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Worth checking in your local currys, in store only, reduced price to over £100 off because it's old stock apparently, man checked while I was stood at the side of him and I could see there was only this 1 in my store pontefract so I grabbed it lol ideal Christmas present for my 12 year old

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I ‘think’ the 6 in the name refers to 2016 model.
MatrixReality18/09/2019 13:22

I ‘think’ the 6 in the name refers to 2016 model.


I think you're right I got the 2016 version no updates beyond Oreo or security updates since Jan 2019. This is a poor deal if model no is t580.
It is the 2016 model (SM-T580) - and CEX were offering to pay £120 for a secondhand one, as of last week.

Absolute bargain for a decently specc'd tablet (for Netflix & day-to-day admin stuff).
My wife's got the LTE version,it's a great tablet.
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Skwoddie18/09/2019 13:46

It is the 2016 model (SM-T580) - and CEX were offering to pay £120 for a …It is the 2016 model (SM-T580) - and CEX were offering to pay £120 for a secondhand one, as of last week.Absolute bargain for a decently specc'd tablet (for Netflix & day-to-day admin stuff).


My son only watches YouTube on it and does his homework so for me it's a bargain, enough to pay
nodder18/09/2019 15:09

My son only watches YouTube on it and does his homework so for me it's a …My son only watches YouTube on it and does his homework so for me it's a bargain, enough to pay


No security and support though so probably not great for a child. Worth exploring if there is a custom ROM option that can at least keep it up to date and secure.
I have one but really really old tech tbh. Wiuldnt buy another one
samsung is very bad at supporting products from my experience with mobile phones. they stop supporting them after 2 years so sounds like they do the same on tablets. i will not buy a samsung tablet and i may have to look at other mobile phones and move away from samsung as the battery life on their phones are very poor.
If you ask an employee to search 228986 they can tell you where it's in stock in your area. It's on their system as clearance at this price so not much stock.
smckirdy18/09/2019 15:34

No security and support though so probably not great for a child. Worth …No security and support though so probably not great for a child. Worth exploring if there is a custom ROM option that can at least keep it up to date and secure.


Install an antivirus and you're good. Don't need a newer tablet... lol
I've been with Samsung for many years, me and all my children have phones and Tablets, never had an issue with any of them, I wouldn't choose any other manufacturer
This is not the 2019 version
Cracking hot.
I bought one from curry's last year for £135, so heat for this price. Mine was for my son to start drawing on, only to find no pen included and nothing compatible. Good to know CEX gives a decent price.
Edited by: "davemhaynes" 19th Sep
RaLuci18/09/2019 18:01

Install an antivirus and you're good. Don't need a newer tablet... lol


Yeah that's not remotely right. Don't give tech advice if you aren't competent in IT security.

Using an antivirus on an insecure OS is the very definition of the old addage about building houses on the sand. No antivirus can patch an OS level vulnerability, and certainly no Android based system. An external firewall can help, but even it can't protect against exploits just mitigate.

It's nothing to do with the hardware, it's the operating system hence why I said to look for Custom ROMs as they while potentially risky in both hardware and security can often allow moving to a newer OS version that's still under support.
Skwoddie18/09/2019 13:46

It is the 2016 model (SM-T580) - and CEX were offering to pay £120 for a …It is the 2016 model (SM-T580) - and CEX were offering to pay £120 for a secondhand one, as of last week.Absolute bargain for a decently specc'd tablet (for Netflix & day-to-day admin stuff).


But I paid £150 for 2019 version with 4G how is this a deal?
madmaxpayne19/09/2019 09:19

But I paid £150 for 2019 version with 4G how is this a deal?


Because you can make £15 selling it straight to CEX...?

I dunno - I'm not that skint.
smckirdy19/09/2019 01:17

Yeah that's not remotely right. Don't give tech advice if you aren't …Yeah that's not remotely right. Don't give tech advice if you aren't competent in IT security.Using an antivirus on an insecure OS is the very definition of the old addage about building houses on the sand. No antivirus can patch an OS level vulnerability, and certainly no Android based system. An external firewall can help, but even it can't protect against exploits just mitigate.It's nothing to do with the hardware, it's the operating system hence why I said to look for Custom ROMs as they while potentially risky in both hardware and security can often allow moving to a newer OS version that's still under support.


