Sage by Heston Dual Boiler Coffee Machine  £839.99 - Amazon
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Sage by Heston Dual Boiler Coffee Machine £839.99 - Amazon

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Found 23rd Mar 2016
Nearly £400 off the usual price on this prosumer machine. Serious bit of kit.
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I'd rather two new central heating boilers for that price
or a really good 4k tv
840 for a coffee machine you must be crazy. sooner sht in my hand and clap.
I thought that price was taking the **** and then I read that it was £400 off. Some people must have more money than sense.
Yeah if only it was cheap beans at Asda, definitely worth an upvote then.
More money than sense?
I dont think you understand this machinery enough to comment on it. This is not just a water over the beans jobby.

I mean i would never buy it.. Hell i do t even appreciate coffee that much. But i can appreciate the machinery and how it does its job.
Not voting hot or cold since I don't have much clue about coffee. But wouldn't a coffee expert avoid a celebrity-endorsed machine? Kind of like how few professional chefs would use a George Foreman grill (probably)...
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Plus the free grinder offer is still going I believe
Donuts123

Not voting hot or cold since I don't have much clue about coffee. But … Not voting hot or cold since I don't have much clue about coffee. But wouldn't a coffee expert avoid a celebrity-endorsed machine? Kind of like how few professional chefs would use a George Foreman grill (probably)...



For the most part, that's true, but these are bloody good machines. If you have £800 to spend on a coffee machine, you won't find much better than this.

To those who say more money than sense: I have a Jura ENA 5 machine, which I've had for around 5 years now. It's (well, it was) a £700 machine, and I have no intention of replacing it any time soon, it still works as good as the day I got it. If I bought a Tassimo machine, a average prices seem to be around £70 (cheaper ones are available, but mid-range is a fair comparison). On Amazon, 80 pods are £15. Also on Amazon, there are various 1KG bags of coffee beans available around £9-10, most of which are nice (much nicer than Tassimo pods will be). For comparison, I'll use the middle ground of £9.50/KG.

For espresso the rule of thumb is 7g for a single shot (varies per taste, but this is the normal amount, double for a double shot obviously). That means a tassimo shot costs 18.75p (15/80). 7g of coffee beans costs 6.6p (9.50/1000*7). I've had my machine for 5 years, probably having an average of 3 drinks a day. That's 5475 drinks.

Total cost of tassimo over 5 years: £1096
Total cost of Jura over the same 5 years: £1064

Absolutely nothing in it. And you get to have freshly ground coffee, can pick and choose different beans, and I see no reason why my machine won't last another 5 years.
bma1445

For the most part, that's true, but these are bloody good machines. If … For the most part, that's true, but these are bloody good machines. If you have £800 to spend on a coffee machine, you won't find much better than this.To those who say more money than sense: I have a Jura ENA 5 machine, which I've had for around 5 years now. It's (well, it was) a £700 machine, and I have no intention of replacing it any time soon, it still works as good as the day I got it. If I bought a Tassimo machine, a average prices seem to be around £70 (cheaper ones are available, but mid-range is a fair comparison). On Amazon, 80 pods are £15. Also on Amazon, there are various 1KG bags of coffee beans available around £9-10, most of which are nice (much nicer than Tassimo pods will be). For comparison, I'll use the middle ground of £9.50/KG.For espresso the rule of thumb is 7g for a single shot (varies per taste, but this is the normal amount, double for a double shot obviously). That means a tassimo shot costs 18.75p (15/80). 7g of coffee beans costs 6.6p (9.50/1000*7). I've had my machine for 5 years, probably having an average of 3 drinks a day. That's 5475 drinks. Total cost of tassimo over 5 years: £1096Total cost of Jura over the same 5 years: £1064Absolutely nothing in it. And you get to have freshly ground coffee, can pick and choose different beans, and I see no reason why my machine won't last another 5 years.



​Not really a direct comparison. People buy tassimo for the convenience.
Tassimo and the like sure are more convenient, but they don't come anywhere close to producing a decent espresso compared to a semi-decent coffee machine such as this one. Convenience and good coffee never go hand in hand...
I read on the coffee forums that dual boilers are the top bolocks on the coffee machines. It can manage to pour water at the same temperature over the beans.

Still not buying it. I am using a Delongi on deal from Tesco. Was reduced to clear 48£ and the old stale lavaza. Can beat it.
Gkay11

I read on the coffee forums that dual boilers are the top bolocks on the … I read on the coffee forums that dual boilers are the top bolocks on the coffee machines. It can manage to pour water at the same temperature over the beans. Still not buying it. I am using a Delongi on deal from Tesco. Was reduced to clear 48£ and the old stale lavaza. Can beat it.



You said it!
Donuts123

Not voting hot or cold since I don't have much clue about coffee. But … Not voting hot or cold since I don't have much clue about coffee. But wouldn't a coffee expert avoid a celebrity-endorsed machine? Kind of like how few professional chefs would use a George Foreman grill (probably)...



Only celebrity endorsed for the UK market. It's actually a Breville BES920XL which comes in around $1200/$1300 in the US and Canada - as it reduced, it may well be the older model, BES920XL.

Puting the "celebrity" thing to one side, they are supposed to be good machines, if you've got that kinda money to spend.

Our Delonghi bean to cup which cost £500ish in 2010 is still going strong despite being used daily by the whole family and when it does bite the dust, I reckon we'll either stick with a DeLonghi or go for a Jura like the poster above.

Edit: It is the later model, save yourself a tenner or so if you're a Prime member and buy it from:

amazon.com/Bre…hen
Edited by: "Tapasman" 24th Mar 2016
Tapasman

Only celebrity endorsed for the UK market. It's actually a Breville … Only celebrity endorsed for the UK market. It's actually a Breville BES920XL which comes in around $1200/$1300 in the US and Canada - as it reduced, it may well be the older model, BES920XL.Puting the "celebrity" thing to one side, they are supposed to be good machines, if you've got that kinda money to spend. Our Delonghi bean to cup which cost £500ish in 2010 is still going strong despite being used daily by the whole family and when it does bite the dust, I reckon we'll either stick with a DeLonghi or go for a Jura like the poster above. Edit: It is the later model, save yourself a tenner or so if you're a Prime member and buy it from:http://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES920XL-Boiler-Espresso-Machine/dp/B00I6JGGP0/ref=dp_ob_title_kitchen



There's a "like new" open box one for $930 too, that's a very good price.

The point of the dual boiler is that one heats water for the espresso, and the other heats water for the steam - so you don't have to wait for water to get to the right temperature (for example, my Jura needs around 10 seconds to produce steam after espresso).
Good price, but not good enough to tempt me.

I'm not sure how long ours takes to produce steam, all espresso drinkers here - plus the convenience of bean to cup is hard to beat (for me anyway).

Done the grinding, filling, tamping etc and will happily suffer the small difference in quality to hit the button and a few seconds later have a shot delivered. In fact, after so many years of caffeine, nicotine and alcohol I'm not even sure my palate could tell the difference between thermoblock and boiler!
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