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With 60 unique settings, this programmable conical burr grinder maximizes the potential of any brew. Choose between 'cups' for French Press or Filter and 'shots' for Espresso to get the right dose for the coffee you're brewing. Grind directly into a portafilter or an air-tight container.

This grinder usually gets decent reviews, although some hobbyists don't stand by it. It's the best price I've seen in a few months at least.

Edit: as miffyl mentioned, you can add a £10 voucher, thus bringing the price down to £119.99 (voucher no longer applicable)
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There's a £10 voucher as well which brings the price down to £119.99
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Anyone recommend getting this and the duo temp or just get the barista express?
Nabeelkhuweis17/07/2019 13:30

Anyone recommend getting this and the duo temp or just get the barista …Anyone recommend getting this and the duo temp or just get the barista express?


try searching on r/coffee, i vaguely remember people asking about similar setups (if not that exact one)
Nabeelkhuweis17/07/2019 13:30

Anyone recommend getting this and the duo temp or just get the barista …Anyone recommend getting this and the duo temp or just get the barista express?


This grinder is far better than the grinder on the Express but the Express as a machine is better than the Duo Temp. (in my very humble opinion)
38093949-EaO8X.jpgWell can't vouch for the Barrista Express. But put quite a lot of effort into finding a coffee machine and grinder. After much thinking we got this grinder from John Lewis. It is rather good! And a Moccamaster KBGT 741 In black 'As New' from Amazon for about £140. Not the sexiest looking but makes continuously good coffee and the flask can keep it warm for quite a while with the seperate lid.
Edited by: "Biggushlong" 17th Jul
miffyl17/07/2019 13:49

This grinder is far better than the grinder on the Express but the Express …This grinder is far better than the grinder on the Express but the Express as a machine is better than the Duo Temp. (in my very humble opinion)


Agreed, however I went for this grinder and the Duo Temp as many people agree that if you don't get the grind right then it does not matter how good your machine is. I also like the idea of having them separate in case one breaks.

You could always buy an express and the pro but that would be a bit of a waste, however the Sage with the same spec grinder as the Pro is considerably more expensive.
I've been told that I should try using grinder. This looks like a good deal, but where do I see the photos of hot gay men?
I believe the one with the pro grinder is the Barista Touch which is £850 on Amazon
Nabeelkhuweis17/07/2019 13:30

Anyone recommend getting this and the duo temp or just get the barista …Anyone recommend getting this and the duo temp or just get the barista express?


I have been doing a lot of research over the past few months and just picked up the duo temp over the Barista Express, to replace my nespresso machine. I decided against the BE as althlough a lot more compact than 2 seperate devices, If I wanted to upgrade my espresso machine, I would have to get a grinder and vice versa.

I went with the DTP as its got the built in PID (93*c water temp) and pre-infuse which other models at this price or lower dont have, it also raises the temp of the steamer to 130*c which again a lot of the cheaper models don't. It lacks a selinoid valve, so you never really get a dry puck of coffee. But after having it 2 weeks and using pre-ground while decided on a grinder, I can say I am really pleased with what I am achieving so far, but I have a long way to go and lots to learn and read.

Next step was a grinder, which I ordered this one today and it was this after wanting to keep under to £200 mark, other option was the Baratza Encore or second hand Mazza Mini.

This isnt the best grinder, but for the money its a very good grinder, that is more than up to the job for an armature like myself, there are 60 grind settings, plus an additional 10 if you move the burrs. From what I understand its easy to dial in for new beans but grinds fine enough to get a decent crema and extraction. But also grinds coarse enough for the coffee press and filter machines we own also.

Now I am researching coffee bean roasters, but will probably start with Union available in Waitrose
I've done it all - PID temperature control, pressure monitoring, fancy tampers, sourcing and roasting my own single origin beans, built my own PID controlled roaster, getting the perfect grind to match the machine etc.