And whom made you competent to assess others?
For something to be able to get through to your tablet software it has to go through a wifi, lte network or cable right? Hence where the anti virus malware spamware etfc... come in place, no? Thanks oh wise one
RaLuci19/09/2019 14:26

And whom made you competent to assess others?For something to be able to …And whom made you competent to assess others?For something to be able to get through to your tablet software it has to go through a wifi, lte network or cable right? Hence where the anti virus malware spamware etfc... come in place, no? Thanks oh wise one



Several years doing tech work mostly. And you know being alive in 2019 and having to use technology.

And you are wrong again, while many exploits will come via an external network that isn't the only risk as even on closed networks you can have problems with people introducing malware i.e. through side loaded apps. But that's pretty irrelevent as nobody uses a tablet like that in practice.

Anti-virus technology doesn't protect you absolutely and on platforms like Android it doesn't even work particularly well. It also can't protect you from all forms of exploit and is only secure if it's underlying system is secure. The best antivirus in the world on an insecure OS can't offer full protection, and even on a fully secure platform there isn't such a thing as full protection from all threats.

Please don't give people tech advice, and please go get some for yourself.
smckirdy18/09/2019 15:34

No security and support though so probably not great for a child. Worth …No security and support though so probably not great for a child. Worth exploring if there is a custom ROM option that can at least keep it up to date and secure.


I have an older one with no updates for 2 years with no problems, these security updates dont really mean that much at all, I gave my mum my old Samsung S5 many years ago and she still uses it and never had a problem, dont get hung up on security updates, believe me if someone wanted to hack your phone no security update would stop them.
mutley118/09/2019 16:01

samsung is very bad at supporting products from my experience with mobile …samsung is very bad at supporting products from my experience with mobile phones. they stop supporting them after 2 years so sounds like they do the same on tablets. i will not buy a samsung tablet and i may have to look at other mobile phones and move away from samsung as the battery life on their phones are very poor.


My S8 plus still getting updates and have you ever read about someone's phone getting hacked because they didn't have the latest updates ? Never been a problem, if hackers desire to hack a patch wont make a difference to them.
smckirdy19/09/2019 01:17

Yeah that's not remotely right. Don't give tech advice if you aren't …Yeah that's not remotely right. Don't give tech advice if you aren't competent in IT security.Using an antivirus on an insecure OS is the very definition of the old addage about building houses on the sand. No antivirus can patch an OS level vulnerability, and certainly no Android based system. An external firewall can help, but even it can't protect against exploits just mitigate.It's nothing to do with the hardware, it's the operating system hence why I said to look for Custom ROMs as they while potentially risky in both hardware and security can often allow moving to a newer OS version that's still under support.


Hacking phones has never been a big issue and security updates wont really make a difference if someone wants to hack it, you find hackers are one or two steps ahead anyway or they spend an extra hour or so to break in, I remember Apple saying they're new phone cant be hacked and an hour after release a hacked one was posted online, my old tablet has not received an update for years and still works fine.
Edged19/09/2019 23:04

I have an older one with no updates for 2 years with no problems, these …I have an older one with no updates for 2 years with no problems, these security updates dont really mean that much at all, I gave my mum my old Samsung S5 many years ago and she still uses it and never had a problem, dont get hung up on security updates, believe me if someone wanted to hack your phone no security update would stop them.



How would you know? Most exploits are designed to be inconspicuous, not all malware is ransomware.

Security updates go a long way to prevent low effort low risk exploits, and the significantly mitigate the impact of bad actors. Hacking is relatively rare as a specific type of exploit.

But it comes down to if you are going to USE a device for anything more than a totally offline system or just as a dumb phone(and then why would you have a smart phone) then you want it to be secure. You want to be able to use it for the purpose it's intended. If you don't have a secure device you aren't able to use secure applications like internet banking(and similarly you shouldn't use it via a browser on such a platform). If you are giving it to a child you definitely want it secure for a lot of reasons.

It's like seat belts and air bags, most people go through their entire driving life without an accident. But damn sure you want them all the time.
Edged19/09/2019 23:07

My S8 plus still getting updates and have you ever read about someone's …My S8 plus still getting updates and have you ever read about someone's phone getting hacked because they didn't have the latest updates ? Never been a problem, if hackers desire to hack a patch wont make a difference to them.


