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Samsung NC20 12" Netbook Nano XP from Dixons £360.79 inc P&P @ Dixons *JUST RELEASED THIS WEEK* (£429 IN PC WORLD)
Samsung NC20 12" Netbook Nano XP from Dixons £360.79 inc P&P @ Dixons *JUST RELEASED THIS WEEK* (£429 IN PC WORLD)

Samsung NC20 12" Netbook Nano XP from Dixons £360.79 inc P&P @ Dixons *JUST RELEASED THIS WEEK* (£429 IN PC WORLD)

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The latest 12" Netbook from samsung, new via nano processor that can run from 800mhz to 1.6Ghz (1.3Ghz on standard mode) depending on what setting you have it on (lower = better battery life). Handles HD video perfectly well too.

Specs:

Via Nano(TM) Processor The NC20 includes a market-leading energy efficient VIA C7® processor incorporating 65 nanometer process technologies. The VIA Nano processor offers up to four times the performance over previous generations within the same power range for the ideal blend of powerful performance and energy efficiency for a longer battery life.

Larger DisplayThe NC20's 12.1" wide display provide up to 30% more viewing area than traditional screens allowing you to enjoy photo-like image quality, greater viewing angles and better text legibility, reducing eye strain and, therefore, increasing productivity.

Full Size KeyboardThe NC20 incorporates a full-size, notebook PC style keyboard, for easy typing. Its ergonomic design and optimized key spacing make working and communicating as easy as if you were using a laptop.

Battery LifeA 6 Cell Battery means you can use the NC20 for up to 7.5 Hours (depending on operations and settings) this means you can leave your power cables at home making the NC20 even more portable!

The NC20's superb look and feel make it the perfect choice for anyone wanting to add a Netbook to their list of gadgets! Its slim and elegant chassis is accentuated with unique styling, and mirrored by the high quality of its components and materials, which include the enhanced energy efficiency and performance of the latest VIA Nano U2250 processor and full sized keyboard.

* Processor - Via Nano for portability
* Operating system - Windows XP Home
* Memory & storage - 1GB memory & 160GB HD

* Screen & weight - 12.1" & 1.5kg
* Features - Wireless & Bluetooth
* USB Connections - 3

Full specification

Processor Type Via Nano
Memory Size 1Gb MB
Hard Drive Capacity 160 GB
Floppy Disk Drive NO F
TV-out NO
Wireless Enabled YES
No. of USB Connections 3
Infrared Port Included NO
Other Interfaces Wireless Bluetooth
Battery life (up to) 7 hours
Weight 1.5 kg
Colour White

Some might be thinking yeah but I can get a proper laptop for that price, but to them I would say find me one with a 12" screen, 7hours Battery, and 1.5 KG weight?

Not for everyone I guess but I am quite liking it. Great for a few movies on a long flight etc.

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Interesting that they're using a Via chip and not a Atom. Though HP used a Via chip first in their netbook, but switched to Atom afterwards.

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Chanser;4498567

Interesting that they're using a Via chip and not a Atom. Though HP used … Interesting that they're using a Via chip and not a Atom. Though HP used a Via chip first in their netbook, but switched to Atom afterwards.



The new Via Nano should not be confused with those old awful processors used in the HP and Carphone webook, this is a new range of processors and they are easily on par with the atom. :thumbsup:

reviews.zdnet.co.uk/har…htm

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Chanser;4498567

Interesting that they're using a Via chip and not a Atom. Though HP used … Interesting that they're using a Via chip and not a Atom. Though HP used a Via chip first in their netbook, but switched to Atom afterwards.



The Atom chip won't work with screens over 10" and the Via is more power efficient, so you get a better battery life. There's a good explanation here:

samsungnc20.com/why…sor

Guswold;4499309

The Atom chip won't work with screens over 10" and the Via is more power … The Atom chip won't work with screens over 10" and the Via is more power efficient, so you get a better battery life. There's a good explanation here:http://www.samsungnc20.com/why-does-the-nc20-use-the-via-nano-processor



Think thats a load of rubbish. The 945 chipset will support it fine. I'm sure the problem is Intel wont let manufacturers use it as they want them to use the better chips in the 12" premium laptops.

Ok - apart from the chipset debate anyone please NC10 vs NC20 - is there a comparision anywhere?

What the heck has the screen size got to do with the processor!?!?? D:

Also, i've heard the Atom is actually a little more power efficient in one review. Though the Nano is more powerful per mhz. But then its hard to gauge which is more efficient cus they use different motherboards, and thus theres many other factors in power usage.