All I do now is chuck 2 spoons of Lavazza in a big mug, pour in boiling water, stir, and let the grounds settle. It's just as good as the perfect cup I used to chase
paolo17/07/2019 14:56

I've done it all - PID temperature control, pressure monitoring, fancy …I've done it all - PID temperature control, pressure monitoring, fancy tampers, sourcing and roasting my own single origin beans, built my own PID controlled roaster, getting the perfect grind to match the machine etc.All I do now is chuck 2 spoons of Lavazza in a big mug, pour in boiling water, stir, and let the grounds settle. It's just as good as the perfect cup I used to chase


Oo wow, you were really poor at this don't you? Singles are best for alts, like chemex or aeropress, not always good for espresso. Especially if it's lightly roasted. Anyway, comparing espresse to big black mug of coffee (mud) is...wow ;-) But I get it, not everyone has to like it and coffee snobs on forums/YT can make people believe that coffee/espresso is really something amazing for everyone and you just has to love it (similar to Apple brainwash)
It's ok - you'll get over it
Slim2k17/07/2019 14:20

I have been doing a lot of research over the past few months and just …I have been doing a lot of research over the past few months and just picked up the duo temp over the Barista Express, to replace my nespresso machine. I decided against the BE as althlough a lot more compact than 2 seperate devices, If I wanted to upgrade my espresso machine, I would have to get a grinder and vice versa. I went with the DTP as its got the built in PID (93*c water temp) and pre-infuse which other models at this price or lower dont have, it also raises the temp of the steamer to 130*c which again a lot of the cheaper models don't. It lacks a selinoid valve, so you never really get a dry puck of coffee. But after having it 2 weeks and using pre-ground while decided on a grinder, I can say I am really pleased with what I am achieving so far, but I have a long way to go and lots to learn and read.Next step was a grinder, which I ordered this one today and it was this after wanting to keep under to £200 mark, other option was the Baratza Encore or second hand Mazza Mini.This isnt the best grinder, but for the money its a very good grinder, that is more than up to the job for an armature like myself, there are 60 grind settings, plus an additional 10 if you move the burrs. From what I understand its easy to dial in for new beans but grinds fine enough to get a decent crema and extraction. But also grinds coarse enough for the coffee press and filter machines we own also.Now I am researching coffee bean roasters, but will probably start with Union available in Waitrose


Try Drury coffee stores
Slim2k17/07/2019 14:20

I have been doing a lot of research over the past few months and just …I have been doing a lot of research over the past few months and just picked up the duo temp over the Barista Express, to replace my nespresso machine. I decided against the BE as althlough a lot more compact than 2 seperate devices, If I wanted to upgrade my espresso machine, I would have to get a grinder and vice versa. I went with the DTP as its got the built in PID (93*c water temp) and pre-infuse which other models at this price or lower dont have, it also raises the temp of the steamer to 130*c which again a lot of the cheaper models don't. It lacks a selinoid valve, so you never really get a dry puck of coffee. But after having it 2 weeks and using pre-ground while decided on a grinder, I can say I am really pleased with what I am achieving so far, but I have a long way to go and lots to learn and read.Next step was a grinder, which I ordered this one today and it was this after wanting to keep under to £200 mark, other option was the Baratza Encore or second hand Mazza Mini.This isnt the best grinder, but for the money its a very good grinder, that is more than up to the job for an armature like myself, there are 60 grind settings, plus an additional 10 if you move the burrs. From what I understand its easy to dial in for new beans but grinds fine enough to get a decent crema and extraction. But also grinds coarse enough for the coffee press and filter machines we own also.Now I am researching coffee bean roasters, but will probably start with Union available in Waitrose



Union are good but actually most are good - these companies are usually small and depend on repeat orders to survive. Union are in some supermarkets though as you say - I'd just watch out for roast date on those bags, if there is one.

I've subs with HasBean and Pact at the moment but there are loads to choose from and you may have locals where you can go and chat to them, get advice, get some small samples rather than 250g bags...

thecoffeeroasters.co.uk/pag…-uk

(But may be out of date to just google coffee roasters for your area)
As for the deal, great price for a good home grinder which is better suited to espresso than filter. I have a Wilfa Svart as I just make filter, Aeropress and Moka (it's not really suitable for espresso) - it's £89 delivered with a free bag of coffee from York Emporium for anyone after a grinder for everything except espresso.
Biggushlong17/07/2019 13:53

[Image] Well can't vouch for the Barrista Express. But put quite a lot of …[Image] Well can't vouch for the Barrista Express. But put quite a lot of effort into finding a coffee machine and grinder. After much thinking we got this grinder from John Lewis. It is rather good! And a Moccamaster KBGT 741 In black 'As New' from Amazon for about £140. Not the sexiest looking but makes continuously good coffee and the flask can keep it warm for quite a while with the seperate lid.


