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Ryzen 7 1700 + CPU Cooler £277.97 @ Amazon
Arguably the pick of the Ryzen stack for those doing more than solely gaming this CPU is at the lowest ever price on Amazon.

OnlineSavings - £275.49
Amazon - £276.49

I have one of these myself, since launch (£319), and rate it highly. The CPU (AM4 socket - B350/X370 chipset, don't bother with A320) comes complete with a very good RGB heatsink fan. CPU is unlocked as per all Ryzen 5/7 and will typically OC from 3.8-4.0GHZ.

8/16 core
3.7 GHz
4 MB L2 Cache
16 MB L3 Cache
65 Watt

To be clear, this is aimed at those wanting to do gaming, productivity, creation, editing and general compute horsepower, particularly good for virtual machines and so on. If you're only gaming, consider getting a Ryzen 7 1600 and plow the saved money in to your GPU.

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Paid £32 for my G3900 so I'm good
Edited by: "yoyo59" 14th Jul
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Reserved.

Hot, paid about the same for mine a few weeks back. Great CPU compared to Intels alternative.

The_Hoff

If you're only gaming, consider getting a Ryzen 7 1600 and plow the … If you're only gaming, consider getting a Ryzen 7 1600 and plow the saved money in to your GPU.



Or an intel where the price vs performance will be much higher for a gaming CPU... Heat for this price though. Great little CPU on a mid-tier budget.

thought Ryzen was dodgy with esxi, that fixed since you recommend for VMs?

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powerbrick

thought Ryzen was dodgy with esxi, that fixed since you recommend for VMs?



Do much virtualisation? Are you talking about issues from March/April RE SMT?

ESXi being one such solution for VM, amongst many.

The_Hoff

Do much virtualisation? Are you talking about issues from March/April RE … Do much virtualisation? Are you talking about issues from March/April RE SMT?ESXi being one such solution for VM, amongst many.



I do, but on my old trusty R720 at work. The articles I read were probably from a couple of months back.

have some heat very happy with my ryzen 5 1600 i would have got this if was buying now. always used intel in the past nothing wrong with amd

I ordered this yesterday. I do more than just gaming so it was the better choice even after toying with the 1600. But even for gaming it'll be a big step up from my 1055t.

Would this be ideal for 4K video editing? Or am I better off with the i7 7700k?

Shifuho

Would this be ideal for 4K video editing? Or am I better off with the i7 … Would this be ideal for 4K video editing? Or am I better off with the i7 7700k?


This will be better for that use case.

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Shifuho

Would this be ideal for 4K video editing? Or am I better off with the i7 … Would this be ideal for 4K video editing? Or am I better off with the i7 7700k?



This, by a country mile. Especially paired with an Nvidia card if your app supports Cuda.

Not only for the encode times, but also because your system will still be responsive for additional functions whilst the encode is taking place.

I edit my Phantom footage on it, works a treat.

Thanks guys. I thought so too.

Hot

Paid £250 for my 7700k so I'm good lol

Paid £32 for my G3900 so I'm good
Edited by: "yoyo59" 14th Jul

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Buttttt has nothing to do with high-core count CPU's, like this one

Why buy this when for 830 quid you could get a MAcbook Air with 2015 i5?

No really I sh*t you not :-

hotukdeals.com/dea…699

steve_bezerker

Or an intel where the price vs performance will be much higher for a … Or an intel where the price vs performance will be much higher for a gaming CPU... Heat for this price though. Great little CPU on a mid-tier budget.



Much higher

Much

No mate. Higher, yes. Much? No, about 10%, and that's the only thing it's better in.

If you want the best for gaming then go for the i7-7700k.
It's objectively the best cpu for high framerate gaming.
But like you said if you want to do other muticore application/virtualization then consider ryzen.

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mojo5110

If you want the best for gaming then go for the i7-7700k. It's … If you want the best for gaming then go for the i7-7700k. It's objectively the best cpu for high framerate gaming. But like you said if you want to do other muticore application/virtualization then consider ryzen.



I don't agree if you're building a new rig. Sure, if you're already limited to that socket it's logical.

tomshardware.com/rev…tml

The 1600 kills the 7700k for FPS/£ and it doesn't need an aftermarket cooler, to be delidded or crazy voltage to do it.

mojo5110

If you want the best for gaming then go for the i7-7700k. It's … If you want the best for gaming then go for the i7-7700k. It's objectively the best cpu for high framerate gaming. But like you said if you want to do other muticore application/virtualization then consider ryzen.



The i7 7700k is flat out poor value. For gaming fps focus on the GPU. Most of these mid range cpu are more than up to this task.

