Ryzen 3 2200G  with Wraith Stealth Cooler and RX Vega Graphics - Black £79.99 @ Amazon
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Ryzen 3 2200G with Wraith Stealth Cooler and RX Vega Graphics - Black £79.99 @ Amazon

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Found 21st Mar
Ryzen 3 with onboard Vega 8 graphics. Was £90

The 2400g is also reduced by £10 but this is the best bang for the buck, as it were
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good price but i had so many driver issues with this cpu, i would get a random bsod every single day
andreas00136 m ago

good price but i had so many driver issues with this cpu, i would get a …good price but i had so many driver issues with this cpu, i would get a random bsod every single day


What would you recommend instead in the same price range, mate ?
Is your motherboard fully up to date firmware wise?
Amazing value for money. Just a shame, as andreas0013 says, the driver support is pretty bad right now. No idea why you can't download the drivers from the main drivers page and have to go to a different page to all other AMD products: amd.com/en/…00g
PatrickStar4 m ago

What would you recommend instead in the same price range, mate ?


if you have a dedicated gpu then go ahead with this as i only had problems when using the ln board graphics. There isn't any other apu that compares to this unfortunately
PatrickStar38 m ago

What would you recommend instead in the same price range, mate ?



If you have a dedicated gpu, then I’d say just pay a little extra for an intel i3 8100 or the Ryzen 3 1300X (if Intel’s motherboards scare you)

But if you plan to use the onboard gpu... nothing compares to this
TechEpiphany on YT,tests Intel and AMD integrated graphics,and has a whole load of videos testing the Ryzen 3 2200G in modern games:


No issues with my 2200G
I built both my son's Pc's on this processor and it has been stable. Good value for money (and I paid £90!) .
now if hp would make a microserver out of this

for me i want the ge version (aka 35w )
taras6 m ago

now if hp would make a microserver out of thisfor me i want the ge version …now if hp would make a microserver out of thisfor me i want the ge version (aka 35w )


Came in to post just this.

I fancy it for an upgrade to my HTPC so I can get it ready for the retroplayer in Kodi 18 & Sonic 2HD, the demo of which my current HTPC (AMD 5350) can't run, & better H265 performance (my current rig drops the occasional frame with larger files which pisses me off).
Remember, This needs fast ddr4. 2800mhz recommended. It isnt cheap so any money saved on this over say an intel cpu and maybe a 900 series gpu will be spent on ddr4. Also not all ddr4 is compatible with this cpu. Yes all ddr4 will work but not at a high speed. Just to bare in mind. Others wise the benchmarks are good considering how much it costs. But cheapest isnt always the cheapest.
whopaysrrp30 m ago

Remember, This needs fast ddr4. 2800mhz recommended. It isnt cheap so any …Remember, This needs fast ddr4. 2800mhz recommended. It isnt cheap so any money saved on this over say an intel cpu and maybe a 900 series gpu will be spent on ddr4. Also not all ddr4 is compatible with this cpu. Yes all ddr4 will work but not at a high speed. Just to bare in mind. Others wise the benchmarks are good considering how much it costs. But cheapest isnt always the cheapest.


The difference in price between 2400 and 3200 DDR4 isn't huge. Also Intel CPUs require much more expensive motherboards and have terrible integrated graphics.

This is a great deal, if I had spare cash I would certainly buy it!
andreas001313 h, 15 m ago

good price but i had so many driver issues with this cpu, i would get a …good price but i had so many driver issues with this cpu, i would get a random bsod every single day


No problems with ours, here. Great APU.

The only issue when we got one of these was the mobo had to be bios flashed to accept the processor.

Make sure you have a spare AM4 processor lying around to get this done.
Hot BTW!
Bought 7850k early after launch, worst computing experience I've ever had. Never amd again. Looks like they haven't improved a thing.
pidgin1 h, 10 m ago

Bought 7850k early after launch, worst computing experience I've ever had. …Bought 7850k early after launch, worst computing experience I've ever had. Never amd again. Looks like they haven't improved a thing.


Really? A four year old APU has convinced you that AMD's latest chips, based on an entirely new architecture, which have been proven to be good value AND competitive, are no good and nothing has improved?

I believe Fisher Price will be releasing something that will be right up your street any time now.
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whopaysrrp9 h, 49 m ago

Remember, This needs fast ddr4. 2800mhz recommended. It isnt cheap so any …Remember, This needs fast ddr4. 2800mhz recommended. It isnt cheap so any money saved on this over say an intel cpu and maybe a 900 series gpu will be spent on ddr4. Also not all ddr4 is compatible with this cpu. Yes all ddr4 will work but not at a high speed. Just to bare in mind. Others wise the benchmarks are good considering how much it costs. But cheapest isnt always the cheapest.


