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I have this (from this Costco offer). Easy to install. Seems to work quite well. Brought some extra door/window contacts from ring.com using the automatic 10% discount once signed in.

Only downside is the three mode buttons on the keypad have cryptic/illegible icons. Have added printed labels for Armed, Disarmed and Night.

Everything is a bit big and plasticky but hardly a dealbreaker.

With the £80/year subscription you get dual path signalling (adds cellular communications to monitoring station in case internet/router power goes down). Also covers cloud recording of Ring cameras and doorbell.
Edited by: "gettingwarmer" 8th Feb
I take it the outside alarm box is batteries??
scottwhittlejunk08/02/2020 21:38

I take it the outside alarm box is batteries??


There isn't an outside alarm box. A control unit for use inside and an alarm box only for inside.
Ring (7) piece

Anyone?
suhayb100908/02/2020 22:14

There isn't an outside alarm box. A control unit for use inside and an …There isn't an outside alarm box. A control unit for use inside and an alarm box only for inside.


So how will the neighbors know someone is in my house ?? Or I'll just be notified that I'm being broken into ??
Just read up on this .. how is this a good product?? Jesus Christ the most useless item I have ever seen ..
scottwhittlejunk08/02/2020 22:37

So how will the neighbors know someone is in my house ?? Or I'll just be …So how will the neighbors know someone is in my house ?? Or I'll just be notified that I'm being broken into ??


When was the last time you went over to check a siren going off at your neighbours? Also the internal siren goes off and it will call your top 3 contacts. If you don't like the product no need to buy. But I think its good value especially if you already have the cameras etc.
DIY stuff, pick up a Pyronix Enforcer kit 3 for not much more than this.
The outside sounder is more there to make noise to deter the burglar, just having internal is pointless.

The three golden rules :- Locks, lights and decent alarm. They will move on to an easier target (generally)
Didn't realise I needed a ring piece alarm but think I might get one anyway
Does it have bluetooth?
SaltyExpert08/02/2020 23:10

DIY stuff, pick up a Pyronix Enforcer kit 3 for not much more than …DIY stuff, pick up a Pyronix Enforcer kit 3 for not much more than this.The outside sounder is more there to make noise to deter the burglar, just having internal is pointless.The three golden rules :- Locks, lights and decent alarm. They will move on to an easier target (generally)


Yep, I second the Pyronix Enforcer alarm. A bit more involving to install. Officially it’s a professional install product but ok if you follow some instructions in forums etc. Many alarm companies install the Enforcer and then stamp their name on the bell box.

The sensors are PIR sensors are battery powered and have around a 2 year life.

I have no idea about this Ring alarm as haven’t tested it. However, I’d be a bit concerned about not having a bell box.

Before I bought the enforcer I bought a ERA Homeguard kit, mainly because its internet connectivity was heavily marketed. A really poor product that I ended up returning.

In essence stick to established well reviewed brands when looking to secure your house.
I disagree. I think an alarm that is also aesthetically pleasing and fits in a space also is important. Granted no bell box. But those alarm units look like they're from the 60s
HHUKD09/02/2020 00:07

Yep, I second the Pyronix Enforcer alarm. A bit more involving to install. …Yep, I second the Pyronix Enforcer alarm. A bit more involving to install. Officially it’s a professional install product but ok if you follow some instructions in forums etc. Many alarm companies install the Enforcer and then stamp their name on the bell box. The sensors are PIR sensors are battery powered and have around a 2 year life. I have no idea about this Ring alarm as haven’t tested it. However, I’d be a bit concerned about not having a bell box. Before I bought the enforcer I bought a ERA Homeguard kit, mainly because its internet connectivity was heavily marketed. A really poor product that I ended up returning. In essence stick to established well reviewed brands when looking to secure your house.




