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Samsung The Frame (2019) QLED Art Mode TV with No-Gap Wall Mount, 65" £1,199 at John Lewis & Partners
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Samsung The Frame (2019) QLED Art Mode TV with No-Gap Wall Mount, 65" £1,199 at John Lewis & Partners

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Posted 29th Dec 2019Edited by:"mario2001"

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This is usually £1499 with the extra bazel deal. This one comes with free bezel offer worth £229 and also a possible cash back redemption £250 however John lewis doesn't have any soundbar in stock online so i couldn't use the the £250 cash back redemption offer, also didn't want to pay extra upfront. Hope someone will find it useful. It doesn't have great reviews but if anyone wants to use it in art mode then its a great addition to the living room.
worth mentioning this comes with 5 year John Lewis Guarantee
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mario200129/12/2019 12:18

wow i didn't realise samsung tvs are so poor in quality. now i'm in two …wow i didn't realise samsung tvs are so poor in quality. now i'm in two minds, 5 years guarantee too doesn't sound enough


Don't let an OLED fanboy worry you, Mario. Samsung TVs aren't poor quality, as reviews will confirm. Some people just can't accept that OLED isn't for everyone, so they troll QLED threads like this one with condescending unfounded comments.
patrick98529/12/2019 12:29

LED and QLED are the same technology. OLED is different.I’m an OLED owner a …LED and QLED are the same technology. OLED is different.I’m an OLED owner and personally if I could go back in time I would look at the QLED options.This one comes with a 5 yr warranty so I would go for it if you are happy with the picture quality seen in the shop floor.It might not match OLED for picture quality but will give you less hassle down the line.


If you get a TV these days to last 5 years you are in the minority.
John Lewis from my experience though are fantastic. Over the past 10 years I’ve had 4 TV’s replaced by them due to panel faults. Each time they have been BER - beyond Economic repair, so JL offer an equivalent replacement. I’ve always declined that, taken the cash value and added a bit more to qualify for a new 5 year warranty. If you take the offered equivalent TV, you only keep the remaining warranty left from your original purchase.
So you have total peace of mind with your purchase......go ahead if the Frame is your preferred choice. The Samsung’s are great.....just not the best anymore. It does change every year though.
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Martin Dawes had it for £1099 with code on Friday but they changed it now.
Edited by: "AJ92" 29th Dec 2019
AJ9229/12/2019 11:37

Martin Dawes had it for £1099 with code on Friday but they changed it now.


It is now same price as John Lewis but with only 1 year guarantee and no bezel option. also £250 cash back redemption if you are able to use it.
Why anyone is still buying into QLED from Samsung, I have no idea?
Despite providing Apple with OLED screens for their iPhones, Samsung has failed to invest in its large screen OLED production and is now trailing in the wake of LG, Sony and Panasonic’s OLED offerings. I used to love the whole Samsung experience (OS system, built in Apple TV etc...), but the picture just cannot compete....for the same price if not more than an OLED panel. How do Samsung justify charging more for old tech?
Try to check out both side by side in-store and see the better black levels and viewing angles. You only need to tap the Samsung screen to see the limitations of the LED panel.
Note: the £250 cashback can also be used against a 2nd Samsung TV.
LazyDonkey29/12/2019 11:51

Why anyone is still buying into QLED from Samsung, I have no idea?Despite …Why anyone is still buying into QLED from Samsung, I have no idea?Despite providing Apple with OLED screens for their iPhones, Samsung has failed to invest in its large screen OLED production and is now trailing in the wake of LG, Sony and Panasonic’s OLED offerings. I used to love the whole Samsung experience (OS system, built in Apple TV etc...), but the picture just cannot compete....for the same price if not more than an OLED panel. How do Samsung justify charging more for old tech?Try to check out both side by side in-store and see the better black levels and viewing angles. You only need to tap the Samsung screen to see the limitations of the LED panel.Note: the £250 cashback can also be used against a 2nd Samsung TV.



