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I have been waiting for this to drop below £300 for a while, seems a good deal. Prime only ( but get a free trial if you don’t have it
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Been waiting for price drop on this too. Add heat to your coffee
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Edited by: "Reuben_Skelly" 16th Jul
how can a pod machine be so expensive. what does it do that a £50 cant?
1982john16/07/2019 07:56

how can a pod machine be so expensive. what does it do that a £50 cant?


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Edited by: "StinkingQuentin" 16th Jul
Have this machine it is amazing
rhythmandsoul16/07/2019 08:08

Have this machine it is amazing


How does it "amaze" you?

Waiting for the Prima Bullshitista model myself, rarely on sale.
1982john16/07/2019 07:56

how can a pod machine be so expensive. what does it do that a £50 cant?


That's what I thought.

If you are going to spend this kind of money you might as well get a propper coffee machine as tastes a hell of a lot batter, works out a hell of a lot cheaper and so better for the environment?

We bought a coffee pod machine a few months ago, but now only my wife uses it occasionally when I'm not around (although she prefers the taste of my AerobiePress coffee Plunger).
Edited by: "Dragon32" 16th Jul
Dragon3216/07/2019 08:22

That's what I thought.If you are going to spend this kind of money you …That's what I thought.If you are going to spend this kind of money you might as well get a propper coffee machine as tastes a hell of a lot batter, works out a hell of a lot cheaper and so better for the environment?We bought a coffee pod machine a few months ago, but now only my wife uses it occasionally when I'm not around (although she prefers the taste of my AerobiePress coffee Plunger).


Completely agree, this seems like a ridiculous price for a machine that still uses pods.
Agreed - looks nice but that’s a lot of money for something that’s gonna be 3x the cost to run compared to a bean to cup.
Edited by: "russwuss" 16th Jul
The milk on the sage wands is great though. Really easy to do latte art
The frothing wand is the same as the one from the expensive Sage Heston machine which has bumped up the price.

The flexibility of the Nespresso is actually an important factor. With a standard coffee machine you can't really change the beans very easily on demand. There are a great selection of coffees ranging from Ristretto to longer coffees. Just my 2 cents.
Fantastic machine. Massive upgrade in terms of milk consistency and froth from the standard nespresso/aeroccino combo.

Also quicker, lots of coffee options, and looks gorgeous.
1982john16/07/2019 07:56

how can a pod machine be so expensive. what does it do that a £50 cant?


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russwuss16/07/2019 09:22

Agreed - looks nice but that’s a lot of money for something that’s gonna be …Agreed - looks nice but that’s a lot of money for something that’s gonna be 3x the cost to run compared to a bean to cup.


This has confused me for some time and I thought my maths skills were pretty good. I have the above machine and nearly went for a bean to cup over last Christmas. The sales rep mentioned that she had some good beans that cost £20 for 500 grams. Checking on Ravecoffee single origin beans are say £22.50 per kilo (cheapest). The machine I was looking at took a 22g dose per shot.Which is 45 coffees per kilo. This works out at 50p per cup. Nespresso is 37p for their single origin (although the gram dose is less) and for me is a good cup of Joe. I also use Amazons solimo brand pods at 9p a cup, which are ok. Nespresso also recycle thier pods if you want them too.

Add the fact that there is pretty much no mess or cleaning, makes nespresso the choice for me.But I would LOVE a reason to buy a bean to cup, I just can't justify it over what I have.

The above machine impresses all my guests and you can do Latte art at the right settings. For £250 I think it's a great machine.

Would be great to have your opinions as to why a bean to cup is better.
Edited by: "blister69" 16th Jul
blister6916/07/2019 11:13

This has confused me for some time and I thought my maths skills were …This has confused me for some time and I thought my maths skills were pretty good. I have the above machine and nearly went for a bean to cup over last Christmas. The sales rep mentioned that she had some good beans that cost £20 for 500 grams. Checking on Ravecoffee single origin beans are say £22.50 per kilo (cheapest). The machine I was looking at took a 22g dose per shot.Which is 45 coffees per kilo. This works out at 50p per cup. Nespresso is 37p for their single origin (although the gram dose is less) and for me is a good cup of Joe. I also use Amazons solimo brand pods at 9p a cup, which are ok. Nespresso also recycle thier pods if you want them too.Add the fact that there is pretty much no mess or cleaning, makes nespresso the choice for me.But I would LOVE a reason to buy a bean to cup, I just can't justify it over what I have.The above machine impresses all my guests and you can do Latte art at the right settings. For £250 I think it's a great machine.Would be great to have your opinions as to why a bean to cup is better.


Good every day coffee can be had for £10 per KG, like Lavazza Rosso. I've tried many, including proper Blue Mountain but for an every day cup I always come back to the above.