Any links or recommended sites
Google found this
securitywarehouse.co.uk/cat…tml
thinking about Pyronix Enforcer kit 3 but app on google seems to have terrible reviews though..
The noise on the internal box will be heard outside, it should also scare anyone that’s broken in. Plus in partnership with their cameras you could have one inside that activates when the alarm goes off. If you want something visual they do a external solar powered sign that lights up at night to show the property is protected by ring
HHUKD09/02/2020 00:07

Yep, I second the Pyronix Enforcer alarm. A bit more involving to install. …Yep, I second the Pyronix Enforcer alarm. A bit more involving to install. Officially it’s a professional install product but ok if you follow some instructions in forums etc. Many alarm companies install the Enforcer and then stamp their name on the bell box. The sensors are PIR sensors are battery powered and have around a 2 year life. I have no idea about this Ring alarm as haven’t tested it. However, I’d be a bit concerned about not having a bell box. Before I bought the enforcer I bought a ERA Homeguard kit, mainly because its internet connectivity was heavily marketed. A really poor product that I ended up returning. In essence stick to established well reviewed brands when looking to secure your house.


I have owned a Ismart alarm for a couple of years, again no bell box but it uses IFTTT and automatically sets itself at night, this is really useful, no one responds to external alarm bell boxes but these alarms notify you by text if you are out. If you have cameras in the house you can view to ensure all is good and then react to the alarm rather than expect some neighbour to intervene.
doggmeister09/02/2020 05:22

thinking about Pyronix Enforcer kit 3 but app on google seems to have …thinking about Pyronix Enforcer kit 3 but app on google seems to have terrible reviews though..



App works fine, basic but does what it is supposed to. Notifications are rapid too.

Internal sounders, normally easy to locate and easy to rip off the wall, hence why I have internal and external front & rear.
A live external box is a better deterrent too.
Based on Ring’s lack of security and seeming policy of selling their users’ data I wouldn’t touch their products with a barge poll.
PM1309/02/2020 03:26

Any links or recommended sites Google found this …Any links or recommended sites Google found this https://www.securitywarehouse.co.uk/catalog/intruder-alarm-c-36/kits-c-36_62/pyronix-enforcer-kit-3-p-5085.html



I bought my Enforcer from Map Security. I bought some extra PIRs, a keypad (so the main control unit can be hidden away), a dummy box (in addition to a real one) & an SOS keyfob.

My family have different PIN codes so I that I get a notification to my phone when my kids come home from school. It’s a decent bit of kit that I would recommend. The app is a bit basic (there are two actually...you can choose) but it allows you to switch the alarm on an off remotely so that’s all I really need.

The alarm is technically rated as a class 2 for insurance purposes (Google it), these others internet alarms aren’t.

The wireless system is a 2 way system. Effectively this means that the main unit switches the PIRs off when you disarm the alarm. Most DIY alarms don’t have this meaning they are constantly detecting your movement when at home. You’ll notice on many other systems that the led on the battery powered PIRs blinking when you walk in a room.

This is important because a) battery life can be severely compromised b) it avoids the dreaded battery saving features that’s found in other systems (such as PIRs going to sleep for 3 mins after detection).

The Enforcer has a Battery life of two years on all sensors. I’ve just changed mine. I have had zero false alarms in the two years i have had mine. This is important to me as I detest hearing false alarms going off in my local area. My friend’s alarm (typical DIY kit) frequently has false alarms and batteries need to be changed every 6 months.

Note that to use the app on your phone you need to pay for the Pyronix cloud service at about £35 per year. Budget for £40 every 2 years for battery replacement costs.

I would thoroughly recommend the Pyronix Enforcer. Don’t make the mistake I did before doing my research and buy one of the usual DIY brands from B&Q or Argos etc. You feel comfortable buying these brands as you see them around a lot on other peoples houses. This is the reason that we hear lots of false alarms. Get yourself a professional alarm. A lot of local alarm shops install these but with their branding stamped on the bell box. They typically then charge you £100 - £150 per year for the cloud subscription and battery replacement.

Another brand similar to Pyronix is Texecom (Premier Elite I think). There’s always people comparing the two on forums.
Edited by: "HHUKD" 9th Feb
HHUKD09/02/2020 00:07

Yep, I second the Pyronix Enforcer alarm. A bit more involving to install. …Yep, I second the Pyronix Enforcer alarm. A bit more involving to install. Officially it’s a professional install product but ok if you follow some instructions in forums etc. Many alarm companies install the Enforcer and then stamp their name on the bell box. The sensors are PIR sensors are battery powered and have around a 2 year life. I have no idea about this Ring alarm as haven’t tested it. However, I’d be a bit concerned about not having a bell box. Before I bought the enforcer I bought a ERA Homeguard kit, mainly because its internet connectivity was heavily marketed. A really poor product that I ended up returning. In essence stick to established well reviewed brands when looking to secure your house.


