Samsung ATIV Win 8 Pro Tablet PC @ Dabs £399.98
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Samsung ATIV Win 8 Pro Tablet PC @ Dabs £399.98

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Found 7th Aug 2013
Representing an optimistic £200 price drop, this is certainly a discount from the historical retail price.

Not the cheapest Windows 8 Tablet computer deal, but for those inclined to favour the Samsung Galaxy range of products within the Android marketplace, this is basically the 'Galaxy Note' of Windows 8 devices.

No keyboard dock included as standard, but this baby does have the Wacom-style S-Pen found on the Galaxy Note range, for stylus based note-taking, device navigation, drawing etc.

No, it doesn't have the i5 CPU found in the Surface Pro. Yes, it has an Atom CPU just like the Dell and ASUS offerings.

As a Dell user I can vouch for the Atom in these things being perfectly nippy for the vast majority of computing needs, and Windows 8, contrary to the usual hater waffle, is quite an experience on a tablet.

This Samsung ATIV features a slightly larger real estate than its rivals, and although the price premium for the Wacom functionality would seem to be a clear £98 ahead of the average price for a discounted Win8 tablet, I'd be well pleased with the build quality and battery life on this beastie.

Nonetheless, submitted for those who are interested.

No, it's not an iPad. That's why it's worth considering as a serious tablet computer - for the same price or less than an equivalent iPad.

If you can find an equivalent iPad, that is...

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Nice to see reality finally setting in with these prices.

I still have my hopes up for a £499 Haswell i5 Surface Pro 2.

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FlappyPappy

Nice to see reality finally setting in with these prices. I still have my … Nice to see reality finally setting in with these prices. I still have my hopes up for a £499 Haswell i5 Surface Pro 2.



Now THAT would be a revolution.

But I agree. It's really good to see this emerging platform starting to get competitive.

I'm actually glad that I got the Dell when I did, because seeing this deal would have made me want to spend £130 more!

Pretty pricey given the Asus MC400 is available from Argos from £299 (the Dell Latitude 10 is even cheaper from the Dell Outlet...£220 + VAT for the bare bones 64GB model, £260+VAT for the 4 cell, W8 Pro, 3G model)

This just doesn't seem like much of a deal given the prices of those other two tabs. I highly recommend Windows 8 on these tabs by the way...the Intel Atom performs admirably.

zerospin

Pretty pricey given the Asus MC400 is available from Argos from £299 (the … Pretty pricey given the Asus MC400 is available from Argos from £299 (the Dell Latitude 10 is even cheaper from the Dell Outlet...£220 + VAT for the bare bones 64GB model, £260+VAT for the 4 cell, W8 Pro, 3G model)This just doesn't seem like much of a deal given the prices of those other two tabs. I highly recommend Windows 8 on these tabs by the way...the Intel Atom performs admirably.



8 is great, i have it on most of my machines even though i never use the Metro start. Just install Classic Shell and it's pretty much just like 7, but with much better performance (yes - really). And thats before 8.1 comes out improving things even further.

with the samsung ativ tab 3 on the horizon, with similar specs (apart from the windows 8 pro) i think this had to come down in price.

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zerospin

Pretty pricey given the Asus MC400 is available from Argos from £299 (the … Pretty pricey given the Asus MC400 is available from Argos from £299 (the Dell Latitude 10 is even cheaper from the Dell Outlet...£220 + VAT for the bare bones 64GB model, £260+VAT for the 4 cell, W8 Pro, 3G model)This just doesn't seem like much of a deal given the prices of those other two tabs. I highly recommend Windows 8 on these tabs by the way...the Intel Atom performs admirably.



I know what you're saying, but to be fair the value of the deal is not how cheap the device is compared to another similar device from another manufacturer, but how good value it is compared to its own historic price.

The 'Note' range of devices from Samsung are well-regarded in a category of their own.

