Ryzen 2700x CPU Cheapest pre-order I've seen £279.99 @ CCLOnline
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Ryzen 2700x CPU Cheapest pre-order I've seen £279.99 @ CCLOnline

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Found 14th Apr
Spotted this last night, seems to be free delivery too. Surprised it hasn't be posted yet.
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Seriously who preorders a cpu?
This is going to prove to be pretty amazing value.
8 cores next year will be £150ish
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robodan91840 m ago

Seriously who preorders a cpu?



AMD fanboys mainly, judging by the subreddit.
taras14th Apr

8 cores next year will be £150ish


8 cores will be £20 in 10 years, used on eBay!
robodan9181 h, 51 m ago

Seriously who preorders a cpu?


We know AMD can deliver, why not?
Its not like they have doubled its price and made unavailable for 3 months.
taras1 h, 44 m ago

8 cores next year will be £150ish


What are you talking about, 8 core bulldozer is already £80. Unless of course you mean ryzen 8 core will be £150 next year in which case bore off lol.
7800gtman42 m ago

What are you talking about, 8 core bulldozer is already £80. Unless of …What are you talking about, 8 core bulldozer is already £80. Unless of course you mean ryzen 8 core will be £150 next year in which case bore off lol.



you can get the fx8320 for £89.19 .. but seriously yes i meant the ryzen 3k series .. so yeah i will bore off
How does this compare to the 8700k when it comes to video encoding / editing?
pcworld.com/art…e=2


Never a good idea to pre-order
Edited by: "MisterFresh1980" 14th Apr
I've seen gametests, only 4% faster, than the 1800X in games, so even an i5-6600K faster in most of games lol...
FLAME!
MisterFresh19801 h, 13 m ago

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3176100/computers/amd-ryzen-7-1700-vs-a-5-year-old-gaming-pc-or-why-you-should-never-preorder.html?page=2Never a good idea to pre-order


I have a 3570k and mate has a ryzen 1600, both using 290x 4gb cards. His performance is clearly better than mine in PUBG for example. No doubt the 3570k is still solid, but the ryzen chips are blood great.
Naith1 h, 38 m ago

How does this compare to the 8700k when it comes to video encoding / …How does this compare to the 8700k when it comes to video encoding / editing?


errr faster ... 33636213-difHF.jpg
londonstinks51 m ago

I have a 3570k and mate has a ryzen 1600, both using 290x 4gb cards. His …I have a 3570k and mate has a ryzen 1600, both using 290x 4gb cards. His performance is clearly better than mine in PUBG for example. No doubt the 3570k is still solid, but the ryzen chips are blood great.


That's one game, but in majority of games the 3570K overclocked would be slightly better.
Edited by: "DrTraktor" 14th Apr
DrTraktor16 m ago

That's one game, but in majority of games the 3570K overclocked would be …That's one game, but in majority of games the 3570K overclocked would be slightly better.


Well my mates Ryzen 5 1600X is faster than my Core i7 3770K in a few newer games,and that is after doing a few tests using my GTX1080 swapped between both rigs. Maybe with games based on oldish engines it might be different though.
Edited by: "KITTYBOTS" 14th Apr
Have you tried to overclock your cpu above 4GHz? If that is true, and the 6 core RYZEN is superior to 4 core i7, why still the 7700K on the top of the ladder yet?
DrTraktor20 m agoThat's one game, but in majority of games the 3570K overclocked would be slightly better.


I'm not disagreeing, but keep in mind there will be a bit of a split between new and older releases. More recent games are making much better use of multi-core CPU resources, and will continue to do so. Already the 6 core chips have a notable advantage in over the quad cores in many of the big titles, so I would expect a higher core count CPU to be a slightly better long term purchase.

Having a deficiency of available threads to allocate game processes seems to be worse than a slight deficiency in max single core throughput. Single core speed gives you the greatest top and average framerates, but having many threads available seems to give more a consistent and smooth performance.
Edited by: "GurtTractor" 14th Apr
DrTraktor7 m ago

Have you tried to overclock your cpu above 4GHz? If that is true, and the …Have you tried to overclock your cpu above 4GHz? If that is true, and the 6 core RYZEN is superior to 4 core i7, why still the 7700K on the top of the ladder yet?


My 3570k is 4.3ghz, also tested Planteside 2 , his was faster.
This is why i've chosen i7-8700 with a slight BCLK overclock, when the price was dropped to 220 on amazon.
Because obviously more future proof. Still i say, these ryzens are weaker in games, than most 4 core i7's.
This will change obviously soon, because now even the intel is on the "cheap" 6 core+ train for consumers.

