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Sage Oracle Touch Fully Automatic Bean-to-Cup Coffee Machine, Brushed Stainless Steel £1535 @ John Lewis & Partners
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Sage Oracle Touch Fully Automatic Bean-to-Cup Coffee Machine, Brushed Stainless Steel £1535 @ John Lewis & Partners

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Posted 29th Dec 2019

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Create a unique coffee experience from the comfort of your own home with the Oracle Touch Bean to Cup Coffee Machine from Sage, featuring everything you need for a professional, barista-style brew.

A full menu of café quality favourites
The Oracle Touch is a next generation, fully automatic espresso machine that brings true café quality coffee into your home and to your fingertips. Simply swipe through the interactive touchscreen menu, select your drink of choice from classics like Latte, Espresso, Americano, Flat White and Cappuccino, and enjoy.

Customised to taste
You can easily adjust the coffee strength, milk texture and temperature to suit your taste. Once you've mastered the perfect beverage, it can be saved into the Oracle Touch's menu with a unique name and picture. Create up to 8 personalised coffees for you and all the family, or your regular guests.

Perfect pressure
For the optimum velvety texture in your milk, you need the right steam pressure to draw in the air and create thousands of tiny bubbles. That’s why Sage have created the automatic steam wand, designed to turn your milk into a silky smooth micro-foam that's perfect for Latte art.

Coffee without compromise
Automatic coffee no longer comes with compromise thanks to clever automation at every stage, full-bodied flavour and silky milk texture at your control.

Become a barista
Delicious barista-style beverages start with just the right amount of coffee. With Sage's expert porta-filter, you can achieve the perfect quantity of 19-22g every time.
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31 Comments
chilly
Not a bad price but has been reduced cheaper twice this year.

I loved my sage oracle but the steam wand broke. Twice. It only seems to last a few years. Others have had the same problem so seems to be a design fault.

Hopefully they’ve fixed the design for the oracle touch.
After watching the first video... I want one now.
Resseh29/12/2019 11:31

Not a bad price but has been reduced cheaper twice this year. I loved my …Not a bad price but has been reduced cheaper twice this year. I loved my sage oracle but the steam wand broke. Twice. It only seems to last a few years. Others have had the same problem so seems to be a design fault. Hopefully they’ve fixed the design for the oracle touch.


For that price and the defect associated that is awful build quality!
coolio2829/12/2019 11:33

For that price and the defect associated that is awful build quality!


Bear in mind, the Sage Oracle is an older model. This is the newer Sage Oracle Touch, an updated product. Hopefully the issue, if indeed it was a design flaw, was addressed in the later model. Comes with a 2 year warranty.
coolio2829/12/2019 11:33

For that price and the defect associated that is awful build quality!


It’s when you take the end of the wand to clean it, the motion of turning the end off seems to turn the wires inside as well until eventually the wires strip themselves and causes a short. Once that happens the machine goes into error mode. (My terminology is probably way off!) I can get it off error mode by turning it about 0.1 mm but then the fit isn’t very tight and it gets gunked up with milk faster so I have to take it apart to clean again
Resseh29/12/2019 11:38

It’s when you take the end of the wand to clean it, the motion of turning t …It’s when you take the end of the wand to clean it, the motion of turning the end off seems to turn the wires inside as well until eventually the wires strip themselves and causes a short. Once that happens the machine goes into error mode. (My terminology is probably way off!) I can get it off error mode by turning it about 0.1 mm but then the fit isn’t very tight and it gets gunked up with milk faster so I have to take it apart to clean again


Did Sage do anything about it to fix it?
gbrandwood29/12/2019 11:35

Bear in mind, the Sage Oracle is an older model. This is the newer Sage …Bear in mind, the Sage Oracle is an older model. This is the newer Sage Oracle Touch, an updated product. Hopefully the issue, if indeed it was a design flaw, was addressed in the later model. Comes with a 2 year warranty.


Their warranty is great though. First time round they sent out an engineer, diagnosed the fault and then he came back to the house to replace it.

I haven’t enquires about the second time as it’s well past it’s warranty. It’s over 5 years old now. (I was wrong on my initial time scales. I’ve just checked - it first died after about 22 months)
Edited by: "Resseh" 29th Dec 2019
Near perfect for credit card thieves with a sense of humour. Steal peoples numbers and purchase said item to be delivered to the card owners home marked as gift.