Also Ryzen is new. Virtualisation needs some work for now.

Ryzen 3 will be out very soon and the prices should be insane. Will make i5 and i3's look expensive.

Edited by: "MRP" 14th Jul

The Ryzen CPU is a better choice if when you game you are also running other CPU-intensive programs at the same time, say rendering or encoding video, etc. If we're talking about real world usage, that scenario very much fits my real world usage. If I was making a computer purely to be a gaming box, I would probably go the Intel route, I say probably because though the Intel route seems to lead to higher frame rates where the high end graphics card isn't the bottleneck, game play in some games looks a little smoother to me with Ryzen. Even so, if I had to select one platform for purely gaming, I would probably go for the K-series i7 and overclock, or even a K-series i5 as a lot of newer games still don't take advantage of those extra i7 threads. I keep reading that for Ryzen there have been some patches for games that turn some of the earlier benchmark comparisons on their head but those are newer games, whereas a lot of the games that I like to play are older games that I pick up cheap in Steam sales; even if games in the future are better optimised to take advantage of what Ryzen has to offer, that future is further away for me, so to speak. Big fan of AMD's Ryzen as a competitor to Intel that should hopefully bring some long overdue competition in pricing!

Anyway, getting back on topic, I can't find it cheaper from any of the mainstream vendors - hot.

Yaradabbadoo

Why buy this when for 830 quid you could get a MAcbook Air with 2015 … Why buy this when for 830 quid you could get a MAcbook Air with 2015 i5?No really I sh*t you not :-https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/apple-macbook-air-829-at-argos-2740699


*Facepalm*

Also to add: the X Ryzens and other intel i7 have higher clocks but are worse value wise. This 1700 also includes a decent stock cooler with a led ring. Motherboards are another plus point.

Edited by: "MRP" 15th Jul

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MRP

Also to add: the X Ryzens and other intel i7 have higher clocks but are … Also to add: the X Ryzens and other intel i7 have higher clocks but are worse value wise. This 1700 also includes a decent stock cooler with a led ring. Motherboards are another plus point.



The X models and clock speed differences are irrelevant once you OC your chip any way. Plus XFR also becomes irrelevant.

1600/1700 are the best SKU's.

The_Hoff

I don't agree if you're building a new rig. Sure, if you're already … I don't agree if you're building a new rig. Sure, if you're already limited to that socket it's logical.http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.htmlThe 1600 kills the 7700k for FPS/£ and it doesn't need an aftermarket cooler, to be delidded or crazy voltage to do it.



He's not looking at PvP though, he's looking at the best CPU on the market for gaming. Which the i7-7700k is undoubtedly the king of.

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steve_bezerker

He's not looking at PvP though, he's looking at the best CPU on the … He's not looking at PvP though, he's looking at the best CPU on the market for gaming. Which the i7-7700k is undoubtedly the king of.



Well, no.

That would be the 7740k, as I said, building a new rig? 7700k is irrelevant if value is of no concern.

Edited by: "The_Hoff" 15th Jul

The_Hoff

Well, no.That would be the 7740k, as I said, building a new rig? 7700k is … Well, no.That would be the 7740k, as I said, building a new rig? 7700k is irrelevant if value is of no concern.



Disagree but opinions are opinions.

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steve_bezerker

Disagree but opinions are opinions.



Which part do you disagree with?

That the 7740k is a faster CPU for gaming than the 7700k? Factually this is correct.

That if money were of no concern and you're building a new rig that investing in an EOL socket and selecting a 7700k is wise? That makes no sense given the above.

If money is of concern (value, ref above) then spending an extra 30% on a 7700k versus a Ryzen 1600 (for gaming), or spending that extra £100 on a GPU (difference between a 1060-1070, or 1070-80) which would net you significantly more performance is also pointless.

Maybe you can elaborate.

It's worth adding that this chip (or the 1700x, or 1800x) aren't necessarily any good for productivity. Look up benchmarks in the apps you need to upgrade for before you commit to this chip, as you might find that it will actually give you a significant downgrade in performance.

Adobe Lightroom / Photoshop users especially should be wary of them.

Shifuho14th Jul

Would this be ideal for 4K video editing? Or am I better off with the i7 …Would this be ideal for 4K video editing? Or am I better off with the i7 7700k?


It depends on the software you are using, but often times video *editing* depends on single core performance, so the i7 7700k would beat the 1700.

If you are doing a lot of *software* encoding, then the Ryzen 1700 pulls ahead.

techpowerup.com/rev…tml

Have a look at the 1800x review and see how it fairs against the 7700k, maybe your application is tested here.