What's difference between pyronix enforcer 1 and 3 kits, we were just priced up on the 1 version...
luvadealme09/02/2020 09:43

What's difference between pyronix enforcer 1 and 3 kits, we were just …What's difference between pyronix enforcer 1 and 3 kits, we were just priced up on the 1 version...


The alarm is called Pyronix Enforcer V10. The kits are the same unit but with a different amount of components. Kit 1 has 2 PIRs, kit 3 has 4 PIRs.

KIT 1
KIT 3

Make sure you do a bit of research on fitting the alarm before buying just so that you are comfortable with it. Lots of info on forums etc.
Thanks for the links and info
HHUKD09/02/2020 09:59

The alarm is called Pyronix Enforcer V10. The kits are the same unit but …The alarm is called Pyronix Enforcer V10. The kits are the same unit but with a different amount of components. Kit 1 has 2 PIRs, kit 3 has 4 PIRs. KIT 1KIT 3Make sure you do a bit of research on fitting the alarm before buying just so that you are comfortable with it. Lots of info on forums etc.


I Also highly recommend this, it's a quality proper alarm system. I recommend reading the manual front to back before even attempting to install this, if you have an existing alarm you can hardwire 2 zones into it, and also hardwire the bell box to get the alternative LEDs flashing on the bell box
Just looking at this Ring system and it seems that it is reviewed well. I’m sure that’s based on the user experience of using the app etc rather than a proper break-in stress test.

Without an external bell it seems the easiest way to disable this would be to snip the telephone line before breaking in (most are easily accessible). Without an internet / phone connection it’s unable to notify anyone of the break-in. With no external bell to worry about the burglar can then takes his time to silence the internal bell.

I love my gadgets and really appreciate a well built user friendly app that does what it’s meant to. However, when it comes to home alarms I’ve come to the conclusion that robustness and proper security should be top of your list. Unfortunately some of the best alarm companies don’t have the budget to produce that super slick phone app.

No house alarm is perfect but it needs to be able to secure your house well. It also needs to be reliable. Just a few false alarms will get complaints from your neighbours (rightly so). You’ll then end up not setting it.
HHUKD09/02/2020 09:39

I bought my Enforcer from Map Security. I bought some extra PIRs, a keypad …I bought my Enforcer from Map Security. I bought some extra PIRs, a keypad (so the main control unit can be hidden away), a dummy box (in addition to a real one) & an SOS keyfob. My family have different PIN codes so I that I get a notification to my phone when my kids come home from school. It’s a decent bit of kit that I would recommend. The app is a bit basic (there are two actually...you can choose) but it allows you to switch the alarm on an off remotely so that’s all I really need. The alarm is technically rated as a class 2 for insurance purposes (Google it), these others internet alarms aren’t. The wireless system is a 2 way system. Effectively this means that the main unit switches the PIRs off when you disarm the alarm. Most DIY alarms don’t have this meaning they are constantly detecting your movement when at home. You’ll notice on many other systems that the led on the battery powered PIRs blinking when you walk in a room. This is important because a) battery life can be severely compromised b) it avoids the dreaded battery saving features that’s found in other systems (such as PIRs going to sleep for 3 mins after detection). The Enforcer has a Battery life of two years on all sensors. I’ve just changed mine. I have had zero false alarms in the two years i have had mine. This is important to me as I detest hearing false alarms going off in my local area. My friend’s alarm (typical DIY kit) frequently has false alarms and batteries need to be changed every 6 months. Note that to use the app on your phone you need to pay for the Pyronix cloud service at about £35 per year. Budget for £40 every 2 years for battery replacement costs. I would thoroughly recommend the Pyronix Enforcer. Don’t make the mistake I did before doing my research and buy one of the usual DIY brands from B&Q or Argos etc. You feel comfortable buying these brands as you see them around a lot on other peoples houses. This is the reason that we hear lots of false alarms. Get yourself a professional alarm. A lot of local alarm shops install these but with their branding stamped on the bell box. They typically then charge you £100 - £150 per year for the cloud subscription and battery replacement. Another brand similar to Pyronix is Texecom (Premier Elite I think). There’s always people comparing the two on forums.