Samsung provide Apple with AMOLED displays, not OLED displays. I'm guessing Samsung isn't currently happy with OLED displays for the home, and I read somewhere they did try with a full RGB OLED display but the idea was quickly binned.
They are putting a lot of money in LCD tech because of this. QLED (and QD). Increased viewing angles, more FALD zones, etc etc. They are still in the market because of burn-in, hence the "10 year burn-in warranty" they aren't blind to their competition. Samsung will eventually bring out OLED TV's, (or AMOLED), or they might just jump straight over to Mini-LED and Micro-LED.
Edited by: "rev6" 29th Dec 2019
65 inch OLED starts from £1700 and this has a unique selling point that it looks like a frame. It’s worth it for £500 less
LazyDonkey29/12/2019 11:51

Why anyone is still buying into QLED from Samsung, I have no idea?Despite …Why anyone is still buying into QLED from Samsung, I have no idea?Despite providing Apple with OLED screens for their iPhones, Samsung has failed to invest in its large screen OLED production and is now trailing in the wake of LG, Sony and Panasonic’s OLED offerings. I used to love the whole Samsung experience (OS system, built in Apple TV etc...), but the picture just cannot compete....for the same price if not more than an OLED panel. How do Samsung justify charging more for old tech?Try to check out both side by side in-store and see the better black levels and viewing angles. You only need to tap the Samsung screen to see the limitations of the LED panel.Note: the £250 cashback can also be used against a 2nd Samsung TV.

suarez77729/12/2019 11:56

65 inch OLED starts from £1700 and this has a unique selling point that it …65 inch OLED starts from £1700 and this has a unique selling point that it looks like a frame. It’s worth it for £500 less


Why would you want a TV to look like a picture frame? It doesn’t anyway.
It’s all about the picture quality of a TV and this is average at best. Why spend
£1k on a gimmick (picture frame) - do you look at the picture more than the TV...no.
The 10 year screen burn guarantee is also a joke, as the panel will fail long before that. I’m on my 2nd Samsung in 5 years and the latest has now failed again with vertical banding.
LazyDonkey29/12/2019 12:14

Why would you want a TV to look like a picture frame? It doesn’t a …Why would you want a TV to look like a picture frame? It doesn’t anyway.It’s all about the picture quality of a TV and this is average at best. Why spend £1k on a gimmick (picture frame) - do you look at the picture more than the TV...no.The 10 year screen burn guarantee is also a joke, as the panel will fail long before that. I’m on my 2nd Samsung in 5 years and the latest has now failed again with vertical banding.


wow i didn't realise samsung tvs are so poor in quality. now i'm in two minds, 5 years guarantee too doesn't sound enough
LazyDonkey29/12/2019 12:14

Why would you want a TV to look like a picture frame? It doesn’t a …Why would you want a TV to look like a picture frame? It doesn’t anyway.It’s all about the picture quality of a TV and this is average at best. Why spend £1k on a gimmick (picture frame) - do you look at the picture more than the TV...no.The 10 year screen burn guarantee is also a joke, as the panel will fail long before that. I’m on my 2nd Samsung in 5 years and the latest has now failed again with vertical banding.


It’s not a joke, it’s actually very clever. The average joe does not know the differences between OLED and LED backlit TVs. On the shop floor, the picture quality of OLED will win a buyer over from LED. The next thing the buyer will look at is cost and warranty after that. While for cost both technologies can be obtained at similar levels, no OLED TV will offer burn in warranty as they know that it is very likely to happen. Samsung knows that burn is doesn’t happen on LED backlit TVs therefore play their card right in that regard
patrick98529/12/2019 12:21

It’s not a joke, it’s actually very clever. The average joe does not know t …It’s not a joke, it’s actually very clever. The average joe does not know the differences between OLED and LED backlit TVs. On the shop floor, the picture quality of OLED will win a buyer over from LED. The next thing the buyer will look at is cost and warranty after that. While for cost both technologies can be obtained at similar levels, no OLED TV will offer burn in warranty as they know that it is very likely to happen. Samsung knows that burn is doesn’t happen on LED backlit TVs therefore play their card right in that regard


