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Samsung E65 e-reader £99.99 @PC World
Samsung E65 e-reader £99.99 @PC World

Samsung E65 e-reader £99.99 @PC World

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This impressive device seems to do everything the Kindle does and more, but also supports the epub format (which the Kindle does not) which means you can borrow ebooks from the local library.

The device comes with an inbuilt store supplied by WH Smith and has over 1 million books already for download.

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so it has a touch screen, but WHSmith support sounds dodgy.. any serious reviews of this? this is cheaper than a kindle so i'd consider it, if its at least as good as a reader.

here's one review
techradar.com/new…050
edit: sorry thats wrong model. similar though.
any reviews of E65 anywhere??


Edited by: "Smiff" 11th Dec 2010

Original Poster

Don't be confused the e60 (which the above review links to) is not the same device. The E65 is exclusive to the dixons group in the uk and its new on the market only out a few weeks.

Wish I didn't have a Sony Reader now!

The Amazon Kindle may be selling like warmed-through baked goods, but … The Amazon Kindle may be selling like warmed-through baked goods, but there are plenty of other eReaders vying for your literary dollar – like the Samsung E65, which has just hit the market in the UK. It boasts a 6-inch 600 x 800 eInk screen, full QWERTY keyboard, Wi-Fi and a digital stylus for making notes.It supports ePub, pdf, txt and Word documents. Other specs on the Samsung E65 include 2GB of built-in storage, expandable via a microSD card slot, support for both text-to-speech and MP3 playback, and a user accessible battery. There’s a pretty beefy 667MHz processor that apparently shaves seconds off the start-up time, as well as support for Outlook appointments, which can be synced over from a computer.

Original Poster

I was all set to buy a kindle but when i found out that the ebooks at the library were all epub and the kindle did not support that format i was amazed. After doing some research this was by far the best option with a good price and some extra features over the kindle.

anyone used one? ease of use is vital for the person i'm thinking of buying this for.. I know kindle works properly, have no idea about this
samsung not very experienced in this market.

btw, same price at Dixons
dixons.co.uk/gbu…d=t

nearest thing to a review i can find is this
blogomatic3000.com/201…er/


Edited by: "Smiff" 11th Dec 2010

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which.co.uk/tec…ok/

A very good hands on video from which

Ordered a kindle yesterday -3G one -not due to be dispatched for another 3 days -wondering if this will be better?
The link is no good unless you are signed up to which -and you have to pay for that !
Only wondered if it was as good as a kindle !
Edited by: "catwoman" 11th Dec 2010

i'm still thinking kindle is better because the touch screen seems fairly pointless and adds weight.. not sure how important the epub format on samsung is though.
Edited by: "Smiff" 11th Dec 2010

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Its important to me plus it means that i can shop about for ebooks and get the best price rather than having to be tied to amazon as they use a special file format

Have you seen the difference in the weight? its next to nothing (241g for the kindle 300g for the E65) the Samsung appears to do more for less money.

@Catwoman the link is a free link, i do not subscribe and can view it fine

the Which video is not a review though, only an intro.. although its the best info i've seen.
at £200 this was a non-starter. at £100 its a serious contender, but would prefer some decent user reviews. these kinds of devices are all about usability. the E60 had a "flashing screen" bug (the screen tech was apparently like first gen readers) and i want to know if this is fixed in the E65.

Edited by: "Smiff" 11th Dec 2010

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Im off to get one tomorrow want me to let you know what it is like?

that would be awesome.
of course if you've also got a Kindle that would be even awesomer

Seems like a good price and if you want to borrow epub books from the library it's the obvious choice. I have a kindle and wouldn't swap though - with the 3G version you can download books AND have free basic web access almost anywhere in the world which is amazing if you travel. I've even surfed the web and checked emails (slowly because it was via satellite) aboard a cruise ship. And the cost? Nothing at all. The ship was charging my fellow passengers something like a dollar a minute.

pjk

Seems like a good price and if you want to borrow epub books from the … Seems like a good price and if you want to borrow epub books from the library it's the obvious choice. I have a kindle and wouldn't swap though - with the 3G version you can download books AND have free basic web access almost anywhere in the world which is amazing if you travel. I've even surfed the web and checked emails (slowly because it was via satellite) aboard a cruise ship. And the cost? Nothing at all. The ship was charging my fellow passengers something like a dollar a minute.



Get calibre to convert epubs to mobi format... I loaded 2000+ books to my gf's kindle recently (epud/pdf/txt/etc)... Although not the simplest software to use with this many books - it's simple for a few books... it worked a treat... After a few goes on it, I do miss the touch screen though - but to be honest, it's all abut the reading, isn't it?... What hasn't been mentioned is the contrast - the kindle 3 is supposed to have great contrast ratios.

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Problem is you can't convert DRM protected files, i looked at this so converting library files is out of the question.

