Samsung 49"NU8000 4K UHD TV - £549 with email offer @ BT Shop

Waiting for ...'cold was cheaper in december so cant justify this price'

Or...'cold only 60hz get 55inch as 120hz'

Any experience of how poor the picture is at wider angles on this TV?

TheGos21/02/2019 16:52

Waiting for ...'cold was cheaper in december so cant justify this …Waiting for ...'cold was cheaper in december so cant justify this price'Or...'cold only 60hz get 55inch as 120hz'Read lessRead more

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I’m not going to lie, I tried to avail of that offer at the time but was t lucky enough to get the deal. I ended up buying the 55” nu8000 from richer sounds in the end

Yeah I'm a bit confused about the hz on this because I'm on an Xbox one x and it outputs at 4k 60hz, so this set should be a good fit? At 120hz I'd be getting double fr but still the same frames, as in pictures, per second?

Meathotukdeals21/02/2019 17:24

Yeah I'm a bit confused about the hz on this because I'm on an Xbox one x …Yeah I'm a bit confused about the hz on this because I'm on an Xbox one x and it outputs at 4k 60hz, so this set should be a good fit? At 120hz I'd be getting double fr but still the same frames, as in pictures, per second?Read lessRead more

You'd need to turn 120hz off for gaming or it will look weird and (I think)affect your input lag. The faster frame rate is just down to processing done by the TV to make movement appear smoother.

I've always thought it looks unnatural and turn it off as soon as I buy a new TV.

reptilemonkey121/02/2019 17:35

You'd need to turn 120hz off for gaming or it will look weird and (I …You'd need to turn 120hz off for gaming or it will look weird and (I think)affect your input lag. The faster frame rate is just down to processing done by the TV to make movement appear smoother.I've always thought it looks unnatural and turn it off as soon as I buy a new TV.Read lessRead more

Interesting but contra to the norm I've read about higher frequency being better. That's the good thing about listening to real people sometimes over 'review sites' getting affiliate money from their recommendations.

You are all waiting.... historic low Dec 27th Samsung UE49NU8000 £389.40 with 5 year warranty.

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Meathotukdeals21/02/2019 17:39

Interesting but contra to the norm I've read about higher frequency being …Interesting but contra to the norm I've read about higher frequency being better. That's the good thing about listening to real people sometimes over 'review sites' getting affiliate money from their recommendations.Read lessRead more

A monitor with a higher refresh rate will often provide lower latency, because it is able to read frames from the GPU faster.

When TVs mention higher refresh rates they often mean something completely different. They're talking about "motion clarity" where the TV will generate intermediate frames from a 60Hz or lower signal, to make motion appear smoother. The processing often makes latency much higher, making input lag worse for games.

This or the 50 7400 model but only £399

How longs the guarantee

michael.hayes1 h, 12 m ago

‌ ‌ I’m not going to lie, I tried to avail of that offer at the t …‌ ‌ I’m not going to lie, I tried to avail of that offer at the time but was t lucky enough to get the deal. I ended up buying the 55” nu8000 from richer sounds in the endRead lessRead more

I got it back in december for the reduced price and i know someone always put that comment lol

And for info i have this 49inch version and motion is fine..well i cant find a problem with it and footy looks good

Dantonir21/02/2019 18:00

A monitor with a higher refresh rate will often provide lower latency, …A monitor with a higher refresh rate will often provide lower latency, because it is able to read frames from the GPU faster.When TVs mention higher refresh rates they often mean something completely different. They're talking about "motion clarity" where the TV will generate intermediate frames from a 60Hz or lower signal, to make motion appear smoother. The processing often makes latency much higher, making input lag worse for games.Read lessRead more

So a TV might interpolate and that process is intensive enough to create a ' latency bottleneck'?

Common.Sense51 m ago

You are all waiting.... historic low Dec 27th Samsung UE49NU8000 £389.40 …You are all waiting.... historic low Dec 27th Samsung UE49NU8000 £389.40 with 5 year warranty.https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/40-off-selected-samsung-tvs-samsung-experience-store-3151247Not available now, but useful for a comparison.I hope this helps somone!Now vote this as hot, if you wish!Read lessRead more

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reptilemonkey158 m ago

You'd need to turn 120hz off for gaming or it will look weird and (I …You'd need to turn 120hz off for gaming or it will look weird and (I think)affect your input lag. The faster frame rate is just down to processing done by the TV to make movement appear smoother.I've always thought it looks unnatural and turn it off as soon as I buy a new TV.Read lessRead more

Ok having read another reply...are you seeing a blurry image ( TV produced) then a 'real' frame then a blurry frame etc?