Thanks Patrick, should i be worried with this purchase? i've no understanding of LED, OLED or QLED. i was only interested in this tv because of the art mode and its going to be in our living/ dining room
Edited by: "mario2001" 29th Dec 2019
mario200129/12/2019 12:25

Thanks Patrick, should i be worried with this purchase? i've no …Thanks Patrick, should i be worried with this purchase? i've no understanding of LED, OLED or QLED. i was only interested in this tv because of the art mode and its going to be in our living/ dining room


LED and QLED are the same technology. OLED is different.

I’m an OLED owner and personally if I could go back in time I would look at the QLED options.

This one comes with a 5 yr warranty so I would go for it if you are happy with the picture quality seen in the shop floor.

It might not match OLED for picture quality but will give you less hassle down the line.
LazyDonkey29/12/2019 11:51

Why anyone is still buying into QLED from Samsung, I have no idea?


Because people are free to choose what best suits their planned TV use and not everyone is convinced by the constant tedious evangelising of OLED acolytes.

Pretty straightforward really.
mario200129/12/2019 12:18

wow i didn't realise samsung tvs are so poor in quality. now i'm in two …wow i didn't realise samsung tvs are so poor in quality. now i'm in two minds, 5 years guarantee too doesn't sound enough


Don't let an OLED fanboy worry you, Mario. Samsung TVs aren't poor quality, as reviews will confirm. Some people just can't accept that OLED isn't for everyone, so they troll QLED threads like this one with condescending unfounded comments.
patrick98529/12/2019 12:29

LED and QLED are the same technology. OLED is different.I’m an OLED owner a …LED and QLED are the same technology. OLED is different.I’m an OLED owner and personally if I could go back in time I would look at the QLED options.This one comes with a 5 yr warranty so I would go for it if you are happy with the picture quality seen in the shop floor.It might not match OLED for picture quality but will give you less hassle down the line.


If you get a TV these days to last 5 years you are in the minority.
John Lewis from my experience though are fantastic. Over the past 10 years I’ve had 4 TV’s replaced by them due to panel faults. Each time they have been BER - beyond Economic repair, so JL offer an equivalent replacement. I’ve always declined that, taken the cash value and added a bit more to qualify for a new 5 year warranty. If you take the offered equivalent TV, you only keep the remaining warranty left from your original purchase.
So you have total peace of mind with your purchase......go ahead if the Frame is your preferred choice. The Samsung’s are great.....just not the best anymore. It does change every year though.
thekitkatshuffler29/12/2019 12:39

Don't let an OLED fanboy worry you, Mario. Samsung TVs aren't poor …Don't let an OLED fanboy worry you, Mario. Samsung TVs aren't poor quality, as reviews will confirm. Some people just can't accept that OLED isn't for everyone, so they troll QLED threads like this one with condescending unfounded comments.


Incorrect....I’m not a fanboy, as I own two Samsung QLED’s, one of which has just failed AGAIN, so I’m in the market and despite loving my past experience of the Samsung’s....they currently just do not compete anymore. Which I’m gutted about
Edited by: "LazyDonkey" 29th Dec 2019
thekitkatshuffler29/12/2019 12:39

Don't let an OLED fanboy worry you, Mario. Samsung TVs aren't poor …Don't let an OLED fanboy worry you, Mario. Samsung TVs aren't poor quality, as reviews will confirm. Some people just can't accept that OLED isn't for everyone, so they troll QLED threads like this one with condescending unfounded comments.


QLED is a clever marketing scheme by Samsung. They will get more cash in the bank, which is what business is all about, by fooling regular Joe’s into believing QLED is Samsung’s version of OLED, which it is not. It is the equivalent of top end LED. However, Samsung TV’s have less input lag than any other so a QLED Samsung may be better than an OLED for people that game on consoles using the telly.
mario200129/12/2019 12:25

Thanks Patrick, should i be worried with this purchase? i've no …Thanks Patrick, should i be worried with this purchase? i've no understanding of LED, OLED or QLED. i was only interested in this tv because of the art mode and its going to be in our living/ dining room


I had an LG OLED and got rid as started getting burn in so would stay away till the issue has been sorted.