@smiff

I don't have a Kindle and this is a gift for my dad for Xmas, i looked at the Kindle but he goes through so many books sometimes 5 a week (yeah i know) they all come from the library so this seemed like a good option and i can also download books from other places that are already in the epub format without the need to convert them.

It just seems to offer a lot more freedom without having to use Amazon or convert files.

I also am onto a winner as he trusts Samsung, fridge/freezer, TV, Blu Ray, Sound System, MP3 player are all Samsung and he can work them and loves them all.

I know it is a slight risk but i am going to have a dam good play with the E65 in the store tomorrow before they get my cash.

that is a fair point.. the kindle should cost about £20 as they make the money on the books. whereas samsung are trying to make money on the hardware (and obviously having trouble).

i havent looked at iRiver and others either.
Edited by: "Smiff" 11th Dec 2010

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Amazon are a very clever business that is why they have restricted the file format. Much in the same way that Apple heavily restrict what their devices can playback i do like my freedom.

Thanks -have had a look at the video now.
Would love to hear the verdict from The mole tomorrow -my kindle isn''t being dispatched until the 14 th supposedly .
I am still waiting for dvds and books from Amazon that were posted last week !

Will look at this thread tomorrow and see what thoughts are for this -thanks again
Edited by: "catwoman" 12th Dec 2010

Would be very interested to know how well this can render and re-flow PDF files. I'd order one from PCW but I'm not sure how willingly they'd accept returns if I didn't like the item. They insist on an un-opened box, don't they?

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Unopened box surely can't be the policy as the woman in the store when getting mine today opened the box to show me the unit, dunno why, as i had spent 15 minutes playing with the one on display.

Some impressions then

The device is very easy to navigate round, with great buttons that respond extremely well on the bottom and the side of the unit. The unit has direction arrows to navigate and an entre key but you can also just touch what you want with the stylus. I tried tapping the screen with my finger to no avail it does need the stylus.

The device feels no heavier to me than my mates kindle and the reading experience is identical on both, due to the eink tech.

The Samsung lacks a web browser but does support more reading functionality than the Kindle with epub and ADE file formats as well as those supported by the Kindle (but not the amazon format though).

The page turns took about 1 second and the device is extremely clear to read, i did have trouble locating a larger text setting though i did find a quick zoom option that did the trick just fine.

All in all for some people this will be a better choice than the Kindle and for some it will not.

If you plan to use the Kindles web browser or 3G then that is your only choice, however should you care more about the book reading functionality i would suggest the E65 as a great alternative.

This is based on the 15 mins i spent playing with the device in the store its now wrapped up for my dad for xmas, but maybe able to answer some questions based on my 15 mins if you have anything you need to know.

PC World also had 2 Sony units that were quite frankly awful. The sales assistant in PC World also informed me they sold 0 of the E65 at the £199 pricepoint in their store and have since dropping to 99.99 sold quite a few (as she put it because they are so similar to the kindles but cheaper and available now)


Any idea if the outlook sync does emails as well or is it just appointments?

Looks promising

Martin

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Not sure mate sorry

Seems a great shame to have wifi but not a rudimentary browser or email client. And I wonder if another pointy thing can be used to operate the screen if the supplied stylus is lost? But, for only £100, it seems to be a bargain!

What about downloading books ?
Is this a 3g or wi fi and does the 3g make such a big difference.
I have a very poor and slow internet connection here just because of where the exchange is and having checked all internet providers -they all give about the same .
Only really looking at one for reading and downloading books and i buy most books from Amazon.
I have no idea what the epub is either.
Thanks
Edited by: "catwoman" 12th Dec 2010

Original Poster

Downloading books can be done on the device through the inbuilt wh smiths store or online and dropped onto the device. It is a wifi only device.

If you only download from Amazon get a kindle as all amazon downloads are in the kindle format. Other places have cheaper or free downloads in the epub format, epub stands for epublishing and it is the type of file, it is the industry standard file format but Amazon and the kindle do not support it as too much free content is available for them to make money from the kindle.

Thanks for that -never heard of epub before ,maybe i should look on there before making a decision .
Would wi fi be okay with having a lousy internet connection here -or would i be better with 3G?
Edited by: "catwoman" 12th Dec 2010

Do enough libraries really do ebooks to make it worth the difference? I've seen a Kindle and this and the screen on the Kindle is far superior. I

Oooo. V tempted. e-books / PDFs very easy to get hold of and I'm sure someone will soon figure out how to put a browser on this. Not bothered about 3g at all. Could be my dads pressie sorted here.. only downside is I cant have the books afters he read them then (unless i get one too..)