My exact setup, does a great job for me.
loonyjetman17/07/2019 17:26

As for the deal, great price for a good home grinder which is better …As for the deal, great price for a good home grinder which is better suited to espresso than filter. I have a Wilfa Svart as I just make filter, Aeropress and Moka (it's not really suitable for espresso) - it's £89 delivered with a free bag of coffee from York Emporium for anyone after a grinder for everything except espresso.


been planning on buying the svart for some time but this deal made me rethink it. my main use is for filter coffee (aeropress, french and eventually pour over). however, getting something that would also do an acceptable espresso grind is interesting, as i'd like to get an espresso machine eventually (probably a sage/breville as the other acceptable ones are way too expensive).

i've been eyeing the bundle from workshop coffee: 125 for the svart + bag of coffee + v60 + paper filters + decanter + a cheap scale.

my main gripe with the svart is that weird "cup" (grounds holder?) it has. this one has a much better one. at the same time i've read it's not that reliable as some parts wear down fairly easily and the manufacturer does not sell them. there's also some people saying it produces far too many fines for filter coffee.
I have this grinder - recommended
I've a 10 year old Dualit 75002.

Apart from matching my Sage Duo Temp machine does anyone know if this is going to deliver a superior grind performance that justifies the outlay?
Slim2k17/07/2019 14:20

I have been doing a lot of research over the past few months and just …I have been doing a lot of research over the past few months and just picked up the duo temp over the Barista Express, to replace my nespresso machine. I decided against the BE as althlough a lot more compact than 2 seperate devices, If I wanted to upgrade my espresso machine, I would have to get a grinder and vice versa. I went with the DTP as its got the built in PID (93*c water temp) and pre-infuse which other models at this price or lower dont have, it also raises the temp of the steamer to 130*c which again a lot of the cheaper models don't. It lacks a selinoid valve, so you never really get a dry puck of coffee. But after having it 2 weeks and using pre-ground while decided on a grinder, I can say I am really pleased with what I am achieving so far, but I have a long way to go and lots to learn and read.Next step was a grinder, which I ordered this one today and it was this after wanting to keep under to £200 mark, other option was the Baratza Encore or second hand Mazza Mini.This isnt the best grinder, but for the money its a very good grinder, that is more than up to the job for an armature like myself, there are 60 grind settings, plus an additional 10 if you move the burrs. From what I understand its easy to dial in for new beans but grinds fine enough to get a decent crema and extraction. But also grinds coarse enough for the coffee press and filter machines we own also.Now I am researching coffee bean roasters, but will probably start with Union available in Waitrose


Good advice from @loonyjetman . Definitely consider ordering fresh online from Union if you can rather than buying from a supermarket. Union Roasted are one of my favourite roasters, but also enjoying Coffelink and Adams & Russell who both do very good value larger amounts. All three do a great Yirgacheffe.

Baratza Encore is excellent, very consistent, but like the Wilfa, not really for espresso. Better to spend a little more if serious about your espresso. Makes no sense for the grinder to cost less than the pump machine.
Edited by: "Pokey" 17th Jul
Noeldude17/07/2019 18:09

I've a 10 year old Dualit 75002.Apart from matching my Sage Duo Temp …I've a 10 year old Dualit 75002.Apart from matching my Sage Duo Temp machine does anyone know if this is going to deliver a superior grind performance that justifies the outlay?


I am not a Dualit expect but I expect it will definately be a step up, esp if you have never replaced the burrs.

I came from the highly rated Iberital MC2 (for the price) and its a world apart, especially since dialling in different beans or grind was such a pain on the MC2 that you had to stick to the same beans/brew for the rest of your life (or the life of the MC2) 😁
tommyturnip17/07/2019 19:33

... dialling in different beans or grind was such a pain on the MC2 that …... dialling in different beans or grind was such a pain on the MC2 that you had to stick to the same beans/brew for the rest of your life (or the life of the MC2) 😁


Yes, good point. Changing the grind is pretty imprecise on the Dualit.

You've talked me into it
Noeldude17/07/2019 20:31

Yes, good point. Changing the grind is pretty imprecise on the Dualit. …Yes, good point. Changing the grind is pretty imprecise on the Dualit. You've talked me into it


Me too.
Voucher has expired - much to my frustration as my payment failed
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loonyjetman17/07/2019 17:20

Union are good but actually most are good - these companies are usually …Union are good but actually most are good - these companies are usually small and depend on repeat orders to survive. Union are in some supermarkets though as you say - I'd just watch out for roast date on those bags, if there is one.I've subs with HasBean and Pact at the moment but there are loads to choose from and you may have locals where you can go and chat to them, get advice, get some small samples rather than 250g bags...https://thecoffeeroasters.co.uk/pages/a-big-list-of-coffee-roasters-in-uk(But may be out of date to just google coffee roasters for your area)



How do you find Pact, I have it was the wife's B'day yesterday and she had 3 vouchers for money off in 2 orders and some flowers, so I kind of dismissed them as being a bit of a naked wine for coffee. I did lime some of their "Micro batches" and single origins though.