Bottom line is it's personal choice if you like the frame then you like it. What's for certain is that they both have great image either way and most folk wouldn't be bothered/notice about difference unless OLED & QLED are side by side to compare.
Edited by: "AJ92" 29th Dec 2019
damn i have been waiting for a deal on the 55”
This would of been ideal if was fald and not edge lit. The fact it comes with the no gap mount is bonus. I don't see it being any better than my ks7000 tho so I'll wait... Still waiting.....for Samsung to get the q90 back in stock.
LazyDonkey29/12/2019 11:51

Why anyone is still buying into QLED from Samsung, I have no idea?Despite …Why anyone is still buying into QLED from Samsung, I have no idea?Despite providing Apple with OLED screens for their iPhones, Samsung has failed to invest in its large screen OLED production and is now trailing in the wake of LG, Sony and Panasonic’s OLED offerings. I used to love the whole Samsung experience (OS system, built in Apple TV etc...), but the picture just cannot compete....for the same price if not more than an OLED panel. How do Samsung justify charging more for old tech?Try to check out both side by side in-store and see the better black levels and viewing angles. You only need to tap the Samsung screen to see the limitations of the LED panel.Note: the £250 cashback can also be used against a 2nd Samsung TV.


So what to buy? "

I'm looking at a 70-80inch or a projector.
Rooms eternally dark and screen easy to fit

Adbise me oh wise one.
DuckDuck8629/12/2019 19:20

So what to buy? "I'm looking at a 70-80inch or a projector. Rooms …So what to buy? "I'm looking at a 70-80inch or a projector. Rooms eternally dark and screen easy to fit Adbise me oh wise one.


We have a projector in the basement, it’s 90 inch so fairly big. After placing order for this tv I started measuring and was surprised that the difference between this and projector isn’t a lot. You need to keep in mind that for a similar resolution projector you could be spending a lot more than even a 75 inch tv. This tv isn’t really a comparison between projector and tv. This has a different use in my view. I’m kind of buying an expensive painting for the dining room. Btw I saw a 75 inch tv for under £1k in John Lewis (LG), 3 years back when I built cinema room these TVs were unaffordable otherwise I would have 100% chosen tv over projector.
Edited by: "mario2001" 29th Dec 2019
LazyDonkey29/12/2019 11:51

Why anyone is still buying into QLED from Samsung, I have no idea?Despite …Why anyone is still buying into QLED from Samsung, I have no idea?Despite providing Apple with OLED screens for their iPhones, Samsung has failed to invest in its large screen OLED production and is now trailing in the wake of LG, Sony and Panasonic’s OLED offerings. I used to love the whole Samsung experience (OS system, built in Apple TV etc...), but the picture just cannot compete....for the same price if not more than an OLED panel. How do Samsung justify charging more for old tech?Try to check out both side by side in-store and see the better black levels and viewing angles. You only need to tap the Samsung screen to see the limitations of the LED panel.Note: the £250 cashback can also be used against a 2nd Samsung TV.


Samsung don't manufacture OLED TV's as they are aware of the inherent problems with the technology, that's also why I have QLED TV's......OLEDS lack of brightness, deteriorating luminosity and potential screen burn is a big NO NO..........QLED Rules...
hotukdealz30/12/2019 10:11

Samsung don't manufacture OLED TV's as they are aware of the inherent …Samsung don't manufacture OLED TV's as they are aware of the inherent problems with the technology, that's also why I have QLED TV's......OLEDS lack of brightness, deteriorating luminosity and potential screen burn is a big NO NO..........QLED Rules...