I too ordered a Kindle 3g yesterday, but think I’ll stick with it. I don’t intend to buy many, if any, books from Amazon, use Calibre to convert books from other sources. What swung it for me was the possibility to check email while travelling, for free. Also, the Kindle has a battery life of up to one month. Couldn’t see what the battery life on the E65 is.

For me the choice was between the Kindle 3g or a 7” tablet.

Good deal for this E65 though if a touch screen is more important than the web browser.

The Mole

Downloading books can be done on the device through the inbuilt wh smiths … Downloading books can be done on the device through the inbuilt wh smiths store or online and dropped onto the device. It is a wifi only device.If you only download from Amazon get a kindle as all amazon downloads are in the kindle format. Other places have cheaper or free downloads in the epub format, epub stands for epublishing and it is the type of file, it is the industry standard file format but Amazon and the kindle do not support it as too much free content is available for them to make money from the kindle.



Thanks to mole for taking the trouble to document his initial impressions of the samsung.

The ebook market is in a right mess at the moment IMHO. Expecting punters to pay almost the price of a paperback for an ebook version that costs virtually nothing to distribute (other than a license fee) is a right royal rip off. I'm not prepared to pay it, so being locked into a Kindle is not for me. After being messed about with the recent hmv offer (that never was) for Sony 300/600's, this samsung seems just the job at the right price. Heat added.

Cannot find any information on the touchscreen for this other than it's 8 level greyscale screen. If it utilises the same screen as the first gen Sony PRS-600 then the glare on it will be horrendous making it practically unreadable in normal daylight.

Slightly off but it may be relevant to some buying I just wondered if anyone has got ebooks from the library? How does it work? Do you have to wait until someone else has read it. Are there new titles etc. Must be lots of restrictions otherwise we would all use it.

As previously mentioned, don't worry about Kindle and mobi, calibre will convert just about any file, so not really an issue.
Concernig drm, there are ways around it, but obviously you'd be breaching copywright, just google and see.

Thought I should just step in and defend the Sony readers. I know the 300/600 had problems with the screen but I have a PRS350 and it is very good and well built. I had to decide between the Sony and Kindle, went for the Sony because the touch screen makes it smaller which was importent to me.
They both use the same screen so that is not an issue. Please don`t be put off the Sony by some of the previous comments, I love mine.
Edited by: "Cookieboy" 13th Dec 2010

Cookieboy

Thought I should just step in and defend the Sony readers I know the … Thought I should just step in and defend the Sony readers I know the 300/600 had problems with the screen but I have a PRS350 and it is very good and well built. I had to decide between the Sony and Kindle, went for the Sony because the touch screen makes it smaller which was importent to me.They both use the same screen so that is not an issue. Please don`t be put of the Sony by some of the previous comments, I love mine.



In relation to my comment, I referred to the PRS-600, I did happen to state that it was the first gen Sony that had the screen glare issue, as there is no reports on what touchscreen this has unless it is comparable to the PRS-350 or PRS-650 then even besides the price it is not going to be great.

Personally although very pricey, I think if you don't want a web browser on your e-book the PRS-650 is one of the best e-readers currently on the market. If this matches the same screen (doubtful) then bang for buck this is one fantastic reader, however battery life at 20 hours is not great.

First look video here

Model is SNE-65 in mainland europe.

Banned

anybody know any cheaper equivalents?

marvelle

anybody know any cheaper equivalents?



You are kidding surely? A full Touchscreen E-reader for less than £99.

Microsoft have tested a lot of ebook readers lately and Kindle won it. The only con of Kindle was inability to read epub format but you can walk around it easily. Just use any free ebook software that you can find online (I prefer Calibre) and you can convert most formats to Kindle mobi so I'd say that for a tenner more I's rather buy Kindle than that.

catwoman

Thanks for that -never heard of epub before ,maybe i should look on there … Thanks for that -never heard of epub before ,maybe i should look on there before making a decision .Would wi fi be okay with having a lousy internet connection here -or would i be better with 3G?



Book sizes are very small so unless you plan on using the 3G when out and about wifi is fine. Note, the Amazon web browser works abroad so you can browse over 3G for free as well as buy books. Good for checking email, facebook or any non flash stuff.

If you buy Amazon books, which are usually pretty well priced, then they are stored on Amazon's servers and you can download to any device you own that is registered to your Amazon account so you can read a book on the reader, supported phone (Android, iPhone) or PC/Mac. The nice thing is it always syncs to your last page, whatever the device.

john19

Microsoft have tested a lot of ebook readers lately and Kindle won it. … Microsoft have tested a lot of ebook readers lately and Kindle won it. The only con of Kindle was inability to read epub format but you can walk around it easily. Just use any free ebook software that you can find online (I prefer Calibre) and you can convert most formats to Kindle mobi so I'd say that for a tenner more I's rather buy Kindle than that.



For a tenner more I would rather buy a Nook then a Kindle, and in fact when in America I am going to.
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