MRP16 h, 42 m ago

The i7 7700k is flat out poor value. For gaming fps focus on the GPU. Most …The i7 7700k is flat out poor value. For gaming fps focus on the GPU. Most of these mid range cpu are more than up to this task.Also Ryzen is new. Virtualisation needs some work for now. Ryzen 3 will be out very soon and the prices should be insane. Will make i5 and i3's look expensive.


If the ryzen 1400 is any indication of performance/value of the Ryzen 3, I would not wait for it.

The pentium G4560 and similar processors are amazing value to money.

Nate1492

If the ryzen 1400 is any indication of performance/value of the Ryzen 3, … If the ryzen 1400 is any indication of performance/value of the Ryzen 3, I would not wait for it.The pentium G4560 and similar processors are amazing value to money.



Lets see if they are

Ryzen 5 start at around £150

MRP1 h, 15 m ago

Lets see if they are Ryzen 5 start at around £150


I don't know how that competes with the Pentiums? you can buy two or three G4560s for 150... So, I don't know why you have a 'winky face' on it... The Ryzen 1400 is incredibly bad value for money.

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MRP

Lets see if they are ;)Ryzen 5 start at around £150



Nate and myself disagree vehemently on many things, and I've added him to my s*** list for his aggressive and simply rude replies.

I was not trolling, at all. And you should know Nate is invested in Intel financially, and has been extremely pro Intel in many threads. His stories of 'oh look how bad AMD is' involves increasingly higher levels of fabrication. I'd suggest he was getting 'value for money' here with how staunchly and deeply he supports Intel, but that's ridiculous, he probably actually likes Intel, despite his 20k investment in their stock... I doubt he can actually change that stock value by any reasonable number, so he's not an Intel shill, he just really enjoys Intel, would I use the word Fanboy? Probably. Who knows, maybe Nate will jump aboard AMD in the future, but I am skeptical of his bias.

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Nate1492

I don't know how that competes with the Pentiums? you can buy two or … I don't know how that competes with the Pentiums? you can buy two or three G4560s for 150... So, I don't know why you have a 'winky face' on it... The Ryzen 1400 is incredibly bad value for money.



If we're comparing Bananas with Apples (as you love to do), you'll be horrified to find that the Pentiums you wax lyrical about are also completely dominated by AMD:

m.cpubenchmark.net/cpu…tml

Next?

Nate1492

I don't know how that competes with the Pentiums? you can buy two or … I don't know how that competes with the Pentiums? you can buy two or three G4560s for 150... So, I don't know why you have a 'winky face' on it... The Ryzen 1400 is incredibly bad value for money.



Dunno, Are i7's better value than i3's? Hard to tell if some people are being serious in the slightest.

Lets see what the pricing of the Ryzen 3 are like vs i3's dual cores.

MRP41 m ago

Dunno, Are i7's better value than i3's? Hard to tell if some people are …Dunno, Are i7's better value than i3's? Hard to tell if some people are being serious in the slightest. Lets see what the pricing of the Ryzen 3 are like vs i3's dual cores.


Better value depends on what you are doing completely.

But the Pentium G4560 is an amazing budget CPU. Ryzen cannot compete with it on the low end for 50-60 quid.

tomshardware.com/rev…tml


VERDICT
Budget gaming builds always strive to optimize for performance per dollar. The Pentium G4560 stacks that equation in your favor like no processor before it. A slightly lower clock rate compared to the G4620 saves quite a bit of money, yet it's still fast enough for modern games and most desktop productivity apps. If a discrete graphics card is on your shopping list, the Pentium G4560's low cost might help you level-up to a faster GPU, too.

That's a screaming letter of budget value recommendation.

Edited by: "Nate1492" 16th Jul

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Nate1492

Better value depends on what you are doing completely.But the Pentium … Better value depends on what you are doing completely.But the Pentium G4560 is an amazing budget CPU. Ryzen cannot compete with it on the low end for 50-60 quid. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-pentium-g4620-g4560-cpu,4934-4.htmlVERDICTBudget gaming builds always strive to optimize for performance per dollar. The Pentium G4560 stacks that equation in your favor like no processor before it. A slightly lower clock rate compared to the G4620 saves quite a bit of money, yet it's still fast enough for modern games and most desktop productivity apps. If a discrete graphics card is on your shopping list, the Pentium G4560's low cost might help you level-up to a faster GPU, too.That's a screaming letter of budget value recommendation.



And yet the AMD CPU'S in the link above destroy that too.
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