GurtTractor55 m ago

DrTraktor20 m agoThat's one game, but in majority of games the 3570K …DrTraktor20 m agoThat's one game, but in majority of games the 3570K overclocked would be slightly better.I'm not disagreeing, but keep in mind there will be a bit of a split between new and older releases. More recent games are making much better use of multi-core CPU resources, and will continue to do so. Already the 6 core chips have a notable advantage in over the quad cores in many of the big titles, so I would expect a higher core count CPU to be a slightly better long term purchase. Having a deficiency of available threads to allocate game processes seems to be worse than a slight deficiency in max single core throughput. Single core speed gives you the greatest top and average framerates, but having many threads available seems to give more a consistent and smooth performance.

Edited by: "DrTraktor" 14th Apr
MisterFresh19802 h, 45 m ago

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3176100/computers/amd-ryzen-7-1700-vs-a-5-year-old-gaming-pc-or-why-you-should-never-preorder.html?page=2Never a good idea to pre-order


Thats just gaming tho and its been the case for what, 6 years? Everybody knows you dont upgrade the cpu for gaming (unless, as it seems there are lots of, gamers still running 720p)
Thats the GPU market.

What the Ryzen chips can do is match intel cpus at modern resolutions (games) WHILE encoding video. imo thats worth a pre-order
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Obviously we need to wait for full reviews to validate this, but that's a pretty awesome jump in stock performance right there. I think to get the full benefit of Precision Boost 2 you will need an X470 board, though I think I heard that it might also be available on certain capable X370s should the manufacturer add it via a BIOS update. We will have to wait and see on that one.
robodan9186 h, 14 m ago

Seriously who preorders a cpu?


Seriously who keeps asking the same question on different threads?
MisterFresh19803 h, 4 m ago

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3176100/computers/amd-ryzen-7-1700-vs-a-5-year-old-gaming-pc-or-why-you-should-never-preorder.html?page=2Never a good idea to pre-order


Horrific popups from the site.
GurtTractor9 m ago

[Image] Obviously we need to wait for full reviews to validate this, but …[Image] Obviously we need to wait for full reviews to validate this, but that's a pretty awesome jump in stock performance right there. I think to get the full benefit of Precision Boost 2 you will need an X470 board, though I think I heard that it might also be available on certain capable X370s should the manufacturer add it via a BIOS update. We will have to wait and see on that one.


Graph shows nothing. No x-axis!
DrTraktor47 m ago

Have you tried to overclock your cpu above 4GHz? If that is true, and the …Have you tried to overclock your cpu above 4GHz? If that is true, and the 6 core RYZEN is superior to 4 core i7, why still the 7700K on the top of the ladder yet?


I tested it in a few games with a GTX1080,the same with the Ryzen 5 1600X and yes it is mildly overclocked just like the Ryzen 5 1600X which was with 2933MHZ DDR4. These were mostly newer games though,I can't say for ones based on very old engines,where Intel will most likely just be better optimised for,but TBH I have not looked.

I assume you are also talking about the Core i7 6700K/7700K with three generations IPC improvements(Haswell,Broadwell and Coffee Lake),a much improved memory controller which can support higher speed RAM and generally higher clockspeeds due to a more refined process. There are plenty of games were a Core i7 7700K and Core i7 8700K at 5GHZ are still quite close.
londonstinks40 m ago

My 3570k is 4.3ghz, also tested Planteside 2 , his was faster.


Thanks for mentioning that - I also play Planetside 2,so good to hear Ryzen is better than Ivy Bridge in that too. I am a bit surprised since I thought it didn't thread well,but apparently maybe there have some been updates.
Scottc12313 m ago

Graph shows nothing. No x-axis!


There isn't an x-axis as such, it's representing the clockspeed boosts across all the threads from the CPU. So 16 dots for 16 threads. The slide is for reviewers, so hasn't really been made for the average consumer to understand I guess.
DrTraktor1 h, 57 m ago

That's one game, but in majority of games the 3570K overclocked would be …That's one game, but in majority of games the 3570K overclocked would be slightly better.


Let me guess, you own a 3570k an you're one of those "my 5+ year old CPU is still the best guys".