Current Gen (8th) Intel needs DDR4 too and while you could get away with 2400 speed on those the cost difference to go to 3000Mhz is about £20, the same difference between this and the i3 8100, so it evens out there. Then even a GTX 750 which is around the same as this is £70ish (if you can avoid the fakes) and the fact means that Intel have only released the high end board for the current generation would make this quite a bit cheaper, more compact and more power efficient.

If you want to go high end or even medium Intel+nVidia would be the way to go, but as the GPU market is even sillier that the RAM market at the minute this can be used in a decent sub £400 build that works now, with a good upgrade path to add more RAM and a discrete GPU if/when things settle down.
re the 2400g .. amz have been selling it at £139 for a week or so .. I see no reduction. It is available from ARIA for £129 tho ...
SlightlyFoxed43 m ago

Really? A four year old APU has convinced you that AMD's latest chips, …Really? A four year old APU has convinced you that AMD's latest chips, based on an entirely new architecture, which have been proven to be good value AND competitive, are no good and nothing has improved?I believe Fisher Price will be releasing something that will be right up your street any time now.



My comment was based on the first comment in this thread.
"good price but i had so many driver issues with this cpu, i would get a random bsod every single day"

This is the exact experience I had, probably even worse. So yeah, fool me once...
Crill3 h, 29 m ago

Current Gen (8th) Intel needs DDR4 too and while you could get away with …Current Gen (8th) Intel needs DDR4 too and while you could get away with 2400 speed on those the cost difference to go to 3000Mhz is about £20, the same difference between this and the i3 8100, so it evens out there. Then even a GTX 750 which is around the same as this is £70ish (if you can avoid the fakes) and the fact means that Intel have only released the high end board for the current generation would make this quite a bit cheaper, more compact and more power efficient.If you want to go high end or even medium Intel+nVidia would be the way to go, but as the GPU market is even sillier that the RAM market at the minute this can be used in a decent sub £400 build that works now, with a good upgrade path to add more RAM and a discrete GPU if/when things settle down.



Oh wait a sec. There is no 'upgrade path' for RAM here.

This is definitely something glossed over!

Look at the only available RAM support modes.

tomshardware.co.uk/rav…tml

2 DIMMs - Dual Rank
up to DDR4-2667

4 DIMMs - Dual Rank
up to DDR4-1866

Absolutely DO NOT expect this to have any RAM upgrade paths. 4 DIMM up to 1866? That performance would kill the CPU as we know Ryzen are bound very hard by memory.

This isn't a 'low end gaming rig' baseline. This is a below low, this is 'lowest end'. Running 720p on *lowest settings* and only getting 30-40 FPS? That is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Crill6 m ago

The upgrade path for RAM would be to go from 1x 8GB sigle rank @ 2933 to 2 …The upgrade path for RAM would be to go from 1x 8GB sigle rank @ 2933 to 2 sticks at the same speed, maybe more with an overclock. 16 GBs or RAM is overkill for anything based on this setup, 8GB is more than enough but the upgrade path is most definitely there.As for the graphics capability, yes its not going to do AAA 60fps, but what complete system for £400 will? It will be good for slightly older games, especially with an overclock e.g DigitalFoundry had GTA V on High settings averaging 49.1fps.https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-ryzen-3-2200-g-ryzen-5-2400g-review



You would recommend a single stick of RAM? That's crazy slow for Ryzen as the Dual Channel is very much needed.

That isn't an upgrade path, that is a 'your computer is bad until you get another stick of RAM'.

That's the difference between:

30FPS on lowest 720 versus 50 FPS lowest on 720 for Witcher 3.

Have another look!

tomshardware.co.uk/rav…tml

It is absolutely terrible performance with single channel. We are talking greater than 20 FPS drops when the max FPS is never above 50 anyway. No way can you legit suggest you stick a single stick of RAM for the sake of saying 'hey there is an upgrade path!'

That is deceptive and a terrible recommendation.

EDIT: It looks like the reply I replied to was deleted, if you realized what I said and deleted your comment (you did it before I posted) good on you!
Edited by: "Nate1492" 22nd Mar
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Nate149219 m ago

You would recommend a single stick of RAM? That's crazy slow for Ryzen as …You would recommend a single stick of RAM? That's crazy slow for Ryzen as the Dual Channel is very much needed.That isn't an upgrade path, that is a 'your computer is bad until you get another stick of RAM'.That's the difference between:30FPS on lowest 720 versus 50 FPS lowest on 720 for Witcher 3.Have another look!http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/raven-ridge-memory-scaling-benchmarks,review-34228.htmlIt is absolutely terrible performance with single channel. We are talking greater than 20 FPS drops when the max FPS is never above 50 anyway. No way can you legit suggest you stick a single stick of RAM for the sake of saying 'hey there is an upgrade path!'That is deceptive and a terrible recommendation.EDIT: It looks like the reply I replied to was deleted, if you realized what I said and deleted your comment (you did it before I posted) good on you!