Good post, spot on info there. The only bit slighly wrong is its grade 2 (or ungraded depending on how you clean start it)
Luckily for me I only pay £10+vat a year for the Pyronix Cloud service, this is free for the first year too.

The Texecom Premier Elite is also popular, but need more experience installing these than you would an Enforcer, the Texecom uses mesh technology between sensors so signal strength is like boosted between devices, their app is free to use.
HHUKD09/02/2020 12:41

Just looking at this Ring system and it seems that it is reviewed well. …Just looking at this Ring system and it seems that it is reviewed well. I’m sure that’s based on the user experience of using the app etc rather than a proper break-in stress test.Without an external bell it seems the easiest way to disable this would be to snip the telephone line before breaking in (most are easily accessible). Without an internet / phone connection it’s unable to notify anyone of the break-in. With no external bell to worry about the burglar can then takes his time to silence the internal bell. I love my gadgets and really appreciate a well built user friendly app that does what it’s meant to. However, when it comes to home alarms I’ve come to the conclusion that robustness and proper security should be top of your list. Unfortunately some of the best alarm companies don’t have the budget to produce that super slick phone app. No house alarm is perfect but it needs to be able to secure your house well. It also needs to be reliable. Just a few false alarms will get complaints from your neighbours (rightly so). You’ll then end up not setting it.



Another good post, phone lines becoming a thing of the past now luckily and most new installs we do use dual sim communication devices to the alarm receiving centre if required.
My broadband is 4G and my alarm connects WiFi so apart from some fancy jammer, it's pretty secure without the need for costly monitoring fees.
Edited by: "SaltyExpert" 9th Feb
SaltyExpert09/02/2020 16:08

Good post, spot on info there. The only bit slighly wrong is its grade 2 …Good post, spot on info there. The only bit slighly wrong is its grade 2 (or ungraded depending on how you clean start it) Luckily for me I only pay £10+vat a year for the Pyronix Cloud service, this is free for the first year too.The Texecom Premier Elite is also popular, but need more experience installing these than you would an Enforcer, the Texecom uses mesh technology between sensors so signal strength is like boosted between devices, their app is free to use.


Nice info on the Texecom and the mesh technology used.

The Enforcer is sold as a Security Grade 2 alarm by Pyronix. Check out the pic.


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For others reading this (not you SaltyExpert) here’s a bit on alarm grades:

Most DIY install alarms are ungraded, this keeps them cheap. If you go down the ‘professional’ route then they will likely be given a Security Grading. An alarm’s Grade refers to its ability to meet UK and European Standards on intruder alarms (described in BS EN 50131).

Here’s some info I’ve nicked off the internet to clarify.

Grade 1: This alarm system can fend off opportunistic burglars with no specialist equipment or knowledge of the alarm system. Alarms that fall into the Grade 1 category are ones that only protect the most obvious entry points, such as the front door. This level of alarm is suitable for properties with few items of value and a low risk of burglary.

Grade 2: Can resist intruders with knowledge of the alarm system and a general range of equipment. These systems protect core entry points, such as front doors and windows, as well as the home’s interior. A Grade 2 alarm is appropriate for flats, houses and offices.

Grade 3: A more sophisticated system with the capability of defending a property from intruders with expert knowledge of the alarm system and specialist tools. Grade 3’s protect large premises with many entry points, so they are well suited to commercial properties like shopping centres and warehouses

Grade 4: A top end alarm system that can protect a property against professional burglars with in-depth knowledge of an alarm system and a full range of tools and resources. Any premises requiring a Grade 4 alarm is the type to be targeted by a team of criminals, so think banks and embassies.
Edited by: "HHUKD" 9th Feb
HHUKD09/02/2020 16:58

Nice info on the Texecom and the mesh technology used. The Enforcer is …Nice info on the Texecom and the mesh technology used. The Enforcer is sold as a Security Grade 2 alarm by Pyronix. Check out the pic.[Image]


39870907-OANdk.jpgYes, can be grade 2 or ungraded.
I'm a thirty year veteran in the security systems industry
SaltyExpert09/02/2020 17:02

[Image] Yes, can be grade 2 or ungraded.I'm a thirty year veteran in the …[Image] Yes, can be grade 2 or ungraded.I'm a thirty year veteran in the security systems industry


What else would you recommend apart from this?
suhayb100909/02/2020 20:02

What else would you recommend apart from this?