Until the panel fails and you get backlight banding - I’ve had two QLED’s fail in 2 years.
The point is that you buy a TV for the best picture that you can afford, not whether you believe it’s going to fail down the line. That’s what the 5 year guarantee is for - peace of mind. If you are not investing in OLED because it might fail, you wouldn’t buy any TV on that principal.
mario200129/12/2019 20:50

We have a projector in the basement, it’s 90 inch so fairly big. After p …We have a projector in the basement, it’s 90 inch so fairly big. After placing order for this tv I started measuring and was surprised that the difference between this and projector isn’t a lot. You need to keep in mind that for a similar resolution projector you could be spending a lot more than even a 75 inch tv. This tv isn’t really a comparison between projector and tv. This has a different use in my view. I’m kind of buying an expensive painting for the dining room. Btw I saw a 75 inch tv for under £1k in John Lewis (LG), 3 years back when I built cinema room these TVs were unaffordable otherwise I would have 100% chosen tv over projector.


Seen a lot under 1k, and projectors are only 400-500 too.

I worry about sound for projector, they seem to neglect an obvious optical output meaning I'd have to split the chrome cast and other HD I sources.
DuckDuck8630/12/2019 12:52

Seen a lot under 1k, and projectors are only 400-500 too.I worry about …Seen a lot under 1k, and projectors are only 400-500 too.I worry about sound for projector, they seem to neglect an obvious optical output meaning I'd have to split the chrome cast and other HD I sources.


Maybe it all depends on the budget I meant a similar resolution projector ie 4K will be expensive. Also, have you considered buying some sound bar or av receiver. Centres direct from Sony have some really good and cheap hdmi soundbars with wireless sub woofer. You wouldn’t need to worry about splitting for hdmi, it’ll be more cinema like experience.
mario200130/12/2019 14:17

Maybe it all depends on the budget I meant a similar resolution projector …Maybe it all depends on the budget I meant a similar resolution projector ie 4K will be expensive. Also, have you considered buying some sound bar or av receiver. Centres direct from Sony have some really good and cheap hdmi soundbars with wireless sub woofer. You wouldn’t need to worry about splitting for hdmi, it’ll be more cinema like experience.


I have a great soundbar, though its olsld now.

If using a projector my chrome cast would go straight into a projector so I'd need to extract digital audio from it.
I don't want to plug the chrome cast into my soundbar, I'd also be limited to one hdmi too.


Anyway just hit buy on the LG 75" got 779
DuckDuck8630/12/2019 14:51

I have a great soundbar, though its olsld now. If using a projector my …I have a great soundbar, though its olsld now. If using a projector my chrome cast would go straight into a projector so I'd need to extract digital audio from it. I don't want to plug the chrome cast into my soundbar, I'd also be limited to one hdmi too.Anyway just hit buy on the LG 75" got 779


Good choice
Just bought 65’ with white frame:)
AJ9229/12/2019 11:37

Martin Dawes had it for £1099 with code on Friday but they changed it now.


It must have been a brief, short moment
lukaszorlas01/01/2020 02:02

It must have been a brief, short moment


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Currently says call for best price so i guess they will offer the £100 off over the phone so people don't pm them especially with JL
Edited by: "AJ92" 1st Jan
AJ9201/01/2020 02:07

[Image] Currently says call for best price so i guess they will offer the …[Image] Currently says call for best price so i guess they will offer the £100 off over the phone so people don't pm them especially with JL


Wow, so cheap. But I think it’s worth paying £100 more for 5 years warranty
lukaszorlas01/01/2020 11:13

Wow, so cheap. But I think it’s worth paying £100 more for 5 years warranty


Its strange because the 55" Frame has 5yr warranty as well as other QLED tvs
Edited by: "AJ92" 1st Jan
AJ9201/01/2020 11:19

Its strange because the 55" Frame has 5yr warranty as well as other QLED …Its strange because the 55" Frame has 5yr warranty as well as other QLED tvs


Well spotted. Has anyone ever heard of situation when JL replaced/fixed a TV under this 5 year warranty?

I didn’t read T&C but it’s too good to be truth. For example dead pixels, usually you can get free new tv if more than 3 pixels are dead
Deal is over. Price is back to £1499
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