Meathotukdeals21/02/2019 18:28

So a TV might interpolate and that process is intensive enough to create a …So a TV might interpolate and that process is intensive enough to create a ' latency bottleneck'?Read lessRead more

If the TV is receiving 60 frames a second, it still needs to output the frames at the same speed, so it's not a performance bottleneck as such.

When you enable any image processing on the TV it will need to analyse the incoming frame and perform calculations. For frame interpolation it needs to buffer multiple frames to construct ones in between. To do this fast enough there's a processing pipeline (like a factory production line) with multiple frames being processed in parallel at different stages.

So while the time between one input frame and the next is always 16ms, the time taken for any single frame to get through the pipeline and onto the screen could be 100-200ms. For non-interactive media this isn't a problem as you don't notice the whole thing started a fraction of a second late, but when you press a button you want to see the result as soon as possible, not 200ms later.

Dantonir21/02/2019 18:42

If the TV is receiving 60 frames a second, it still needs to output the …If the TV is receiving 60 frames a second, it still needs to output the frames at the same speed, so it's not a performance bottleneck as such.When you enable any image processing on the TV it will need to analyse the incoming frame and perform calculations. For frame interpolation it needs to buffer multiple frames to construct ones in between. To do this fast enough there's a processing pipeline (like a factory production line) with multiple frames being processed in parallel at different stages.So while the time between one input frame and the next is always 16ms, the time taken for any single frame to get through the pipeline and onto the screen could be 100-200ms. For non-interactive media this isn't a problem as you don't notice the whole thing started a fraction of a second late, but when you press a button you want to see the result as soon as possible, not 200ms later.Read lessRead more

Thanks. So you are saying 60hz panel is the sweet spot for 60hz games and higher panel hz can only be as good as 60hz panel at best? TV and Xbox one x.

How much better than the NU7400 is this?

120hz is the sweet spot for gaming on this as it has the lowest lag. If I'm playing online i do it at 1440p @ 120hz.
Edit: on the 55" sorry

Meathotukdeals21/02/2019 18:57

Thanks. So you are saying 60hz panel is the sweet spot for 60hz games and …Thanks. So you are saying 60hz panel is the sweet spot for 60hz games and higher panel hz can only be as good as 60hz panel at best? TV and Xbox one x.Read lessRead more

What's important is the TV's input latency at its lowest. There's usually a Game Mode that will disable as much processing as possible, including motion interpolation, and just display images as fast as possible. Unfortunately manufacturers rarely advertise these numbers, so it's best to look them up on review sites.

Having just looked this TV up on rtings, it looks like it does support real 120Hz refresh at 1080p, not just motion interpolation. So the fastest input latency at 1080p 120Hz is just 10.6ms. 4K 60Hz in game mode is about 18ms and 4K outside of game mode 57.5ms. It also supports variable refresh rates which can further reduce input lag. All in all it looks like a very good set in this regard.

Dantonir21/02/2019 19:53

What's important is the TV's input latency at its lowest. There's usually …What's important is the TV's input latency at its lowest. There's usually a Game Mode that will disable as much processing as possible, including motion interpolation, and just display images as fast as possible. Unfortunately manufacturers rarely advertise these numbers, so it's best to look them up on review sites.Having just looked this TV up on rtings, it looks like it does support real 120Hz refresh at 1080p, not just motion interpolation. So the fastest input latency at 1080p 120Hz is just 10.6ms. 4K 60Hz in game mode is about 18ms and 4K outside of game mode 57.5ms. It also supports variable refresh rates which can further reduce input lag. All in all it looks like a very good set in this regard.Read lessRead more

This one doesn't have freesync (variable refresh rates?) according to displayninja.com/bes…-x/

Meathotukdeals21/02/2019 20:06

This one doesn't have freesync (variable refresh rates?) according to …This one doesn't have freesync (variable refresh rates?) according to https://www.displayninja.com/best-tv-for-gaming-on-ps4-pro-and-xbox-one-x/Read lessRead more

Ah, good point. I didn't notice that was only on the larger NU8000 models. The 49" is missing the 120Hz mode and Freesync/VRR.
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Dantonir1 h, 27 m ago

Ah, good point. I didn't notice that was only on the larger NU8000 models. …Ah, good point. I didn't notice that was only on the larger NU8000 models. The 49" is missing the 120Hz mode and Freesync/VRR. Read lessRead more

But that isn't bad for 60fps (we didn't talk VRR) Don't worry. Buying a TV seems like a minefield with all the variations.

For anyone interested in buying this TV, it is available from box.co.uk for £549.99 with 5 year warranty and free delivery included. They have a physical store as well, so if you prefer you would be able to get John Lewis to price match at £549.99 too - I've successfully got them to price match items with Box.co.uk before.

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I got this TV from AO via price matching RLR Distribution for £506

2019 TVs out next month, anyone know launch prices as 49" is 120hz, rest are now 240hz