Depends what level security you are looking for, also self install or looking at advice if getting quotes from a company?
SaltyExpert09/02/2020 20:06

Depends what level security you are looking for, also self install or …Depends what level security you are looking for, also self install or looking at advice if getting quotes from a company?


Well I wouldn't mind a self install. I think I'd be fairly competent at an install. Need wireless and mainly to secure the ground floor.
suhayb100909/02/2020 20:07

Well I wouldn't mind a self install. I think I'd be fairly competent at an …Well I wouldn't mind a self install. I think I'd be fairly competent at an install. Need wireless and mainly to secure the ground floor.


This then, easier than a Texecom in my opinion, and a cut above the DIY Yale/Ring etc stuff.
Really is worth the extra money.
There's Visonic kit out there that some people rate, but never been a fan myself.

A company called Orisec are getting very good reviews from the pros, but they really only sell to registered installers I believe.

What's your doubts on the Enforcer?
SaltyExpert09/02/2020 20:17

This then, easier than a Texecom in my opinion, and a cut above the DIY …This then, easier than a Texecom in my opinion, and a cut above the DIY Yale/Ring etc stuff.Really is worth the extra money.There's Visonic kit out there that some people rate, but never been a fan myself.A company called Orisec are getting very good reviews from the pros, but they really only sell to registered installers I believe.What's your doubts on the Enforcer?


They don't seem to provide aftercare support unless you get a professional install. Also the kit looks somewhat incomplete; doesn't have backing plate etc and fascia? Not sure if it's a full kit. Also it's a large unit. Is there a smaller control panel included?
suhayb100909/02/2020 20:27

They don't seem to provide aftercare support unless you get a professional …They don't seem to provide aftercare support unless you get a professional install. Also the kit looks somewhat incomplete; doesn't have backing plate etc and fascia? Not sure if it's a full kit. Also it's a large unit. Is there a smaller control panel included?


Whoever you buy it from should be able to offer support, not that I think you'll need it.
True you have to buy an external sounder backplate and cover, £8 each maybe (I'd have to check)
As for the panel size, they're really not that big. But yes you can buy separate keypads (or arming stations as they call them) or radio keyfob to arm/part arm/disarm that also can be used for panic buttons. Photo of panel with random kiwi fruit for size reference
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SaltyExpert09/02/2020 20:37

Whoever you buy it from should be able to offer support, not that I think …Whoever you buy it from should be able to offer support, not that I think you'll need it.True you have to buy an external sounder backplate and cover, £8 each maybe (I'd have to check)As for the panel size, they're really not that big. But yes you can buy separate keypads (or arming stations as they call them) or radio keyfob to arm/part arm/disarm that also can be used for panic buttons. Photo of panel with random kiwi fruit for size reference [Image]


Looks great. Do you have a comprehensive online guide for installation or are there many YouTube videos already available for this sort of stuff?
suhayb100910/02/2020 15:10

Looks great. Do you have a comprehensive online guide for installation or …Looks great. Do you have a comprehensive online guide for installation or are there many YouTube videos already available for this sort of stuff?


Forgot, you can always use the app to arm/disarm it.

If you Google it there's manuals online for you to peruse before purchasing it, there's the installation, programming and user manual to have a read of.
Not looked in YouTube as never needed to but with it being so popular I'd imagine so.

Just search Pyronix Enforcer V10
SaltyExpert10/02/2020 15:31

Forgot, you can always use the app to arm/disarm it.If you Google it …Forgot, you can always use the app to arm/disarm it.If you Google it there's manuals online for you to peruse before purchasing it, there's the installation, programming and user manual to have a read of.Not looked in YouTube as never needed to but with it being so popular I'd imagine so.Just search Pyronix Enforcer V10


What happens if your wifi fails? Is there a GSM sim option available? Thanks for your help btw. This is really useful.
suhayb100910/02/2020 15:59

What happens if your wifi fails? Is there a GSM sim option available? …What happens if your wifi fails? Is there a GSM sim option available? Thanks for your help btw. This is really useful.


Aye apologies for the thread hijack OP

Just wifi out of the box, older ones used to come with GSM module, GSM can lose signal though, so no point worrying about 'what if' really.
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