GAVINLEWISHUKD;4499462

Think thats a load of rubbish. The 945 chipset will support it fine. I'm … Think thats a load of rubbish. The 945 chipset will support it fine. I'm sure the problem is Intel wont let manufacturers use it as they want them to use the better chips in the 12" premium laptops.



Intel has previously stated “Intel defines a netbook as a 10″ or smaller screen size. We recommend that OEMs and netbook manufacturers use that guideline as well in order to get the best user experience.”

Whether that means the Atom won't work well with anything over 10" or just that Intel won't let manufacturers use it in anything over 10" is debatable, but you could well be right that it's the latter... either way the point is that Samsung's only choice for the NC20 was to use a Via Nano processor. BUT the Via is still more power efficient.

Yeahy just ordered mine 3 - 5 days delivery, if you use the Top Cash Back website you also get 3% cashback too !

looks like a very good price compared to other suppliers...

im looking to replace an aging toshiba portege r100 which has a pentium M 1GHz cpu and was wondering how that would compare with the via nano? (or the atom for that matter?)

Ps id imagine the biggest difference in power efficiency between the NC10 and Nc20 would be the the larger screen. Tho i could be wrong

heat and rep added, one of best deals out here yet. dont forget topcashback ontop making it even better

When you get too 12" you may as just buy what i did an acer 2930 better in every way apart from battery life only 3-3.5 hours. but for £399 much better in my opinion.

I know what your saying about the Acer 2930, i guess it depends on if you want lighter with longer battery life or better performance, bit of a toss up!!
misco.co.uk/app…p=0

only one of those discount links work, the feb2

the net3 does nothing unless im doing it wrong

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bak2brighton;4504855

only one of those discount links work, the feb2the net3 does nothing … only one of those discount links work, the feb2the net3 does nothing unless im doing it wrong



Both working, just retried

thanks got it to work

also done it through topcashback to get extra 3% back

so means i'll end up paying£349.97

thats a bargain thx :thumbsup:

I saw this price on Dixons' site myself the other day.. it's a good price but I think the NET3 code expires very soon.
Comes in at around £346.36 if Quidco tracks... which is a great price, only £40 more than the NC10

packard;4499650

Ok - apart from the chipset debate anyone please NC10 vs NC20 - is there … Ok - apart from the chipset debate anyone please NC10 vs NC20 - is there a comparision anywhere?



I've been deciding between the Samsung NC10 and the Samsung NC20 myself for the past week, and here are the key differences I've found..

Screen resolution:
NC10: 1024x600
NC20: 1280x800

This for me is the main problem I have with the NC10...
Even though 1024x600 is pretty much the industry standard for a netbook, I think it would annoy me too much browsing (and designing) websites, or editting Excel spreadsheets. The extra 200 vertical pixels are going to make a lot of difference to me personally. For most people I'm sure it's perfectly acceptable though
The NC20 has glossy LED LCD screen, whereas the NC10 has a matt (ie non glossy) TFT screen - which is worth considering

Battery life:
The battery life on the NC20 (despite using the same battery) is nowhere near as good as the NC10. The extra screen space and processor accounts for this. People seem to get around 7 hours on the NC10.. but the gagadget.com review of the NC20 was only getting 4hours for relative minor tasks. (2 hours with everything on full whack, and the processor being tested to the max... 6 hours with absolutely nothing on... and about 4hours for normal tasks-web browsing,wifi on,watching a couple of videos) . One of the massive selling points for the NC10 is the excellent battery life of ~7hours.

Trackpad
The keyboard is supposed to be very good on both models, almost full-sized... but the trackpad on the NC10 is very small... this is improved on the NC20

Processor
The NC20 uses a new Via Nano U2250 1.3Ghz processor, whereas the NC10 uses an Atom N270 1.6Ghz

Weight/Dimensions
NC10: 10.2"
259.7mm x 184.5mm x 30.3mm
Weight:1.3kg = 2.86lbs (6cell battery)

NC20: 12.1"
292.4mm x 216.7mm x 25.6mm
Weight: 1.5kg = 3.3lbs

(As a comparison, my old macbookpro weights 2.36kg)

The NC20 loses nearly all of the portable appeal of the NC10.. and is nearer to a regular full-sized laptop than a take anywhere netbook.
You might as well get a fully powered 12"/13" machine if you are going to be lugging around the NC20

Both machines reportedly play 720p if you install the right codecs.. however YouTube HD and Vimeo HD are a problem

The other thing to consider is that there is a new version of the NC10 out any day that also includes a 3G sim card slot and a better trackpad (but it's retailing at £100 more than the standard NC10)... it may mean that the standard NC10 drops in price soon though(?)

