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Posted 17th Mar
This reduced price has been out for a while but is much more paletable than the original £1250.

Great quality DAC. What Hi-Fi only gave it 3 stars due to its original high price. But at this price I think this would have easily scored 5 stars.

I currently use this in my home av system for the better sound quality and the fact I only have a 2.0 system and have been very happy with sound quality so far.
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tempt6 m ago

It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio …It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio world. Modern day DACs are rated 32 bit / 348 khz.


Perfectly fine for ripped lossless CDs or as a dac for a CD transport.

Higher bit rates are SACD and DVDA which arent really popular.

It's def not what I'd call 720p for the audio world!
ScoobyZ17/03/2019 19:47

Roksan kandy. Might be worth spending a bit more on a brand


Clearly you don't know audio brands that well then...
tempt17/03/2019 18:36

It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio …It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio world. Modern day DACs are rated 32 bit / 348 khz.


But would your ears be able to tell the difference?
I'd genuinely like to know where anyone obtains or uses 32bit audio files with full 32bit content, outside of a recording studio.
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It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio world. Modern day DACs are rated 32 bit / 348 khz.

The internals look sparse, a transformer and a PCB board which only occupies one half of the unit.


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Edited by: "tempt" 17th Mar
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tempt6 m ago

It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio …It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio world. Modern day DACs are rated 32 bit / 348 khz.


Perfectly fine for ripped lossless CDs or as a dac for a CD transport.

Higher bit rates are SACD and DVDA which arent really popular.

It's def not what I'd call 720p for the audio world!
tempt17/03/2019 18:36

It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio …It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio world. Modern day DACs are rated 32 bit / 348 khz.


But would your ears be able to tell the difference?
tempt26 m ago

It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio …It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio world. Modern day DACs are rated 32 bit / 348 khz.


This is untrue. Sound quality between 24 bit and 32bit has not really been proven conclusively to provide a noticeable change in quality. It reduces the theoritcal noise levels but since most CDs are recorded at 16bit and the fact very little content is actually 32 bit encoded it just makes no sense in a daily use case scenario. The Texas instruments DSD1794A DAC chip is more than capable as is the device itself if you research it.
tempt25 m ago

yes


I don't think so, I've got a TEAC UD-501 which does 32 bit from USB and 24 bit from Optical and I can't tell the difference.
Roksan kandy. Might be worth spending a bit more on a brand
ScoobyZ17/03/2019 19:47

Roksan kandy. Might be worth spending a bit more on a brand


Clearly you don't know audio brands that well then...
N.T17/03/2019 19:49

Clearly you don't know audio brands that well then...


Hmm, you don't appear to recognise humour.

Or maybe I see it where it doesn't exist.
worthinger17/03/2019 19:53

Hmm, you don't appear to recognise humour.Or maybe I see it where it …Hmm, you don't appear to recognise humour.Or maybe I see it where it doesn't exist.


don't do it
tempt17/03/2019 19:55

don't do it


Too late.

It's a high bit rate DSD challenge.
Good price drop.
Supports up to DSD128 as well.
Edited by: "rev6" 17th Mar
worthinger17/03/2019 19:56

Too late.It's a high bit rate DSD challenge.


The human eye can only see at 30fps. All frame rates higher are a waste of money. *grabs popcorn*
N.T1 m ago

The human eye can only see at 30fps. All frame rates higher are a waste of …The human eye can only see at 30fps. All frame rates higher are a waste of money. *grabs popcorn*


Mind the penis in the popcorn.
I'd genuinely like to know where anyone obtains or uses 32bit audio files with full 32bit content, outside of a recording studio.
tempt1 h, 48 m ago

yes



It's true, they would. Because if the file has the full 32bit of dynamic range (i.e. difference between quietest sound and loudest sound) those ears would likely be damaged or deaf.
tempt2 h, 9 m ago

It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio …It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio world. Modern day DACs are rated 32 bit / 348 khz.The internals look sparse, a transformer and a PCB board which only occupies one half of the unit. [Image]


Surely the quality of the components is what matters in this situation not the size of the pcb in relation to the volume of the case?

And I would be more likely to complain if there was no power transformer included than that there is one.

The need for these types of product are purely subjective - each person spends their money as they wish. If you are a dac using individual this may well represent a step up from a a Cambridge Audio or similar.

Anyway. Over and out on this subject.
£1300 on richer
I am very new into this. Could you help me to understand
1- what's is the difference between Hi-Fi mega sound and this amplifier?
2- Hi-Fi usually described PMPO or RMS and easy to understand. Why some of the speakers described ohm.
3- why some people like hifi? And some people love amplifier with Mission individual sound box?
tempt3 h, 16 m ago

It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio …It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio world. Modern day DACs are rated 32 bit / 348 khz.The internals look sparse, a transformer and a PCB board which only occupies one half of the unit. [Image]


To be fair the case size is so it matches the amp and cd player perfectly, they could have made it smaller but then wouldn't sit as nice in the rack
piyal200117/03/2019 21:23

I am very new into this. Could you help me to understand 1- what's is the …I am very new into this. Could you help me to understand 1- what's is the difference between Hi-Fi mega sound and this amplifier? 2- Hi-Fi usually described PMPO or RMS and easy to understand. Why some of the speakers described ohm.3- why some people like hifi? And some people love amplifier with Mission individual sound box?