"What the feck is this ????? I never ordered this !! "
"Were you drinking again last week ? You know what you're like when you drink too much ?"
"I didn't order this !!! I'm telling you - I didn't. I never would. It looks pretty cool though : How much is it ?"
Definately worth going for the Oracle Touch version vs the Touch if you can afford it; the auto tamper feature is well worth the difference in cost (ok, it’s close to £1000 for the upgrade), but the Oracle definitely produces a better coffee and a better steamed milk too.

The Touch is still a good little machine, I just think the Oracle Touch is much better all round. Have some heat!
I paid £55 recently for my nespresso.... Joking aside I don't know if this is a good deal or not but it's a lot to pay for a coffee machine no matter how good it is . Maybe more suitable for a cafe/restaurant??
What a bunch of elitist nonsense - vive le revolution
Wouldn't you be better with a gaggia classic pro for £399 and a decent grinder, paired together you would have an awesome set up
Ordered 1 for each wing of the house
I've found that coffee tastes just as good from a Cafetiere. You can easily clean them, they never go wrong, if you break them it only costs about £10 for a replacement glass, they don't take any worktop space and you can make 3 large cups in one go with just a few spoons of coffee and a kettle of water.

With these complicated machines you never know what's going on inside or if pipes the water goes through are even hygienic and they are impossible to clean.
Edited by: "caparn1" 29th Dec 2019
I've got the older oracle best coffee purchase I've ever made. You don't want the touch in my opinion prefer the physical buttons and you can get it for about 600 less
Kenneth13129/12/2019 12:33

Wouldn't you be better with a gaggia classic pro for £399 and a decent …Wouldn't you be better with a gaggia classic pro for £399 and a decent grinder, paired together you would have an awesome set up


That sounds like a good setup. Sure, there are plenty of other options for cheaper and decent coffee, or options that are more hands on - or hands off. I think the benefit of this is that it is almost entirely automated but still delivers good coffee and still lets you get involved (a little). Plus it has all the memory functions etc and is in one unit, one plug etc. And IMO looks great. But then again you have to pay for it.
caparn129/12/2019 12:53

I've found that coffee tastes just as good from a Cafetiere. You can …I've found that coffee tastes just as good from a Cafetiere. You can easily clean them, they never go wrong, if you break them it only costs about £10 for a replacement glass, they don't take any worktop space and you can make 3 large cups in one go with just a few spoons of coffee and a kettle of water.With these complicated machines you never know what's going on inside or if pipes the water goes through are even hygienic and they are impossible to clean.


Different type of coffee and complete different taste. Different beans, different flavour profile no microfoam dry foam etc. If you walk into a high street coffee chain and ask for filter coffee then fair play.

I've had mine for 3 years and has been faultless. Not like the 2 x nespresso and gaggia espresso machines before it.
Thelagrian29/12/2019 12:56

I've got the older oracle best coffee purchase I've ever made. You don't …I've got the older oracle best coffee purchase I've ever made. You don't want the touch in my opinion prefer the physical buttons and you can get it for about 600 less


I considered that but in my household, the touch screen will go down better I think. But agree it is an expensive option on an already expensive machine.
Edited by: "gbrandwood" 29th Dec 2019
Kenneth13129/12/2019 12:33

Wouldn't you be better with a gaggia classic pro for £399 and a decent …Wouldn't you be better with a gaggia classic pro for £399 and a decent grinder, paired together you would have an awesome set up


I found my oracle to be a lot more consistent than my old Gaggia.
gbrandwood29/12/2019 13:04

I considered that but in my household, the touch screen will go down …I considered that but in my household, the touch screen will go down better I think. But agree it is an expensive option on an already expensive machine.


Agreed the main advantage of this machine is the family being able to make true barista style coffee with auto grind, tamp and steam as well as myself who like to go a bit more low level
caparn129/12/2019 12:53

I've found that coffee tastes just as good from a Cafetiere. You can …I've found that coffee tastes just as good from a Cafetiere. You can easily clean them, they never go wrong, if you break them it only costs about £10 for a replacement glass, they don't take any worktop space and you can make 3 large cups in one go with just a few spoons of coffee and a kettle of water.With these complicated machines you never know what's going on inside or if pipes the water goes through are even hygienic and they are impossible to clean.


I’m not sure you understand the different styles/types of coffee available. Cafetière, or any drip filter, is very different to one produced from a shot of espresso.