Pods are unequivocally more expensive, you pay for convenience.
Carjacking wee machine thon one & add to it the 4p a capsule espresso or ristretto capsules and she’s a lovely wee job
Thanks for the reply Hoff.

Like I say, I really want an excuse to get bean to cup. However, you're still talking 23p a cup with Lavazza Rossa. Couple that with the extra cost of a bean to cup machine (£350 for a good sage barista if on a deal) say £100 difference it all starts to add up.

So I guess it is a little extra for convenience unless you go for Amazon's Solimo at 9p, but not 3 times more expensive as Russwuss stated. Pod machines get a bad press on here, but I think they have a very good place. This one is a bargain, not a waste of money in my humble opinion.
People saying might as well get a bean to cup for this price...well not really...it's 400+ for a decent bean to cup
Why is this expired? Still showing at £249
Brabus_Duddy16/07/2019 16:18

Why is this expired? Still showing at £249


Yep, It's ok for another 6 hours yet.
blister6916/07/2019 11:13

This has confused me for some time and I thought my maths skills were …This has confused me for some time and I thought my maths skills were pretty good. I have the above machine and nearly went for a bean to cup over last Christmas. The sales rep mentioned that she had some good beans that cost £20 for 500 grams. Checking on Ravecoffee single origin beans are say £22.50 per kilo (cheapest). The machine I was looking at took a 22g dose per shot.Which is 45 coffees per kilo. This works out at 50p per cup. Nespresso is 37p for their single origin (although the gram dose is less) and for me is a good cup of Joe. I also use Amazons solimo brand pods at 9p a cup, which are ok. Nespresso also recycle thier pods if you want them too.Add the fact that there is pretty much no mess or cleaning, makes nespresso the choice for me.But I would LOVE a reason to buy a bean to cup, I just can't justify it over what I have.The above machine impresses all my guests and you can do Latte art at the right settings. For £250 I think it's a great machine.Would be great to have your opinions as to why a bean to cup is better.


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blister6916/07/2019 11:13

This has confused me for some time and I thought my maths skills were …This has confused me for some time and I thought my maths skills were pretty good. I have the above machine and nearly went for a bean to cup over last Christmas. The sales rep mentioned that she had some good beans that cost £20 for 500 grams. Checking on Ravecoffee single origin beans are say £22.50 per kilo (cheapest). The machine I was looking at took a 22g dose per shot.Which is 45 coffees per kilo. This works out at 50p per cup. Nespresso is 37p for their single origin (although the gram dose is less) and for me is a good cup of Joe. I also use Amazons solimo brand pods at 9p a cup, which are ok. Nespresso also recycle thier pods if you want them too.Add the fact that there is pretty much no mess or cleaning, makes nespresso the choice for me.But I would LOVE a reason to buy a bean to cup, I just can't justify it over what I have.The above machine impresses all my guests and you can do Latte art at the right settings. For £250 I think it's a great machine.Would be great to have your opinions as to why a bean to cup is better.


Could it be because a nespresso capsule contains 6gms of coffee and a conventional espresso is 12 to 15 grams?
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I did mention the fact that Nespresso pods contain a lesser dosage. However, when comparing taste with the coffee the rep made from the Sage and a Nespresso single origin, I really can't tell much difference. So maybe the Sage wasn't "Dialed in" correctly.

I have nothing against Bean to Cup. I actually would like one if the statements above are true. i.e. "3 times lower costs" & "tastes a hell of a lot better".
I am merely showing the actual true findings from my own experience and defending capsule machines that are on a good deal.
blister6931/07/2019 10:56

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I did mention the fact that Nespresso pods …Thanks for the reply. Yes, I did mention the fact that Nespresso pods contain a lesser dosage. However, when comparing taste with the coffee the rep made from the Sage and a Nespresso single origin, I really can't tell much difference. So maybe the Sage wasn't "Dialed in" correctly. I have nothing against Bean to Cup. I actually would like one if the statements above are true. i.e. "3 times lower costs" & "tastes a hell of a lot better". I am merely showing the actual true findings from my own experience and defending capsule machines that are on a good deal.


Am convinced. Just waiting for another drop to 250 and will pull the trigger.
On a seperate note, is there a good toaster people here would recommend.

I am asking as this post is likely to attract people looking for quality appliances...
blister6916/07/2019 11:13

This has confused me for some time and I thought my maths skills were …This has confused me for some time and I thought my maths skills were pretty good. I have the above machine and nearly went for a bean to cup over last Christmas. The sales rep mentioned that she had some good beans that cost £20 for 500 grams. Checking on Ravecoffee single origin beans are say £22.50 per kilo (cheapest). The machine I was looking at took a 22g dose per shot.Which is 45 coffees per kilo. This works out at 50p per cup. Nespresso is 37p for their single origin (although the gram dose is less) and for me is a good cup of Joe. I also use Amazons solimo brand pods at 9p a cup, which are ok. Nespresso also recycle thier pods if you want them too.Add the fact that there is pretty much no mess or cleaning, makes nespresso the choice for me.But I would LOVE a reason to buy a bean to cup, I just can't justify it over what I have.The above machine impresses all my guests and you can do Latte art at the right settings. For £250 I think it's a great machine.Would be great to have your opinions as to why a bean to cup is better.