S8 plus is not very old though! The note 4 that I have stopped having updates 2 years a year ago! No updates means the phone become slow as it can't cope anymore.
Skwoddie19/09/2019 09:51

Because you can make £15 selling it straight to CEX...?I dunno - I'm not …Because you can make £15 selling it straight to CEX...?I dunno - I'm not that skint.


And how much for a 2019 version with 4G? More than £15 I hope
mutley119/09/2019 23:39

S8 plus is not very old though! The note 4 that I have stopped having …S8 plus is not very old though! The note 4 that I have stopped having updates 2 years a year ago! No updates means the phone become slow as it can't cope anymore.


Like I said my tablet hasn't had an update for well over two years and it's still as fast, getting updates dont speed phones up but some updates do slow them down.
smckirdy19/09/2019 23:24

How would you know? Most exploits are designed to be inconspicuous, not …How would you know? Most exploits are designed to be inconspicuous, not all malware is ransomware. Security updates go a long way to prevent low effort low risk exploits, and the significantly mitigate the impact of bad actors. Hacking is relatively rare as a specific type of exploit.But it comes down to if you are going to USE a device for anything more than a totally offline system or just as a dumb phone(and then why would you have a smart phone) then you want it to be secure. You want to be able to use it for the purpose it's intended. If you don't have a secure device you aren't able to use secure applications like internet banking(and similarly you shouldn't use it via a browser on such a platform). If you are giving it to a child you definitely want it secure for a lot of reasons.It's like seat belts and air bags, most people go through their entire driving life without an accident. But damn sure you want them all the time.


What is a secure phone ? No phone is 100% secure, even google found an open patch on iPhones that was open for 18 months, mobiles just dont get hacked anymore and ransome wear will happen to any phone if they want to no matter what your phone has or doesn't, I use my tablet to buy most things online and it's not had an update for over 2 years, a phone getting update is just as easy to take control of and has nothing to do with seat belts.
Edged20/09/2019 06:29

What is a secure phone ? No phone is 100% secure, even google found an …What is a secure phone ? No phone is 100% secure, even google found an open patch on iPhones that was open for 18 months, mobiles just dont get hacked anymore and ransome wear will happen to any phone if they want to no matter what your phone has or doesn't, I use my tablet to buy most things online and it's not had an update for over 2 years, a phone getting update is just as easy to take control of and has nothing to do with seat belts.



No system is, but the only guarantee it will never be secure is it being out of support.

Again hacking is a specific thing, and not common in any environment.

Malware is pretty common on phones and tablets. It is categorically untrue that an updated device is just as easy to take control of, you have no basis for that statement.

Just because you do something foolish and nothing happens doesn't mean its a good idea. You could probably last a fair while walking across the road without looking and not being hit, but it's nothing to do with it being a good idea. Storing and transmitting private data, particularly financial data on an insecure device is just stupid. Mobile devices can be very secure, on more modern and high end devices they even have hardware level protection other devices don't, but it only works if you keep them up to date and act sensibly, most malware on mobile devices has a user component, if the users not competent then issues are way more likely. Which is why in my original reply I stated not to use these devices for kids, they need MORE protection not less as they are more vulnerable to both bad actors and user related malware.

I'm honestly not sure what your argument is. This is all common advice from security professionals and the companies that make the devices and software. It's not even a cost issue as you can buy new low end devices just as good as older second hand devices.
smckirdy20/09/2019 15:24

No system is, but the only guarantee it will never be secure is it being …No system is, but the only guarantee it will never be secure is it being out of support.Again hacking is a specific thing, and not common in any environment. Malware is pretty common on phones and tablets. It is categorically untrue that an updated device is just as easy to take control of, you have no basis for that statement. Just because you do something foolish and nothing happens doesn't mean its a good idea. You could probably last a fair while walking across the road without looking and not being hit, but it's nothing to do with it being a good idea. Storing and transmitting private data, particularly financial data on an insecure device is just stupid. Mobile devices can be very secure, on more modern and high end devices they even have hardware level protection other devices don't, but it only works if you keep them up to date and act sensibly, most malware on mobile devices has a user component, if the users not competent then issues are way more likely. Which is why in my original reply I stated not to use these devices for kids, they need MORE protection not less as they are more vulnerable to both bad actors and user related malware.I'm honestly not sure what your argument is. This is all common advice from security professionals and the companies that make the devices and software. It's not even a cost issue as you can buy new low end devices just as good as older second hand devices.