SampleX

I know what you're saying, but to be fair the value of the deal is not … I know what you're saying, but to be fair the value of the deal is not how cheap the device is compared to another similar device from another manufacturer, but how good value it is compared to its own historic price.The 'Note' range of devices from Samsung are well-regarded in a category of their own.



I think we all recognise that RRP's are often vastly inflated. Aside from the 11.6" screen, where does this excel in comparison to say the £220+VAT Dell Latitude?...(genuine question)

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zerospin

I think we all recognise that RRP's are often vastly inflated. Aside from … I think we all recognise that RRP's are often vastly inflated. Aside from the 11.6" screen, where does this excel in comparison to say the £220+VAT Dell Latitude?...(genuine question)



First, the Dell's you're talking about are returns and scratch & dent - guaranteed but not new and retail boxed. Second, the tablets include a Samsung S-Pen and whatever software layer they included for that function. The battery life *may* be more substantial out of the box, and some people prefer the Samsung brand and form.

By all means compare the Sammy and the ASUS, but I think the Dell is an exceptional comparison.

I'm happy with my Dell, but that doesn't mean the Samsung deal sucks.

SampleX

First, the Dell's you're talking about are returns and scratch & dent - … First, the Dell's you're talking about are returns and scratch & dent - guaranteed but not new and retail boxed. Second, the tablets include a Samsung S-Pen and whatever software layer they included for that function. The battery life *may* be more substantial out of the box, and some people prefer the Samsung brand and form.By all means compare the Sammy and the ASUS, but I think the Dell is an exceptional comparison.I'm happy with my Dell, but that doesn't mean the Samsung deal sucks.



Fair play...though from what I hear, those that purchase the refurbs from Dell are universally pleased with them. The scratch and dent models are a little more suspect (mine included).
Personally, I don't consider 1.6" of screen & the s-pen to be worth £150 - particularly as the Dell is already Wacom pen ready.
It's good to see prices dropping across the segment though...it'll hopefully put more tablets in users hands, and get more apps in the Windows Store.

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zerospin

Fair play...though from what I hear, those that purchase the refurbs from … Fair play...though from what I hear, those that purchase the refurbs from Dell are universally pleased with them. The scratch and dent models are a little more suspect (mine included). Personally, I don't consider 1.6" of screen & the s-pen to be worth £150 - particularly as the Dell is already Wacom pen ready.It's good to see prices dropping across the segment though...it'll hopefully put more tablets in users hands, and get more apps in the Windows Store.



That's the spirit.

Some people don't want a black Dell slate. It didn't put me off. If the Samsung was £50 cheaper, I might have considered it. Just like one day I might consider the Dell pen, which will increase the cost of my hardware and make the hump to the Samsung price lower. I suspect that the bigger screen is an inch and a bit too much for me, though I've seen occasions when it would have been useful.

But looking at the history of Dell Streak, we really need innovative market-changing brands on board. For that reason I appreciate what Samsung have on offer.

Luck of the draw, my scratch n dent was immaculate, although the prices did drop a week later.

SampleX

That's the spirit.Some people don't want a black Dell slate. It didn't … That's the spirit.Some people don't want a black Dell slate. It didn't put me off. If the Samsung was £50 cheaper, I might have considered it. Just like one day I might consider the Dell pen, which will increase the cost of my hardware and make the hump to the Samsung price lower. I suspect that the bigger screen is an inch and a bit too much for me, though I've seen occasions when it would have been useful.But looking at the history of Dell Streak, we really need innovative market-changing brands on board. For that reason I appreciate what Samsung have on offer.Luck of the draw, my scratch n dent was immaculate, although the prices did drop a week later.