Pokey17/07/2019 18:21

Good advice from @loonyjetman . Definitely consider ordering fresh online …Good advice from @loonyjetman . Definitely consider ordering fresh online from Union if you can rather than buying from a supermarket. Union Roasted are one of my favourite roasters, but also enjoying Coffelink and Adams & Russell who both do very good value larger amounts. All three do a great Yirgacheffe.Baratza Encore is excellent, very consistent, but like the Wilfa, not really for espresso. Better to spend a little more if serious about your espresso. Makes no sense for the grinder to cost less than the pump machine.



Will check out coffelink and Adams & Russell.


I have my eye on coaltown coffee and uncommon grounds being welsh, grinder is due tomorrow, but is my B'day present. Hoping I am not going to have to wait until Sept, but as soon as its running, I'll dial in with some cheap beans to start and then get hold of some decent beans.
rmvt17/07/2019 17:42

been planning on buying the svart for some time but this deal made me …been planning on buying the svart for some time but this deal made me rethink it. my main use is for filter coffee (aeropress, french and eventually pour over). however, getting something that would also do an acceptable espresso grind is interesting, as i'd like to get an espresso machine eventually (probably a sage/breville as the other acceptable ones are way too expensive).i've been eyeing the bundle from workshop coffee: 125 for the svart + bag of coffee + v60 + paper filters + decanter + a cheap scale.my main gripe with the svart is that weird "cup" (grounds holder?) it has. this one has a much better one. at the same time i've read it's not that reliable as some parts wear down fairly easily and the manufacturer does not sell them. there's also some people saying it produces far too many fines for filter coffee.



I had been procrastinating on which grinder to get for hmmm 6+ months (analysis paralysis!) but was really sick of churning away on my 'me powered' Porlex so just went for the Wilfa. I think the Wilfa, Encore and the Sage in this deal all have good and bad sides. I've read loads of people slating the Sage for problems/QC and others praising it, and same for the Encore.

Thing is if you want a really good all round grinder then you're maybe looking at a Comandante hand grinder or the big Rok or a Niche for electric. The Rok is good value but it's big, and not perfect. If I was getting into espresso I'd probably buy an espresso-only focussed grinder, maybe a refurb commercial, rather than the Sage which (I think from what I've read) is a good but not great espresso grinder and not great for coarser grinds such as filter, but the problem with reviews is you own personal experience is often different

At £130 the Sage is stonking value for money.

The Wilfa makes lovely v60 and aeropress, at least to my taste. I tend to favour single origin med-light roasts.

Yes the grinds collector is a slightly weird shape but it's not difficult to use - you just flip the lid and pour out of the corner then give it a light tap if need be but I haven't had retention from static, well, tiny tiny amounts.

Sorry, I don't have a Kruve set to check for fines but, well, that's only one variable that goes into the end result and I honestly don't know if it's a big one. I'd be more worried about those Salter "brewing" scales and decanter in that brewing pack.

Just to add the 'Ninth Blend' coffee that York Emporium sent with my Wilfa is bloody lovely - probably more suited to milk-based espresso drinks from the looks and smells of it (and being a blend) but it's tasty black and even better with a small dash of milk in filter/presso form to boost up the chocolatey flavour but you lose the fruity/orangey flavour (yeah, not exactly a 'pro' at the tasting notes me lol!)
loonyjetman18/07/2019 15:45