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piyal200117/03/2019 21:23

I am very new into this. Could you help me to understand 1- what's is the …I am very new into this. Could you help me to understand 1- what's is the difference between Hi-Fi mega sound and this amplifier? 2- Hi-Fi usually described PMPO or RMS and easy to understand. Why some of the speakers described ohm.3- why some people like hifi? And some people love amplifier with Mission individual sound box?


1) no idea what hi-fi megasound is. This isn't an amplifier. It's an digital audio converter it doesn't provide a powered output to power speakers.
2)PMPO and RMS is related to power output, again this is not relevant to this product as it is not designed to power externals just transmit audio signals to a preamp or amp or powered speakers.
3) I can't really understand that. Perhaps you mean all in one hi-fi systems vs multi staged audio systems. And the reason is multistaged systems allows added flexibility and potential overall quality.
Edited by: "N.T" 17th Mar
The innards might be half the size of the actual case but it would look stupid if it didn't take the typical size of a hifi unit... things need to be the same size ideally....plus you failed to mention that it has a lovely toroidal transformer.
tempt1 h, 7 m ago

[Image]


I'm still undecided if your first post is serious or trolling.

Either way, pot and kettle spring to mind!
tempt4 h, 28 m ago

It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio …It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio world. Modern day DACs are rated 32 bit / 348 khz.The internals look sparse, a transformer and a PCB board which only occupies one half of the unit. [Image]


Those internals say it all
tempt17/03/2019 18:36

It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio …It can decode only upto 24 bit / 192 khz which is like 720p in the audio world. Modern day DACs are rated 32 bit / 348 khz.The internals look sparse, a transformer and a PCB board which only occupies one half of the unit. [Image]



mojo-audio.com/blo…on/

....
tempt1 h, 23 m ago

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You can be sarcastic - that's normal. But its simply impolite and impatience.
N.T1 h, 15 m ago

1) no idea what hi-fi megasound is. This isn't an amplifier. It's an …1) no idea what hi-fi megasound is. This isn't an amplifier. It's an digital audio converter it doesn't provide a powered output to power speakers.2)PMPO and RMS is related to power output, again this is not relevant to this product as it is not designed to power externals just transmit audio signals to a preamp or amp or powered speakers.3) I can't really understand that. Perhaps you mean all in one hi-fi systems vs multi staged audio systems. And the reason is multistaged systems allows added flexibility and potential overall quality.


Thank you kindly. Point -3 explained everything.
Cold because a receiver does this. I dont really understand why anyone would buy a separate dac
FunkiestMonkey18/03/2019 06:55

Cold because a receiver does this. I dont really understand why anyone …Cold because a receiver does this. I dont really understand why anyone would buy a separate dac



I chose a DAC over AV receiver because I have a 2.0 system, I want to listen to music on it as well as movies and TV. Hence this would make more sense and provide better sound quality for a 2.0 system. Also, many receivers don't convert digital to analogue as well... So there's that
N.T18/03/2019 08:05

I chose a DAC over AV receiver because I have a 2.0 system, I want to …I chose a DAC over AV receiver because I have a 2.0 system, I want to listen to music on it as well as movies and TV. Hence this would make more sense and provide better sound quality for a 2.0 system. Also, many receivers don't convert digital to analogue as well... So there's that


Receivers dont convert digital to analogue? How do they nake sound then?
FunkiestMonkey32 m ago

Receivers dont convert digital to analogue? How do they nake sound then?



Maybe they just mean stereo amplifiers don't have a DAC like this petertyson.co.uk/pio…ver

Surely it needs a DAC for Bluetooth but I mean Optical/USB IN.
Edited by: "rev6" 18th Mar
N.T17/03/2019 20:04

The human eye can only see at 30fps. All frame rates higher are a waste of …The human eye can only see at 30fps. All frame rates higher are a waste of money. *grabs popcorn*


Not true, the human eye response rate is incredible but let down by slow visual processing. The main problem is sorting all this visual information quickly, which is why humans suffer badly from pop up, i.e. not seeing your nose even though it's always there or your car keys know your desk in front of you.
kester7618/03/2019 13:08

Not true, the human eye response rate is incredible but let down by slow …Not true, the human eye response rate is incredible but let down by slow visual processing. The main problem is sorting all this visual information quickly, which is why humans suffer badly from pop up, i.e. not seeing your nose even though it's always there or your car keys know your desk in front of you.


I was kidding bud that guy was saying something about my lacking sense of humour
Horrorwood14 h, 32 m ago

https://www.mojo-audio.com/blog/the-24bit-delusion/....


Not keen on articles like this as they miss out the basic reasons. Main one being we bump up 8bits at a time because it's easier to process processor wise. Also the higher the bit depth the louder you can go without losing information and it allows for a smoother finish on the resulting wave. To the electronics all it is an ac voltage level which is raised higher or lower between a range, the speed of how fast it does this limits the maximum frequency.
N.T33 m ago

I was kidding bud that guy was saying something about my lacking sense of …I was kidding bud that guy was saying something about my lacking sense of humour


Oh
If I purchase this, does it work without having to put on the red light?
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