Doing "tech work" doesn't qualify you to give out advice and expect people to just take it as gospel.
smckirdy20/09/2019 15:24

No system is, but the only guarantee it will never be secure is it being …No system is, but the only guarantee it will never be secure is it being out of support.Again hacking is a specific thing, and not common in any environment. Malware is pretty common on phones and tablets. It is categorically untrue that an updated device is just as easy to take control of, you have no basis for that statement. Just because you do something foolish and nothing happens doesn't mean its a good idea. You could probably last a fair while walking across the road without looking and not being hit, but it's nothing to do with it being a good idea. Storing and transmitting private data, particularly financial data on an insecure device is just stupid. Mobile devices can be very secure, on more modern and high end devices they even have hardware level protection other devices don't, but it only works if you keep them up to date and act sensibly, most malware on mobile devices has a user component, if the users not competent then issues are way more likely. Which is why in my original reply I stated not to use these devices for kids, they need MORE protection not less as they are more vulnerable to both bad actors and user related malware.I'm honestly not sure what your argument is. This is all common advice from security professionals and the companies that make the devices and software. It's not even a cost issue as you can buy new low end devices just as good as older second hand devices.


Look if someone wants to send anything to your phone and they know how to do it no update will stop them that is a fact, security updates only patch up what they really didn't find in the last update and as soon as you get the latest update weeks later they find new patches to update so your phone is never truly more secure with any new update, I watched a few TV programs about how it's an never ending update, so if you dont get that newest update you more than likely wont have the new patches that the next update will need to fix and secure again and again, how many times have they had to rush out new updates because the latest one opened something not secure ? It's all to do with the latest patches not being as secure as they should have been in the first place.
smckirdy20/09/2019 15:24

No system is, but the only guarantee it will never be secure is it being …No system is, but the only guarantee it will never be secure is it being out of support.Again hacking is a specific thing, and not common in any environment. Malware is pretty common on phones and tablets. It is categorically untrue that an updated device is just as easy to take control of, you have no basis for that statement. Just because you do something foolish and nothing happens doesn't mean its a good idea. You could probably last a fair while walking across the road without looking and not being hit, but it's nothing to do with it being a good idea. Storing and transmitting private data, particularly financial data on an insecure device is just stupid. Mobile devices can be very secure, on more modern and high end devices they even have hardware level protection other devices don't, but it only works if you keep them up to date and act sensibly, most malware on mobile devices has a user component, if the users not competent then issues are way more likely. Which is why in my original reply I stated not to use these devices for kids, they need MORE protection not less as they are more vulnerable to both bad actors and user related malware.I'm honestly not sure what your argument is. This is all common advice from security professionals and the companies that make the devices and software. It's not even a cost issue as you can buy new low end devices just as good as older second hand devices.



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How did this discussion get hijacked into this mess about security and updates and hacking? People are willingly giving private info away to Google, Facebook, Amazon, Instagram etc. It's like the hackers don't even have to try to rob you if they think you're worth it. The deal itself seems like a good one for a tablet as a media device. Thanks OP.
CoeK20/09/2019 16:10

Doing "tech work" doesn't qualify you to give out advice and expect people …Doing "tech work" doesn't qualify you to give out advice and expect people to just take it as gospel.


I'm not expecting gospel. You can literally get the same advice for free from multiple sources. I'm not saying anything that isn't verifiable or common tech knowledge.

Also I'm not going to give out personal details on hukd.
Edged20/09/2019 16:40

Look if someone wants to send anything to your phone and they know how to …Look if someone wants to send anything to your phone and they know how to do it no update will stop them that is a fact, security updates only patch up what they really didn't find in the last update and as soon as you get the latest update weeks later they find new patches to update so your phone is never truly more secure with any new update, I watched a few TV programs about how it's an never ending update, so if you dont get that newest update you more than likely wont have the new patches that the next update will need to fix and secure again and again, how many times have they had to rush out new updates because the latest one opened something not secure ? It's all to do with the latest patches not being as secure as they should have been in the first place.