My scratch and dent had a faulty volume control, a non working system restore partition and a hot spot on the screen. Dell CS have come up with a more than acceptable resolution;
20% discount on my initial bill (£208 final price), & a refurb rather than a scratch and dent as the replacement device. (Not bad for Win8 Pro, 4 cell, HSPA, 64GB).
I can see the value that Samsung bring to the market - though I must admit, I'm not much of a fan of their business practices or their scatter gun approach to product releases (with pretty poor after sales care)

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zerospin

My scratch and dent had a faulty volume control, a non working system … My scratch and dent had a faulty volume control, a non working system restore partition and a hot spot on the screen. Dell CS have come up with a more than acceptable resolution; 20% discount on my initial bill (£208 final price), & a refurb rather than a scratch and dent as the replacement device. (Not bad for Win8 Pro, 4 cell, HSPA, 64GB).



Oh man, now that's a deal. I'd be sorely tempted to put the saving into a 2 cell battery for portability but that's just me.

SampleX

Oh man, now that's a deal. I'd be sorely tempted to put the saving into a … Oh man, now that's a deal. I'd be sorely tempted to put the saving into a 2 cell battery for portability but that's just me.



Yep - I pretty much bit the arm off the CS when she offered 20% discount & a refurb replacement! I am planning to use mine for video editing/uploading/general research whilst cycle touring later this year. All in all, I'm extremely pleased with my Latitude! As I am sure others will be if they go for this Samsung, or the Asus in the other thread. Great, versatile devices .... and a marked improvement on the experience I had with my one and only Android tablet.

I go my Samsung Ativ 500T good machine but don't like battery. .

I had a Latitude 10 and it didn’t match my needs so returned it. The next generation of Atoms due to be announced in September and available in Q4 I think is a real game changer. So there should be some good deals on the current systems but for someone looking for a convertible I’d suggest waiting for the new platform. Much faster CPU plus support for more RAM will really help in laptop mode for a convertible.

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SmilingCrow

I had a Latitude 10 and it didn’t match my needs so returned it. The next … I had a Latitude 10 and it didn’t match my needs so returned it. The next generation of Atoms due to be announced in September and available in Q4 I think is a real game changer. So there should be some good deals on the current systems but for someone looking for a convertible I’d suggest waiting for the new platform. Much faster CPU plus support for more RAM will really help in laptop mode for a convertible.



Looking forward to seeing what those do. Suspect it will be at least this time next year before a stable 'revolutionary' tablet is out using them. Meanwhile most needs are met within current generation and like netbooks, good quality machines still sell for reasonable second-user kind of money if you buy them at the cheapest possible prices.

There's always a better generation to come, but for right now I'm not a 'lite' user and these machines are great for me.

SampleX

Looking forward to seeing what those do. Suspect it will be at least this … Looking forward to seeing what those do. Suspect it will be at least this time next year before a stable 'revolutionary' tablet is out using them.


With Intel pushing Haswell into lower power envelopes we might seem some fanless Haswell tablets as well. I’m more interested in Atom and we might even see 14nm Atoms out in the timeframe you gave which will help.

SampleX

There's always a better generation to come.


These days the improvements are often fairly incremental but this appears to be the largest generational improvement since the release of the Core 2 Duo (C2D) in 2006. It appears to be an even bigger jump than going from the Pentium 4 to a C2D as not only is it a radically improved architecture but is also a move from 32 to 22nm. The C2D in comparison was released on the same 65nm node as the P4.
Intel have revealed detailed benchmarks showing a gain of 2 to 2.5X performance at the same power level depending on whether using single or multi core loads.
That’s why it seems to be a game changer as for the first time you get a CPU in a fanless tablet with the performance of an entry level laptop.
Maybe not such a big deal for straight tablet designs but for convertibles and cheap ones at that this is like 3 years of gains in one fell swoop.

SampleX

but for right now I'm not a 'lite' user and these machines are great for … but for right now I'm not a 'lite' user and these machines are great for me.


I was thinking more in terms of using the current platform as a convertible which is why it fails miserably for me. The 2GB RAM limit alone kills it stone dead for me. Tablet use is another thing of course.
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