for the batteries on Zoe's or you can pay extra and buy outright, so clarify before you jump in as you may be stung extra per month.


Read the thread!
GAVINLEWISHUKD05/02/2020 16:50

Don't accidentally charge up at an Ionity, it will cost you twice as much …Don't accidentally charge up at an Ionity, it will cost you twice as much as petrol!


Yup, their new pricing is a joke 69p Kwh vs somewhere between free and 30p elsewhere.
I've found Polar have quite a few zero cost charging points near me that also give free premium parking for 3 hours!
Edited by: "edgeone" 5th Feb
veralum05/02/2020 16:43

Dacia don’t make auto’s Not really a good comparison


Very true... an automatic would be more
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Besford05/02/2020 17:52

Friend loves his Zoe - but went away to Devon (from Midlands) for a …Friend loves his Zoe - but went away to Devon (from Midlands) for a weekend and wife reckons they spent a total of eleven hours searching for chargers and charging up. Great locally but the tech and the infrastructure is still way off what's needed. Not a real world alternative to an ICE car for most people.


She sounds like a hoot!
Besford05/02/2020 17:52

Friend loves his Zoe - but went away to Devon (from Midlands) for a …Friend loves his Zoe - but went away to Devon (from Midlands) for a weekend and wife reckons they spent a total of eleven hours searching for chargers and charging up. Great locally but the tech and the infrastructure is still way off what's needed. Not a real world alternative to an ICE car for most people.


Are they just daft, or was that made up?

39843639-5Bi6W.jpg

Look at all the charging points, and that isn't including just borrowing a 3-pin socket in almost any building .
I think it is dismal but can see how it could be very cheap and very good for city dwellers. Also if you all get one and like them I can drive around more in fun petrol cars because there will be more fossils for me. So I approve.
g3legacy05/02/2020 14:52

Are you considering the saving in fuel?


Misslovely is right though. As the last equivalent clio posted on Hukd for 24 months on 8kmiles was just under £4k for 2 years all in.

Tax would be free on an electric, but youve also got to look at insurance which would be higher (I was quoted an extra 200) and you have to consider the cost of electricity you would have access to. At the higher end of the public rates (30p per kwh) that's still around half the equivalent cost of petrol.

Heres an Interesting article looking at the cost of charging a zoe, being anything from £3 quid to £18 quid for 250 miles depending where you are when you need to charge. whatcar.com/new…833
Regprentice05/02/2020 19:21

Heres an Interesting article looking at the cost of charging a zoe, being …Heres an Interesting article looking at the cost of charging a zoe, being anything from £3 quid to £18 quid for 250 miles depending where you are when you need to charge. https://www.whatcar.com/news/electric-vehicle-charging-%E2%80%93-what-does-it-really-cost/n16833


Another interesting point is that approximately 7% of miles travelled of the average car user are outside of their normal living and commuting areas. To put that in numbers that is 700 miles, in 10,000, I thought it was low, but I actually only do just over the 7%, albeit on a higher mileage overall. This year I'll be doing way more than 7% due to getting an EV, oh the irony.
Uncommon.Sense05/02/2020 19:03

Are they just daft, or was that made up?[Image] Look at all the charging …Are they just daft, or was that made up?[Image] Look at all the charging points, and that isn't including just borrowing a 3-pin socket in almost any building .


That's across all charging networks - typically people subscribe to one or two so you would be limiting those to ones on your network - then it's down to availability. I travel a fair bit but plan quite methodically and have to date not really had an issue, but there is definitely room for improvement.
Uncommon.Sense05/02/2020 19:03

Are they just daft, or was that made up?[Image] Look at all the charging …Are they just daft, or was that made up?[Image] Look at all the charging points, and that isn't including just borrowing a 3-pin socket in almost any building .


When you zoom in all those big symbols just become one charger with a couple of sockets.

Cornwall has 115 chargers to serve a population of 566,000 before considering 5mn tourists a year.

- Falmouth with a population of 23k has 3 chargers
- Truro with a population of 19k has 3 chargers
- StIves with a population of 12k has no chargers, despite being popular with tourists and being in a hilly area that hits EV batteries.

Ive stayed in penzance on the quayside before but was never able to park anywhere near my accommodation.
Regprentice05/02/2020 20:37

When you zoom in all those big symbols just become one charger with a …When you zoom in all those big symbols just become one charger with a couple of sockets. Cornwall has 115 chargers to serve a population of 566,000 before considering 5mn tourists a year. - Falmouth with a population of 23k has 3 chargers- Truro with a population of 19k has 3 chargers- StIves with a population of 12k has no chargers, despite being popular with tourists and being in a hilly area that hits EV batteries. Ive stayed in penzance on the quayside before but was never able to park anywhere near my accommodation.