No. Just no. The thing about the updates is that they largely are unknown or marginally known before they are patched. What you see when it's in the press from project zero and the likes is things that have been found and patched before publication. It's why there is a bug bounty for major software packages. You get hot patches usually not because of a new security vulnerability, but because of bugs introduced by the patch, modern software is complicated so it's relatively easy to cause an issue with something that was an unknown or untestable variable I.e. one app popular in one country does something a bit weird and crashes or one type of weird device has an issue with it. On Windows it's way more common to get hot patches due to the variables, but it happens on all non closed systems and even rarely on those because people make mistakes.

But the minute it's patched it's totally public, anyone can see it and it comes with a how to guide to produce malware so anyone not patched is massively more vulnerable. If you are patched you only worry about the unknown unknowns which is just luck if a white or black hat gets it first. If you are unpatched you need to worry about all classes of malware including all the ones that have been classified and fixed.

While if a bad actor really wants into your device it can be hard(not impossible) to stop them. The difference is difficulty, you go from needing state and major non governmental groups needing massive resources to a 16 year old in his bedroom to compromise a device. Or more normally any of thousands of groups that have a reason to want to compromise devices. It also protects you from yourself, it protects you from both online exploits and for mobile the vulnerabilities that are in thousands upon thousands of apps either intentionally or through vulnerabilities in things like ad servers. On an updated device you are only vulnerable to the new and totally user related issues, on an unpatched device you are vulnerable to everything that's been previously patched against and now way easier for bad actors to deploy.

I'm pretty much done with this. Do what you want, anyone that happens to read this can make a sensible choice without your nonsense. But I would recommend you do a bit of reading (and not out of bad newspapers or TV), plenty great and even free resources to learn about IT security out there.
smckirdy21/09/2019 14:38

I'm not expecting gospel. You can literally get the same advice for free …I'm not expecting gospel. You can literally get the same advice for free from multiple sources. I'm not saying anything that isn't verifiable or common tech knowledge.Also I'm not going to give out personal details on hukd.


OK, I wouldn't call a job personal details but whatever you want. There are loads of "tech" people on here but you can see the difference between the real tech professionals and the amateur/hobbyists.

The galaxy tab 10.1 2016 still gets security updates. Just not monthly(which it probably never got) and no longer quarterly. It gets important vulnerabilities patched.
smckirdy21/09/2019 14:58

No. Just no. The thing about the updates is that they largely are unknown …No. Just no. The thing about the updates is that they largely are unknown or marginally known before they are patched. What you see when it's in the press from project zero and the likes is things that have been found and patched before publication. It's why there is a bug bounty for major software packages. You get hot patches usually not because of a new security vulnerability, but because of bugs introduced by the patch, modern software is complicated so it's relatively easy to cause an issue with something that was an unknown or untestable variable I.e. one app popular in one country does something a bit weird and crashes or one type of weird device has an issue with it. On Windows it's way more common to get hot patches due to the variables, but it happens on all non closed systems and even rarely on those because people make mistakes.But the minute it's patched it's totally public, anyone can see it and it comes with a how to guide to produce malware so anyone not patched is massively more vulnerable. If you are patched you only worry about the unknown unknowns which is just luck if a white or black hat gets it first. If you are unpatched you need to worry about all classes of malware including all the ones that have been classified and fixed.While if a bad actor really wants into your device it can be hard(not impossible) to stop them. The difference is difficulty, you go from needing state and major non governmental groups needing massive resources to a 16 year old in his bedroom to compromise a device. Or more normally any of thousands of groups that have a reason to want to compromise devices. It also protects you from yourself, it protects you from both online exploits and for mobile the vulnerabilities that are in thousands upon thousands of apps either intentionally or through vulnerabilities in things like ad servers. On an updated device you are only vulnerable to the new and totally user related issues, on an unpatched device you are vulnerable to everything that's been previously patched against and now way easier for bad actors to deploy.I'm pretty much done with this. Do what you want, anyone that happens to read this can make a sensible choice without your nonsense. But I would recommend you do a bit of reading (and not out of bad newspapers or TV), plenty great and even free resources to learn about IT security out there.


Are you talking about the random teens that manage to break in to the super secure Pentagon, banks and so on, teens can break into anything just like they did apple, if you think it's only massive organisations your wrong, one single person with a PC could cause havoc anyplace in the world, o think you should read more and a watchdog program about updates said 60% of people never update and have had no problems but they did say that that's not to say they wont, to think a group of people will find your phone out of the 100s of millions is like you winning the lottery every day of week for a month.
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