Samsung HMD Odyssey XE800ZAA-HC1 Windows Mixed Reality Headset £454.99 @ Toby deals
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Samsung HMD Odyssey XE800ZAA-HC1 Windows Mixed Reality Headset £454.99 @ Toby deals

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Found 5th FebEdited by:"rd3d2"
A bit of a specialist link I guess but if you already have one of the new Mixed Reality headsets then you will know just how good they are but … if you want the best then this headset is it.

Sadly not available in Europe and so many have already imported through specialist web sites. Now having personally had two successful purchases from this Chinese based web site I am of the opinion that this is probably the easiest (and cheapest) way to get hold of this particular headset.

NB The Samsung has increased resolution and uses an OLED display, unlike ALL the other MR headsets available in the UK (It also has built in headphones which is a lot less faff!!)


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Also perhaps worth noting that the display used in this headset is the exact same that HTC has recently announced will be in their NEXT virtual reality headset.

(Personally, I wouldn't wait)
Edited by: "rd3d2" 5th Feb
You absolute diamond. I could kiss you. Been trying to get a hold of one of these for a decent price since launch! Thought I'd maybe get stung by import fees still but their terms and conditions states that it's all taken care of. £459.99 delivered is a bargain for me! In my excitement I forgot about top cashback though. Doh!
Edited by: "steven5watson" 5th Feb
Ace bit of kit, it suprised me that the recently announced vive pro pretty much matches this exactly spec wise.
You need to add 20% vat and import fees/duty, it's from Hong Kong. Plus if it's faulty you won't get any support from Samsung.
mtc125 m ago

You need to add 20% vat and import fees/duty, it's from Hong Kong. Plus if …You need to add 20% vat and import fees/duty, it's from Hong Kong. Plus if it's faulty you won't get any support from Samsung.


Vat and import duties are covered already.
steven5watson2 h, 14 m ago

Vat and import duties are covered already.


Where does it say that? I can't find it anywhere in their website.

EDIT: found in the terms and conditions. I'm presently surprised! Returns to UK address too for faulty Items.
1.9. Import Tax
By purchasing a product through our site, customers outside Hong Kong authorise Toby Deals to make arrangements of clearance of customs on their behalf for the products they have ordered.
Our prices on our site are final and there won’t be any additional fees to pay when the product arrives.
Edited by: "rossysaurus" 5th Feb
Looks like Darth Vapour
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steven5watson2 h, 56 m ago

Vat and import duties are covered already.



Yes, I had my doubts the first time I ordered but most items are shipped from their warehouse in the UK and there is nothing more to pay. They also accept returns back to a UK address.
Edited by: "rd3d2" 5th Feb
This doesn't work with steam vr ?
garrafk6 m ago

This doesn't work with steam vr ?


Why wouldn't it? All the other mixed reality headsets do.
rossysaurus1 h, 1 m ago

Where does it say that? I can't find it anywhere in their website.EDIT: …Where does it say that? I can't find it anywhere in their website.EDIT: found in the terms and conditions. I'm presently surprised! Returns to UK address too for faulty Items. 1.9. Import TaxBy purchasing a product through our site, customers outside Hong Kong authorise Toby Deals to make arrangements of clearance of customs on their behalf for the products they have ordered. Our prices on our site are final and there won’t be any additional fees to pay when the product arrives.


Yea I actually read the terms and conditions for the first time ever . I was very surprised. I can see me using these again.

P. S. I'm still sitting by my front door waiting for my parcel...
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garrafk51 m ago

This doesn't work with steam vr ?



Yes it does.
Oh I read they only work with vr stuff from Windows store
nah they will work with revive aswell , all the WMR headsets do , Does this come with the controllers aswell or just the HMD?
How does the tracking work on these as they don't have external sensors as far as I'm aware
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garrafk3 m ago

How does the tracking work on these as they don't have external sensors as …How does the tracking work on these as they don't have external sensors as far as I'm aware



They use the same "Mixed reality" sensors (cameras built into the headset itself) that were developed for the HoloLens - they work really well and are a lot less faff than the HTC Vive or Oculus Rift which both require sensors placed around the room
Edited by: "rd3d2" 5th Feb
Bought a rift a month ago and if I had the choice now I still think I would stick with the rift over this. Resolution isn't the only consideration, if you are playing to play a lot of different games everything on the rift just works.