What's your point with regards to the original comment? No one spends 11 hours looking for a charger, and charging. A 3-pin socket would have re-charged the battery to almost full from flat in that time.

I didn't say there were enough points/sockets, just pointing out how unlikely the claimed story was unless the person driving had no clue about EV's and it was their first day of ownership.
Great deal, I wonder if the “free home charger” offer applies to this deal
Uncommon.Sense05/02/2020 21:07

What's your point with regards to the original comment? No one spends 11 …What's your point with regards to the original comment? No one spends 11 hours looking for a charger, and charging. A 3-pin socket would have re-charged the battery to almost full from flat in that time. I didn't say there were enough points/sockets, just pointing out how unlikely the claimed story was unless the person driving had no clue about EV's and it was their first day of ownership.


The 11 hours quoted Included charging time and may well have included travelling time to Cornwall.

Here is an article in the Independant describing similar, London to Cornwall In an egolf, 11 hours to travel 250 miles with 4 stops to charge. He describes broken chargers, chargers that don't work or disconnect Randomly, and he fails to get the car to charge over 71%.

You could well spend the day (11hrs) travelling round Cornwall sight seeing, and also checking parking bays to see if you can find a charging station compatible with your car, which works and which isn't occupied out of the 115 in the whole county.

The zoe doesn't take 11 hours to charge fully from the mains. It takes 30 hours.

I've stayed in Penzance and Mousehole, in neither place could I park anywhere near my accomodation, and in many towns in Cornwall the only place to park is on the harbour wall or at a car park at the top of the hill outside town. So no scope to run a plug socket.

They've got a nice calculator on the Renault website for the Zoes battery range. It starts at 260 miles, but the calculator indicates that driving down the A30 at 70mph on a cold day would immediately drop it to 110 miles. Its a hilly area, but broadly speaking if you drove inland you would be driving uphill most of the way, on some pretty steep hills, which would also impact the predicted range. So you could quite legitimately start with a 'full' car showing 110 miles of range, then drive Inland uphill and it wouldn't take long before you started to worry if you felt you needed to refill the car at 50 miles range left.

Its the sort of scenario where the behavioural differences between petrol and electric make electric look negative to 'normal people'. To most Ice drivers a full car is a car that can travel 400-500 miles under pretty much any circumstances. Start driving an electric and it's a car that can do 250 miles at 30mph... Or maybe 120 miles at 70mph, and that depends on traffic, your speed, the weather (for heating/AC) or the 'topography' of your journey.

I'm driving from Edinburgh to Inverness next weekend. I wonder what driving experience an electric would offer over 152 miles driving at 70mph which is osttensibly all uphill and the ambient daytime temperature will be between 0 and 5 °. I'll be parking my car in a multi storey away from my hotel and will certainly manage that journey to and from inverness on around 2 thirds of a tank of unleaded without giving a thought to stopping or charging once.
Edited by: "Regprentice" 6th Feb
Uncommon.Sense05/02/2020 21:07

What's your point with regards to the original comment? No one spends 11 …What's your point with regards to the original comment? No one spends 11 hours looking for a charger, and charging. A 3-pin socket would have re-charged the battery to almost full from flat in that time. I didn't say there were enough points/sockets, just pointing out how unlikely the claimed story was unless the person driving had no clue about EV's and it was their first day of ownership.


It's both true (search and charge time) and far from unique. You also have to account for the chargers which are in use (sometimes for hours) when you arrive and the ones which don't work. Too many of both.

Please don't try to defend the indefensible: I like the idea of electric cars but the infrastructure simply isn't ready. My available choice of vehicles includes the fabulous Jaguar i-Pace: its range would be many times what I need most of the year but it wouldn't reach my usual holiday destination in Cornwall without a lengthy charging stop and there are zero chargers anywhere near our accomodation; not even the ability to plug into a household socket as there is public space between car and power source.

I believe a plug-in hybrid will be the best compromise for quite some time yet (though Bojo has been told he doesn't like them either!).

We have considered a Zoe to replace my wife's Fiesta but with a new grandchild just beyond a safe round trip distance that one is on hold for now too.
Edited by: "Besford" 6th Feb
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