You can’t compare this machine with a cafetière. Likewise, the result from a cafetière would vary enormously with different styles/quality of beans.
caparn129/12/2019 12:53

I've found that coffee tastes just as good from a Cafetiere. You can …I've found that coffee tastes just as good from a Cafetiere. You can easily clean them, they never go wrong, if you break them it only costs about £10 for a replacement glass, they don't take any worktop space and you can make 3 large cups in one go with just a few spoons of coffee and a kettle of water.With these complicated machines you never know what's going on inside or if pipes the water goes through are even hygienic and they are impossible to clean.


If you can't tell the difference then you haven't got the palate for great tasting coffee. There's a huge difference between Cafetiere coffee and a coffee from one of these machines. There's also a difference between using freshly ground beans and ready ground coffee.

As for the cleaning and hygeine, use a good quality descaler, rinse it through, and then follow this up with hydrogen peroxide/water mix and again rinse it through well. The hydorgen peroxide will kill anything.
I’ll be buying this when I win the lottery
With the price tag of £1600 this is for people who have money and don't know what to do with it.

It would take almost 9 years to get use worth out of it provided one cup of coffee is 50p (actually less but lets just be flamboyant) and you drink at least one a day. But by the 5th year this machine would become obsolete by the way.

Ridiculous price for a home small appliance, not even moderately professional coffee shop would buy.
simcolorstay29/12/2019 22:11

With the price tag of £1600 this is for people who have money and don't …With the price tag of £1600 this is for people who have money and don't know what to do with it.It would take almost 9 years to get use worth out of it provided one cup of coffee is 50p (actually less but lets just be flamboyant) and you drink at least one a day. But by the 5th year this machine would become obsolete by the way.Ridiculous price for a home small appliance, not even moderately professional coffee shop would buy.


It’s not designed for a coffee shop. A barista would take ages learning to froth the milk to a certain standard for coffee art whilst this machine will automatically do it. Your paying for the convenience.

I loved being able to make a flat white each morning to the standard of costa which would cost close to £3 a cup.
simcolorstay29/12/2019 22:11

With the price tag of £1600 this is for people who have money and don't …With the price tag of £1600 this is for people who have money and don't know what to do with it.It would take almost 9 years to get use worth out of it provided one cup of coffee is 50p (actually less but lets just be flamboyant) and you drink at least one a day. But by the 5th year this machine would become obsolete by the way.Ridiculous price for a home small appliance, not even moderately professional coffee shop would buy.


50p (or less) for a cafe quality espresso based drink? Where do you buy your coffee?

This is not the most expensive espresso machine on the market but I guess it is in the top tier.

People might buy this for lots of reasons. Very few would buy just because they have money and don't know what to do with it! That's quite a patronising statement. Most people on this site are after deals. If they didn't care what stuff costs they wouldn't be here
wingedmonkey29/12/2019 17:12

If you can't tell the difference then you haven't got the palate for great …If you can't tell the difference then you haven't got the palate for great tasting coffee. There's a huge difference between Cafetiere coffee and a coffee from one of these machines. There's also a difference between using freshly ground beans and ready ground coffee.As for the cleaning and hygeine, use a good quality descaler, rinse it through, and then follow this up with hydrogen peroxide/water mix and again rinse it through well. The hydorgen peroxide will kill anything.


I did once buy a good espresso machine (a Francis Francis X1), but really the coffee tastes the same from a Cafetiere if you are making normal coffee, obviously you can't make a shot of espresso from a Cafetiere but most people use their expensive coffee machine to make espressos then they add hot water and milk and end up with a normal coffee, which tastes the same as it would from a Cafetiere.

Do you think you could tell the difference between a normal coffee made in an espresso machine and one made in a Cafetiere that were both made with the same coffee? I think you'd struggle to get the right answer, maybe you'd succeed in getting it right 50% of the time.
caparn130/12/2019 17:43

I did once buy a good espresso machine (a Francis Francis X1), but really …I did once buy a good espresso machine (a Francis Francis X1), but really the coffee tastes the same from a Cafetiere if you are making normal coffee, obviously you can't make a shot of espresso from a Cafetiere but most people use their expensive coffee machine to make espressos then they add hot water and milk and end up with a normal coffee, which tastes the same as it would from a Cafetiere.Do you think you could tell the difference between a normal coffee made in an espresso machine and one made in a Cafetiere that were both made with the same coffee? I think you'd struggle to get the right answer, maybe you'd succeed in getting it right 50% of the time.


I could easily tell the difference. If you can't tell, just buy a cafetiere, but I can. True coffee purists would only drink theirs black, as that's when you experience the true flavour. That said, I'm a bit of a sucker for a soya flat white.

My fav all time coffee is from crosbycoffee.co.uk, a local company to me. 100% beans all the time, never get ready ground.
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