Most VR games will not be tested on this headset or written with the controllers in mind. Speaking of controllers the rift touch controllers are widely regarded as superior in every way. Having used them it will be hard going to anything else.

Setting up tracking on the rift is a faff but once setup it works fine, I have no problems with 360 tracking on the 2 included cameras. Setup on the samsung will be easier but necessarily not better. The headset has to see your hands in order to work which is fine for most games but not all. Shooting at something and turn your head to see what is coming behind you, tracking lost.

Not saying it's a bad headset or deal but should understand the cons rather than just look at the pros of the displays.
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X-Cell13 m ago

Bought a rift a month ago and if I had the choice now I still think I …Bought a rift a month ago and if I had the choice now I still think I would stick with the rift over this. Resolution isn't the only consideration, if you are playing to play a lot of different games everything on the rift just works. Most VR games will not be tested on this headset or written with the controllers in mind. Speaking of controllers the rift touch controllers are widely regarded as superior in every way. Having used them it will be hard going to anything else.Setting up tracking on the rift is a faff but once setup it works fine, I have no problems with 360 tracking on the 2 included cameras. Setup on the samsung will be easier but necessarily not better. The headset has to see your hands in order to work which is fine for most games but not all. Shooting at something and turn your head to see what is coming behind you, tracking lost. Not saying it's a bad headset or deal but should understand the cons rather than just look at the pros of the displays.



They have done a great job with the inside-out tracking - all the criticisms I have seen (Picking an Arrow from the arrow store on your back, firing simultaneously with both arms at 180 degrees etc etc) All work well.

Personally I am looking forward to seeing what Oculus do for the next Rift iteration (the current model is getting a little long in the tooth) but for now IMO this headset gives a vastly improved experience over both the current Rift and the HTC Vive
Edited by: "rd3d2" 5th Feb
What is the advantage of this particular windows mixed reality headset over the other (cheaper and available in the UK) WMR offerings?
aclucas10 m ago

What is the advantage of this particular windows mixed reality headset …What is the advantage of this particular windows mixed reality headset over the other (cheaper and available in the UK) WMR offerings?


This odyssey has a higher resolution of 1600 x 1440 over the ones available in the UK which are 1440 x 1440. It also uses oled screens and also has built in mic/headphones. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if oculus and Samsung had some sort of arrangement so they couldn't sell these in the UK so they could try and shift more oculus rifts. That's just my opinion though.
Edited by: "steven5watson" 6th Feb
X-Cell21 h, 3 m ago

Bought a rift a month ago and if I had the choice now I still think I …Bought a rift a month ago and if I had the choice now I still think I would stick with the rift over this. Resolution isn't the only consideration, if you are playing to play a lot of different games everything on the rift just works. Most VR games will not be tested on this headset or written with the controllers in mind. Speaking of controllers the rift touch controllers are widely regarded as superior in every way. Having used them it will be hard going to anything else.Setting up tracking on the rift is a faff but once setup it works fine, I have no problems with 360 tracking on the 2 included cameras. Setup on the samsung will be easier but necessarily not better. The headset has to see your hands in order to work which is fine for most games but not all. Shooting at something and turn your head to see what is coming behind you, tracking lost. Not saying it's a bad headset or deal but should understand the cons rather than just look at the pros of the displays.


Seconded. Also the (non paid for) reviews of these headsets always seem to say the same thing, that they'll be good once the kinks are knocked out, especially w.r.t. the controllers
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Shard33 m ago

Seconded. Also the (non paid for) reviews of these headsets always seem to …Seconded. Also the (non paid for) reviews of these headsets always seem to say the same thing, that they'll be good once the kinks are knocked out, especially w.r.t. the controllers



I went from a Rift to a Lenovo MR Headset - definitely an improvement especially now that the kinks are sorted out. Can't resist going for this though as I prefer OLED over LCD and it will be nice to try out the hardware based IPD
Edited by: "rd3d2" 6th Feb
These MR/AR headsets are going to be the way VR goes forward, nobody wants wires trailing around the room to 2/3 and 4 sensors, but that said i love the rift, it has proven to me VR is here to stay and it is going to be big, but i am ready for the non sensor trailers wires around the room Vr expereince now, BUT!, as of yet they have not been priced anywhere near the price point needed to make them viable to the masses, well to the masses outside of the US, if i could have grabbed say the Dell on for £200 new from somewhere here in the UK i would have and dropped the Oculus, but as of yet there seems to be no real offical selling of these MR headsets in the EU, which i find very strange.
Edited by: "XP200" 6th Feb
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While it would be great to get all three of the following from MR headsets maybe we are being a little too optimistic?

