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Good price for this street shooters’ weapon of choice with the 20% off promotion that runs until today on eBay from cameracentreuk. These have remained stubbornly expensive despite the arrival of the GR iii last year but still seems to hold its own as a street photography camera.
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Big difference compared to gr3?
I am having a dilemma. Have found a good price for the Sony RX100M3 and now torn between that and this.
The initial purpose will be a long travel through SE Asia, so essentially am looking for a travel camera.

Any advice or can anyone sway me?
On the iii the sensor has been upgraded to 24.2 MP from 16.1 and adds image stabilisation. ISO range expanded. It looses the built in flash that the ii has. It also costs £300 more.
Are these cameras massively better that a really good mobile?
John_Woods09/01/2020 13:38

Are these cameras massively better that a really good mobile?


Yes they are
pea_hunter09/01/2020 12:29

On the iii the sensor has been upgraded to 24.2 MP from 16.1 and adds …On the iii the sensor has been upgraded to 24.2 MP from 16.1 and adds image stabilisation. ISO range expanded. It looses the built in flash that the ii has. It also costs £300 more.


Thanks mate
Master0fNone09/01/2020 12:23

I am having a dilemma. Have found a good price for the Sony RX100M3 and …I am having a dilemma. Have found a good price for the Sony RX100M3 and now torn between that and this.The initial purpose will be a long travel through SE Asia, so essentially am looking for a travel camera.Any advice or can anyone sway me?



Hi - if you really want to have a camera that fits in your pocket, then I can offer no suggestions but if you want something really flexible my suggestion is that you look at the Sony DSC-HX400V.

I do take a fair few pictures when I am away and am now on my second 400V. There are two main reasons for this, the fact that it has a 50 times optical zoom and, for me at least, even more important it has a built-in GPS. If you are planning to take a heap of pictures whilst travelling through the likes of Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam then sorting out exactly where you took what is going to be a real pain if not totally impossible without GPS and if you are planning more than snap-shot records this is vital. GPS will allow you to display exactly where, to within a few metres, on Google Maps when you have access.

Lots of folk will say the Sony suffers in low light and I agree but I am guessing that most of your pictures are likely to be taken outside in the sunshine and your indoor ones are more likely to be to have a record rather than "perfect". They will also suggest that such a big zoom will provide soft pictures and this is likely true but when are you going to print your travel pictures larger than A4?

Why have I not upgraded after 6 years to something with a better sensor and overall specification - simply because no one has built GPS into their more recent, better specified cameras. (PLEASE correct me if anyone knows different - thank you)

Sure there are GPS apps out there but they require that you remember to switch on your phone. Great idea in theory until the one time you forget and that will be the one day when you really, really did need your GPS.
Master0fNone09/01/2020 12:23

I am having a dilemma. Have found a good price for the Sony RX100M3 and …I am having a dilemma. Have found a good price for the Sony RX100M3 and now torn between that and this.The initial purpose will be a long travel through SE Asia, so essentially am looking for a travel camera.Any advice or can anyone sway me?


For travel I’d probably go for the Sony RX100 M3. You have more flexibility with the focal length, very pocketable. I had one for a while and when I look back at some the images I regret selling it. I’ve not had the Ricoh for more than a day. I bought one from Amazon but returned it due to a fault but loved the look of the images I took in the garden to test it. Both are good. Another great APS-C sized sensor pocketable camera to consider is the Fuji XF10. (Currys_clearance have a champagne gold ‘opened never used’ XF10 for £258 after the 20% off. )
Edited by: "pea_hunter" 9th Jan
cibarious09/01/2020 14:30

Hi - if you really want to have a camera that fits in your pocket, then I …Hi - if you really want to have a camera that fits in your pocket, then I can offer no suggestions but if you want something really flexible my suggestion is that you look at the Sony DSC-HX400V.I do take a fair few pictures when I am away and am now on my second 400V. There are two main reasons for this, the fact that it has a 50 times optical zoom and, for me at least, even more important it has a built-in GPS. If you are planning to take a heap of pictures whilst travelling through the likes of Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam then sorting out exactly where you took what is going to be a real pain if not totally impossible without GPS and if you are planning more than snap-shot records this is vital. GPS will allow you to display exactly where, to within a few metres, on Google Maps when you have access.Lots of folk will say the Sony suffers in low light and I agree but I am guessing that most of your pictures are likely to be taken outside in the sunshine and your indoor ones are more likely to be to have a record rather than "perfect". They will also suggest that such a big zoom will provide soft pictures and this is likely true but when are you going to print your travel pictures larger than A4?Why have I not upgraded after 6 years to something with a better sensor and overall specification - simply because no one has built GPS into their more recent, better specified cameras. (PLEASE correct me if anyone knows different - thank you)Sure there are GPS apps out there but they require that you remember to switch on your phone. Great idea in theory until the one time you forget and that will be the one day when you really, really did need your GPS.