4 core chips without hyper-threading are beginning to have some serious problems in modern titles. In modern titles the 2700x will stomp a 3570k, in older titles it's going to be pushing 140+ FPS anyway or be GPU bound.
Another thing to consider is the Wraith Prism cooler that comes with the 2700x, looks decently beefy. I already have a big Noctua cooler, so I'll just sell the Prism on for a little back. Worth thinking about anyway, 2700x looks like the best deal to me.
Edited by: "GurtTractor" 14th Apr
GurtTractor53 m ago

There isn't an x-axis as such, it's representing the clockspeed boosts …There isn't an x-axis as such, it's representing the clockspeed boosts across all the threads from the CPU. So 16 dots for 16 threads. The slide is for reviewers, so hasn't really been made for the average consumer to understand I guess.


I'm not an average consumer, I'm a scientist who knows how to draw graphs. Thanks for the explanation. There is an x-axis, which should be numbered and labelled as number of threads.
Edited by: "Scottc123" 14th Apr
I agree. Just explaining why they might not have labelled it as such, and that it's not correct that it 'shows nothing'. Will be interesting to see the reviews, and how much reality matches up with that.
Hiei_Striker56 m ago

Let me guess, you own a 3570k an you're one of those "my 5+ year old CPU …Let me guess, you own a 3570k an you're one of those "my 5+ year old CPU is still the best guys". 4 core chips without hyper-threading are beginning to have some serious problems in modern titles. In modern titles the 2700x will stomp a 3570k, in older titles it's going to be pushing 140+ FPS anyway or be GPU bound.


Nope, i have an i7-8700 with BCLK overclock, but i see the tests, even the 2700X about 4% faster in games, than the previuos 1800X, which is still under a good overclocked i5's fps in most of games. IMHO. No argument here.
Edited by: "DrTraktor" 14th Apr
I had a 6 year old 2500k ... Got a ryzen 1600. Games at 1440p show a big improvement in min FPS and stability in frame rate. I think that gets lost sometimes in comparisons. The i5 was at 80 to 90% use with the ryzen barely going above 40% use in games on all cores ... fans noise and temp much lower using same after market cooler. Shane optimising of older games not possible. The wraith cooler is rubbish for overclockin noisy and high temps.
Edited by: "Hredknapp" 14th Apr
Average FPS isn't a great indicator of the user experience, and more cores will often give a smoother, less stuttery experience in many modern games. From the up to date benchmarks that I've seen, the games that have the 4 core i5s beating the Ryzens have been more of the exception. On average an 8 core Ryzen is no worse anyway, take the 16 game average from here -

youtu.be/PoE…766

At the launch so it's a little more outdated now, as optimisations and more thread-hungry games have been released which would further favour Ryzen, but even here you can see that they're not really any worse than the i5s.

The 6 core i5s are certainly much a much better bet for solid performance, and something like the 8400 or 8700k will certainly be better for today's games than a Ryzen right now (gap might close with these new ones). But in my experience of using Ryzen, one of the wonderful benefits of it is that there's pretty much always a spare thread to handle whatever, the system never bogs down. Having more cores definitely helps with things like streaming and other background processes.

In terms of value it's really looking good versus the 8700k, which is more expensive, has fewer cores, less PCIE IIRC, has a non-soldered IHS for worse thermals, doesn't come with a beefy box cooler, and needs a more expensive motherboard in order to be able to overclock. Apart from all that both are great options, just depends on your usage. Awesome that we have good competition now.
Can't see it available now. Just the 2700
Currently running 3570k and a gtx 480 plays every thing at 1080 ill upgrade to 4k 2020
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mrsusan744 h, 58 m ago

Can't see it available now. Just the 2700



Aye, just had a look. 2700X and 2600 are no longer listed. Must be out of their allocation of stock already.

On the brightside, Amazon had/have the 8700K going for £281.
robodan91814th Apr

Seriously who preorders a cpu?



Usually people who want it, but it's not out yet
PhattyHUKD14 h, 42 m ago

Aye, just had a look. 2700X and 2600 are no longer listed. Must be out of …Aye, just had a look. 2700X and 2600 are no longer listed. Must be out of their allocation of stock already. On the brightside, Amazon had/have the 8700K going for £281.


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Ebuyer aren't the only company to discontinue products if they run out of stock... Its an easy way to solve issues
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taras15th Apr

[Image] Ebuyer aren't the only company to discontinue products if they run …[Image] Ebuyer aren't the only company to discontinue products if they run out of stock... Its an easy way to solve issues



It's back up on their site now at least.
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