Yes i removed the comment after i read the full article and didnt want to push inaccurate information, thanks for the link.

Here it is clarity
"The upgrade path for RAM would be to go from 1x 8GB sigle rank @ 2933 to 2 sticks at the same speed, maybe more with an overclock. 16 GBs or RAM is overkill for anything based on this setup, 8GB is more than enough but the upgrade path is most definitely there.

As for the graphics capability, yes its not going to do AAA 60fps, but what complete system for £400 will? It will be good for slightly older games, especially with an overclock e.g DigitalFoundry had GTA V on High settings averaging 49.1fps.

eurogamer.net/art…iew"

When i said upgrade path I really meant for CPU and GPU, as AMD don't change their socket every other generation and will support it until at least 2020 you can drop in a future Ryzen as long as the board gets a bios update and with a discrete GPU if the prices normalise. I had overlooked RAM in this.

It does mean a bit more planning to get the ram you want for the system upfront (I dont like having to rely on selling to that so I wont say you could sell the lower capacity pair in the future), I'm not using it for gaming so am fairly sure that i wont need more than 8GB of ram so will get a 2x4GB 3000MHz from the start. Even for gaming that may be the best option, it would still bring a system in at under £400
Edited by: "Crill" 22nd Mar
nyasham22 h, 36 m ago

If you have a dedicated gpu, then I’d say just pay a little extra for an i …If you have a dedicated gpu, then I’d say just pay a little extra for an intel i3 8100 or the Ryzen 3 1300X (if Intel’s motherboards scare you)But if you plan to use the onboard gpu... nothing compares to this


Whoa, thanks for the reply!
Fantastic processor for the price but be aware that most AM4 boards, even though they say they support it, need flashing before use as the bios does not support the 2200g off the shelf. You may need a ryzen 3,5 or 7 processor to put in to the board first to flash it and get the bios to support the 2200g.
If your buying from a reputable computer parts retail establishment then it may be possible for them to flash it for you before they post it... Maybe a small fee applied but it does save time.. I had to strip down my Ryzen 5 rig to get this processor working for my dad
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Carling.Fosters13 h, 56 m ago

Fantastic processor for the price but be aware that most AM4 boards, even …Fantastic processor for the price but be aware that most AM4 boards, even though they say they support it, need flashing before use as the bios does not support the 2200g off the shelf. You may need a ryzen 3,5 or 7 processor to put in to the board first to flash it and get the bios to support the 2200g.If your buying from a reputable computer parts retail establishment then it may be possible for them to flash it for you before they post it... Maybe a small fee applied but it does save time.. I had to strip down my Ryzen 5 rig to get this processor working for my dad


I have saw a couple of articles and videos stating that you can "borrow" an old, socket compatible APU from AMD to do the upgrade and then return to them, I cant see if this is available in the UK too. I think Gamers Nexus stated it took over a week to get to them though.
Crill22nd Mar

Yes i removed the comment after i read the full article and didnt want to …Yes i removed the comment after i read the full article and didnt want to push inaccurate information, thanks for the link.Here it is clarity "The upgrade path for RAM would be to go from 1x 8GB sigle rank @ 2933 to 2 sticks at the same speed, maybe more with an overclock. 16 GBs or RAM is overkill for anything based on this setup, 8GB is more than enough but the upgrade path is most definitely there.As for the graphics capability, yes its not going to do AAA 60fps, but what complete system for £400 will? It will be good for slightly older games, especially with an overclock e.g DigitalFoundry had GTA V on High settings averaging 49.1fps.https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-ryzen-3-2200-g-ryzen-5-2400g-review"When i said upgrade path I really meant for CPU and GPU, as AMD don't change their socket every other generation and will support it until at least 2020 you can drop in a future Ryzen as long as the board gets a bios update and with a discrete GPU if the prices normalise. I had overlooked RAM in this.It does mean a bit more planning to get the ram you want for the system upfront (I dont like having to rely on selling to that so I wont say you could sell the lower capacity pair in the future), I'm not using it for gaming so am fairly sure that i wont need more than 8GB of ram so will get a 2x4GB 3000MHz from the start. Even for gaming that may be the best option, it would still bring a system in at under £400



Let's be real though, 2020 is not far away and AMD have been know to do half upgrades. They did AM2 and AM2+ and AM3 and AM3+. They will likely do a AM4+ where their new chips 'work' on the old boards, but are cut down in features.

AMD *will* be changing their socket every 'other' generation, they just have a longer cycle between generations planned.

I just can't see this board being suggested for gaming, full stop. I wouldn't suggest the Geforce 1030 for Gaming, and it's superior to this APU in performance. I'd say if you even want to talk about 'gaming' you should get a minimum of the 750/950/1050 cards, which can be had for under 100.
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