I had been procrastinating on which grinder to get for hmmm 6+ months …I had been procrastinating on which grinder to get for hmmm 6+ months (analysis paralysis!) but was really sick of churning away on my 'me powered' Porlex so just went for the Wilfa. I think the Wilfa, Encore and the Sage in this deal all have good and bad sides. I've read loads of people slating the Sage for problems/QC and others praising it, and same for the Encore.Thing is if you want a really good all round grinder then you're maybe looking at a Comandante hand grinder or the big Rok or a Niche for electric. The Rok is good value but it's big, and not perfect. If I was getting into espresso I'd probably buy an espresso-only focussed grinder, maybe a refurb commercial, rather than the Sage which (I think from what I've read) is a good but not great espresso grinder and not great for coarser grinds such as filter, but the problem with reviews is you own personal experience is often different At £130 the Sage is stonking value for money.The Wilfa makes lovely v60 and aeropress, at least to my taste. I tend to favour single origin med-light roasts.Yes the grinds collector is a slightly weird shape but it's not difficult to use - you just flip the lid and pour out of the corner then give it a light tap if need be but I haven't had retention from static, well, tiny tiny amounts.Sorry, I don't have a Kruve set to check for fines but, well, that's only one variable that goes into the end result and I honestly don't know if it's a big one. I'd be more worried about those Salter "brewing" scales and decanter in that brewing pack.Just to add the 'Ninth Blend' coffee that York Emporium sent with my Wilfa is bloody lovely - probably more suited to milk-based espresso drinks from the looks and smells of it (and being a blend) but it's tasty black and even better with a small dash of milk in filter/presso form to boost up the chocolatey flavour but you lose the fruity/orangey flavour (yeah, not exactly a 'pro' at the tasting notes me lol!)


It's easy to over think all this sort of thing. The Sage grinder is really very good, consistent and capable of grinding well for espresso. A good match for most domestic espresso machines.

To go further you'd spend a hell of a lot more for a small incremental improvement. That comes with its own issues. I had an E61 grouphead machine which needed preheating for about an hour before it cluld be used, needed leaving on constantly, using loads of electricity, terribly unforgiving, needing more practise than anyone making a handful of drinks a day can ever get. And loads of maintenance. I got rid and downgraded earlier in the year to a Sage Barista Pro, in which the integrated grinder is a bit of an unexpected gem. Thought I'd regret it deeply but it's the best thing I could have done.
Slim2k18/07/2019 14:25

How do you find Pact, I have it was the wife's B'day yesterday and she had …How do you find Pact, I have it was the wife's B'day yesterday and she had 3 vouchers for money off in 2 orders and some flowers, so I kind of dismissed them as being a bit of a naked wine for coffee. I did lime some of their "Micro batches" and single origins though.Will check out coffelink and Adams & Russell. I have my eye on coaltown coffee and uncommon grounds being welsh, grinder is due tomorrow, but is my B'day present. Hoping I am not going to have to wait until Sept, but as soon as its running, I'll dial in with some cheap beans to start and then get hold of some decent beans.



I haven't had my first Pact bag yet so I'll come back to this next week if I remember I had a £5 off voucher from somewhere, maybe here, so if the first bag is not to my liking then it's only cost me a few quid and I can cancel. However, I am hoping it will be delicious of course. I toyed with a Tim Wendelboe sub but it's expensive and I don't wanna pay that much. Wish more would do smaller/taster bags/trials but I appreciate they have costs and postage.
Never been that impressed by Pact, but these days they have a very broad selection and they arr definitely the real thing; not a wine club type of thing. But always felt that presentation was better than the coffee.
Pokey18/07/2019 19:11

Never been that impressed by Pact, but these days they have a very broad …Never been that impressed by Pact, but these days they have a very broad selection and they arr definitely the real thing; not a wine club type of thing. But always felt that presentation was better than the coffee.


What option/tier did you got for Pokey - micro lots..? They are offering £5 vouchers for referrals too so I guess looking to boost customer base quickly.
We’re all addicted to the black stuff:{
loonyjetman18/07/2019 19:28

What option/tier did you got for Pokey - micro lots..? They are offering …What option/tier did you got for Pokey - micro lots..? They are offering £5 vouchers for referrals too so I guess looking to boost customer base quickly.


They didn't offer the selection they do now when I used them. They were one of the first to offer a subscription model and always have an introductory offer on. Think they must do okay to have been going so long and expanded their offer.
Grinder has arrived from amazon, just in its own box. No other packaging. Did anyone elses turn up like this?
Slim2k19/07/2019 14:57

Grinder has arrived from amazon, just in its own box. No other packaging. …Grinder has arrived from amazon, just in its own box. No other packaging. Did anyone elses turn up like this?


They often do this, to cut down on packaging. There is a warning at checkout with an option to have it packaged in another box to hide your order.
Pokey19/07/2019 15:08

They often do this, to cut down on packaging. There is a warning at …They often do this, to cut down on packaging. There is a warning at checkout with an option to have it packaged in another box to hide your order.


I dont usually care, I think that Amazon over package 95% of orders,especially the cheap memory cards and cables etc. But would have liked to have seen a little more on this, I know its not super expensive, but its not cheap.
@Slim2k My bag of Pact turned up today but I've been out all day so not tried yet. It smells nice anyway ha! I will report back. Here's the bag...
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