Higher Resolution
Better Experience
Cheaper

Maybe 2 out of 3?
Edited by: "rd3d2" 6th Feb
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Edited by: "rasanh" 7th Feb
Robert_Thomas10 h, 48 m ago

Just thought I would put this here. …Just thought I would put this here. https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4357340


Well it can't be that dodgy or the devs here would have pulled this deal.
steven5watson4 h, 46 m ago

Well it can't be that dodgy or the devs here would have pulled this deal.


How would they know if it is. I just thought people should see somethings about the company. At no point did I say it was a bad deal or a rubbish product.
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As the op I too would have been worried about buying from Tobydeals were it not for the fact that a friend recommended them based on their own experience - and I have subsequently purchased 2 items from them and been very happy. But at the end of the day buying anything online is a risk that we have to accept.
Edited by: "rd3d2" 7th Feb
Robert_Thomas1 h, 9 m ago

How would they know if it is. I just thought people should see somethings …How would they know if it is. I just thought people should see somethings about the company. At no point did I say it was a bad deal or a rubbish product.


I've posted deals before from a website that wasn't reputable (I didn't know at the time) and it got pulled from the site with and explanation that it was dodgy. I'm sure the devs will have a list of legit and none legit sites. At least I hope so. Because I've ordered one
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steven5watson19 m ago

I've posted deals before from a website that wasn't reputable (I didn't …I've posted deals before from a website that wasn't reputable (I didn't know at the time) and it got pulled from the site with and explanation that it was dodgy. I'm sure the devs will have a list of legit and none legit sites. At least I hope so. Because I've ordered one



I think we are OK (I ordered one as well).
steven5watson43 m ago

I've posted deals before from a website that wasn't reputable (I didn't …I've posted deals before from a website that wasn't reputable (I didn't know at the time) and it got pulled from the site with and explanation that it was dodgy. I'm sure the devs will have a list of legit and none legit sites. At least I hope so. Because I've ordered one


I’ve never bought from them but I liked the look of it and thought I would look them up. So just put what I found. I hope it goes all ok for you and that you get it. Let us know how It went.
Edited by: "Robert_Thomas" 7th Feb
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Robert_Thomas1 h, 42 m ago

I’ve never bought from them but I liked the look of it and thought I would …I’ve never bought from them but I liked the look of it and thought I would look them up. So just put what I found. I hope it goes all ok for you and that you get it. Let us know how It went.


I think there have been negative views expressed on HUKD about TobyDeals before - but these are usually from people who haven't actually used them - that's why I made a point of saying that I had used them twice so far this year without incident.

So happy to cross my fingers again ;-)
Another option. Slightly more expensive at £459.99 but they accept Paypal which may give more peace of mind.

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Edited by moderator: "Fixed Link" 7th Feb
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I think eglobalcentral is just a sister site.

NB Both sites accept PayPal
Toby Deals is not liable for any goods which are lost or received damaged - you all think that's not dodgy
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mtc19 h, 27 m ago

Toby Deals is not liable for any goods which are lost or received damaged …Toby Deals is not liable for any goods which are lost or received damaged - you all think that's not dodgy



But they do offer options for insured postage.
rd3d25 h, 23 m ago

But they do offer options for insured postage.


A retailer is liable for the goods until delivered, this company makes it's own rules.
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mtc110 m ago

A retailer is liable for the goods until delivered, this company makes …A retailer is liable for the goods until delivered, this company makes it's own rules.



Surely that law applies to UK retailers not ones based in China?
Dodgy site if u ask me .... I have the day one htc Vive will do me for now .
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