Hey, thanks for the well thought out reply Some really valid points there, especially around GPS! Having looked at it seems a little bulky for my needs but nonetheless, a really nice piece of kit. Cheers
pea_hunter09/01/2020 14:47

For travel I’d probably go for the Sony RX100 M3. You have more f …For travel I’d probably go for the Sony RX100 M3. You have more flexibility with the focal length, very pocketable. I had one for a while and when I look back at some the images I regret selling it. I’ve not had the Ricoh for more than a day. I bought one from Amazon but returned it due to a fault but loved the look of the images I took in the garden to test it. Both are good. Another great APS-C sized sensor pocketable camera to consider is the Fuji XF10. (Currys_clearance have a champagne gold ‘opened never used’ XF10 for £258 after the 20% off. )


Nice! Yeah, I agree, seems really pocketable and perfect for my needs. It also seems to have excellent low light performance. I love the idea of the Ricoh but since I will be sharing it with my other half, I feel the Rx100.

Do you have any idea about the WiFi transfer? Would it work with ipad?
Master0fNone09/01/2020 15:03

Nice! Yeah, I agree, seems really pocketable and perfect for my needs. It …Nice! Yeah, I agree, seems really pocketable and perfect for my needs. It also seems to have excellent low light performance. I love the idea of the Ricoh but since I will be sharing it with my other half, I feel the Rx100.Do you have any idea about the WiFi transfer? Would it work with ipad?


Yes it should work with your iPad using the Sony app. I used it. All camera manufacturers apps are a bit rubbish and the Sony one seems no better or worse. If you are going to be taking a lot of pics it might be worth buying a SD card reader that attaches to the lightning port on your iPad. The files will transfer a lot faster and if you are shooting RAW rather than JPEG files I don’t think the app transfers RAW files.
pea_hunter09/01/2020 15:29

Yes it should work with your iPad using the Sony app. I used it. All …Yes it should work with your iPad using the Sony app. I used it. All camera manufacturers apps are a bit rubbish and the Sony one seems no better or worse. If you are going to be taking a lot of pics it might be worth buying a SD card reader that attaches to the lightning port on your iPad. The files will transfer a lot faster and if you are shooting RAW rather than JPEG files I don’t think the app transfers RAW files.


Sweet! Was thinking of doing that too many thanks
Master0fNone09/01/2020 12:23

I am having a dilemma. Have found a good price for the Sony RX100M3 and …I am having a dilemma. Have found a good price for the Sony RX100M3 and now torn between that and this.The initial purpose will be a long travel through SE Asia, so essentially am looking for a travel camera.Any advice or can anyone sway me?


Another vote for the RX100 being a more versatile travel camera.

My only gripe with them is I would highly, highly recommend getting a little stick on grip for it as they are slippery as all hell. My old man has been shooting rx100s since the launch of the original and drops them endlessly. Note the plural there - given how much tech and moving parts they cram in to such a tiny body, almost every drop has been fatal to the camera in some way.

I know that sounds bad but don't let it put you off. It is the best pocketable camera money can buy, even when somewhat tenuously counting the GR as pocketable.
I compared the Canon GX7, RX100M3 and the Ricoh GR I, side by side in different situations a few years ago.

Mainly because I thought the fixed 28mm of the Ricoh would leave me missing the zoom reach of the other 2 as a travel camera.

I found the Ricoh images to be so sharp that I could match the zoom by cropping in post without losing any detail.

I still own the Ricoh and have taken thousands of photos with it. It's not perfect, but once I owned one and learned it, it's a camera I never want to sell.

I would love the GRIII for the image stabilisation and higher resolution, but it's too expensive for me.