I think the fallacy of your thought process is placing too great an emphasis on single origin and also thinking that a pod is equal to freshly roasted and freshly ground coffee. I have bought hundreds of bags of coffee from Rave and I often prefer their blends especially the Chatsworth blend. They have regular special offers and my average spend with them is probably around £12 per kilo. Pair this with a decent grinder and you will have better coffee at a cheaper price than any pod. Once you get used to recently roasted coffee I am guessing pods will start to taste and smell stale to you.
Edited by: "Andyo123" 11th Sep
Andyo12311/09/2019 08:24

I think the fallacy of your thought process is placing too great an …I think the fallacy of your thought process is placing too great an emphasis on single origin and also thinking that a pod is equal to freshly roasted and freshly ground coffee. I have bought hundreds of bags of coffee from Rave and I often prefer their blends especially the Chatsworth blend. They have regular special offers and my average spend with them is probably around £12 per kilo. Pair this with a decent grinder and you will have better coffee at a cheaper price than any pod. Once you get used to recently roasted coffee I am guessing pods will start to taste and smell stale to you.


I would love own a bean to cup for a month to compare them both. So at £12 AVG that's 27p a cup. And Nespresso AVG is 33p. Are you also saying that I would need a separate grinder or use the one in the bean to cup machine? How hard is it to "dial in" a cup when you get new beans? It this sort of thing that puts me off making the jump.

How long do beans last before they become stale?

What machine would you recommend?

I'm not even a massive coffee drinker, I just like to get it right when I do have a cup. Sorry for all the questions. Cheapest I could find a kilo at rave was £13.50 (30p/cup) but only had a quick look.
blister6911/09/2019 11:24

I would love own a bean to cup for a month to compare them both. So at £12 …I would love own a bean to cup for a month to compare them both. So at £12 AVG that's 27p a cup. And Nespresso AVG is 33p. Are you also saying that I would need a separate grinder or use the one in the bean to cup machine? How hard is it to "dial in" a cup when you get new beans? It this sort of thing that puts me off making the jump.How long do beans last before they become stale?What machine would you recommend?I'm not even a massive coffee drinker, I just like to get it right when I do have a cup. Sorry for all the questions. Cheapest I could find a kilo at rave was £13.50 (30p/cup) but only had a quick look.


Apologies for the delayed reply. I only just saw this.

If you bought a bean to cup machine you wouldn't need a grinder but the ones that include a grinder are normally significantly more expensive.

"Dialling in a cup" is something I have never done. I may occasionally change the grind slightly but rarely. I think this sort of stuff falls into the category of hobby as opposed to functional.

Beans last a good while. When you buy from a supermarket or even pods the beans were roasted a long time ago. They may have been sealed but they are not fresh. So even if you wait a few months to finish freshly roasted beans they are still fresher than the alternative. I do keep my beans in an air tight container once the pack is opened.

Rave have sales on regularly where their blends/single origins are reduced by 15%-20%. Right now today it's 15$-20% off single origin. I just paid £29 for two kilos but if I had gone with cheaper beans it could have been £26.

In terms of which machine would be best for you. Did you have a budget in mind? I just bought a Breviile One touch for £126. It's the cheapest machine I have had for a good few years but is great in one vital way for me. I can make a latte in 3-5 minutes. I work from home and have very short breaks between conference calls. The milk isn't great comparatively to using a steam wand or a very expensive one touch but beyond that its a pretty nifty machine that makes good coffee.
Edited by: "Andyo123" 18th Sep
blister6911/09/2019 11:24

I would love own a bean to cup for a month to compare them both. So at £12 …I would love own a bean to cup for a month to compare them both. So at £12 AVG that's 27p a cup. And Nespresso AVG is 33p. Are you also saying that I would need a separate grinder or use the one in the bean to cup machine? How hard is it to "dial in" a cup when you get new beans? It this sort of thing that puts me off making the jump.How long do beans last before they become stale?What machine would you recommend?I'm not even a massive coffee drinker, I just like to get it right when I do have a cup. Sorry for all the questions. Cheapest I could find a kilo at rave was £13.50 (30p/cup) but only had a quick look.


I think your Maths might be a bit off. A typical double espresso is 17-20g. So you could get close to 100 single shots out of a kg. Incidentally Rave also started doing pods recently if you wanted to try them out.
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