I'm a big GR fan now, it's a fabulous pocket sized camera for stealth street stuff (especially with snap focus), corner to corner sharpness for landscapes (although it's not as wide as a dedicated DSLR with wide angle glass).

The Sony wins hands down for burst speed, video and better portrait focal length. I took one to Florida for a fortnight in 2014 and the shots looked OK up to around 6 inches, whereas I regularly turn the Ricoh shots to large acrylic prints with amazing details.

They're both great cameras though.
locktheworldout09/01/2020 18:10

I compared the Canon GX7, RX100M3 and the Ricoh GR I, side by side in …I compared the Canon GX7, RX100M3 and the Ricoh GR I, side by side in different situations a few years ago.Mainly because I thought the fixed 28mm of the Ricoh would leave me missing the zoom reach of the other 2 as a travel camera.I found the Ricoh images to be so sharp that I could match the zoom by cropping in post without losing any detail.I still own the Ricoh and have taken thousands of photos with it. It's not perfect, but once I owned one and learned it, it's a camera I never want to sell.I would love the GRIII for the image stabilisation and higher resolution, but it's too expensive for me.I'm a big GR fan now, it's a fabulous pocket sized camera for stealth street stuff (especially with snap focus), corner to corner sharpness for landscapes (although it's not as wide as a dedicated DSLR with wide angle glass).The Sony wins hands down for burst speed, video and better portrait focal length. I took one to Florida for a fortnight in 2014 and the shots looked OK up to around 6 inches, whereas I regularly turn the Ricoh shots to large acrylic prints with amazing details.They're both great cameras though.


Thanks for your input. So you're saying if I wanted to print an image 6" on the RX100M3, it would look just 'ok' and anything beyond wouldn't be worth printing as would lose quality?
In this case, what are the benefits of the RX100M3 against a good camera phone?
cibarious09/01/2020 14:30

Hi - if you really want to have a camera that fits in your pocket, then I …Hi - if you really want to have a camera that fits in your pocket, then I can offer no suggestions but if you want something really flexible my suggestion is that you look at the Sony DSC-HX400V.I do take a fair few pictures when I am away and am now on my second 400V. There are two main reasons for this, the fact that it has a 50 times optical zoom and, for me at least, even more important it has a built-in GPS. If you are planning to take a heap of pictures whilst travelling through the likes of Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam then sorting out exactly where you took what is going to be a real pain if not totally impossible without GPS and if you are planning more than snap-shot records this is vital. GPS will allow you to display exactly where, to within a few metres, on Google Maps when you have access.Lots of folk will say the Sony suffers in low light and I agree but I am guessing that most of your pictures are likely to be taken outside in the sunshine and your indoor ones are more likely to be to have a record rather than "perfect". They will also suggest that such a big zoom will provide soft pictures and this is likely true but when are you going to print your travel pictures larger than A4?Why have I not upgraded after 6 years to something with a better sensor and overall specification - simply because no one has built GPS into their more recent, better specified cameras. (PLEASE correct me if anyone knows different - thank you)Sure there are GPS apps out there but they require that you remember to switch on your phone. Great idea in theory until the one time you forget and that will be the one day when you really, really did need your GPS.


I have the Sony RX10IV. It's a superb camera, with larger sensor, very sharp 600mm lens and extremely fast autofocus with eye AF. It is, however, very expensive, but I picked mine up used, in like new condition, from a UK dealer for £1k. Jessops regularly have 20% discounts on their used stock (Camerajungle). There's no built-in GPS, but I connect it to my phone using Bluetooth and that supplies the GPS coordinates. Not a "street camera" of course, but great for travel.
Master0fNone09/01/2020 18:20

Thanks for your input. So you're saying if I wanted to print an image 6" …Thanks for your input. So you're saying if I wanted to print an image 6" on the RX100M3, it would look just 'ok' and anything beyond wouldn't be worth printing as would lose quality?In this case, what are the benefits of the RX100M3 against a good camera phone?


The RX100 III has a 20 mp sensor, which is 5472 x 3648 pixels. Normally work on 300 pixels per inch (ppi) for best quality, so you can easily print up to 5472/300 = 18 inches. You can print larger by reducing the ppi, as larger prints are normally viewed from further away, so the pixels are less likely to be noticeable. I've owned quite a few "1 inch" sensor cameras, and they definitely print larger than 6 inches.
Edited by: "gazcarts" 9th Jan
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