Both machines come with 1gb RAM as standard, but it is very easy to install a 2gb card (this will cost you about £17). I believe you can also throw in your own 320gb or 500gb 2.5" drive, if the 160gb drive wasn't big enough for you.

Neither machine has wifi N (just wifi b/g)
Both come with Windows XP home

These sites should come in handy:
sammynetbook.com/plu…php
portablemonkey.com/
netbooknews.de/ (foreign)
umpcfever.com/ (foreign)
small-laptops.com/
umpcportal.com/
liliputing.com/
notebookreview.com/


I've done a lot of research across these sites, but the last thing that remains is to go and test one out in person at a shop (like Micro Anvika) -- but I am currently swaying to the NC10 for portabilities sake

Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong on any of my spec above. Hope this helps

kowalski;4508298

I saw this price on Dixons' site myself the other day.. it's a good price … I saw this price on Dixons' site myself the other day.. it's a good price but I think the NET3 code expires very soon. Comes in at around £346.36 if Quidco tracks... which is a great price, only £40 more than the NC10I've been deciding between the Samsung NC10 and the Samsung NC20 myself for the past week, and here are the key differences I've found..Screen resolution:NC10: 1024x600NC20: 1280x800This for me is the main problem I have with the NC10...Even though 1024x600 is pretty much the industry standard for a netbook, I think it would annoy me too much browsing (and designing) websites, or editting Excel spreadsheets. The extra 200 vertical pixels are going to make a lot of difference to me personally. For most people I'm sure it's perfectly acceptable thoughThe NC20 has glossy LED LCD screen, whereas the NC10 has a matt (ie non glossy) TFT screen - which is worth consideringBattery life:The battery life on the NC20 (despite using the same battery) is nowhere near as good as the NC10. The extra screen space and processor accounts for this. People seem to get around 7 hours on the NC10.. but the gagadget.com review of the NC20 was only getting 4hours for relative minor tasks. (2 hours with everything on full whack, and the processor being tested to the max... 6 hours with absolutely nothing on... and about 4hours for normal tasks-web browsing,wifi on,watching a couple of videos) . One of the massive selling points for the NC10 is the excellent battery life of ~7hours.TrackpadThe keyboard is supposed to be very good on both models, almost full-sized... but the trackpad on the NC10 is very small... this is improved on the NC20ProcessorThe NC20 uses a new Via Nano U2250 1.3Ghz processor, whereas the NC10 uses an Atom N270 1.6GhzWeight/DimensionsNC10: 10.2"259.7mm x 184.5mm x 30.3mmWeight:1.3kg = 2.86lbs (6cell battery)NC20: 12.1"292.4mm x 216.7mm x 25.6mmWeight: 1.5kg = 3.3lbs (As a comparison, my old macbookpro weights 2.36kg)The NC20 loses nearly all of the portable appeal of the NC10.. and is nearer to a regular full-sized laptop than a take anywhere netbook. You might as well get a fully powered 12"/13" machine if you are going to be lugging around the NC20 :)Both machines reportedly play 720p if you install the right codecs.. however YouTube HD and Vimeo HD are a problemThe other thing to consider is that there is a new version of the NC10 out any day that also includes a 3G sim card slot and a better trackpad (but it's retailing at £100 more than the standard NC10)... it may mean that the standard NC10 drops in price soon though(?)Both machines come with 1gb RAM as standard, but it is very easy to install a 2gb card (this will cost you about £17). I believe you can also throw in your own 320gb or 500gb 2.5" drive, if the 160gb drive wasn't big enough for you.Neither machine has wifi N (just wifi b/g)Both come with Windows XP homeThese sites should come in handy:http://www.sammynetbook.com/plugins/forum/forum.phphttp://portablemonkey.com/http://www.netbooknews.de/ (foreign)http://www.umpcfever.com/ (foreign)http://www.small-laptops.com/http://www.umpcportal.com/http://www.liliputing.com/http://www.notebookreview.com/I've done a lot of research across these sites, but the last thing that remains is to go and test one out in person at a shop (like Micro Anvika) -- but I am currently swaying to the NC10 for portabilities sake Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong on any of my spec above. Hope this helps



Very helpful and detailed post kowalski, many thanks!

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kowalski;4508298

The NC20 loses nearly all of the portable appeal of the NC10.. and is … The NC20 loses nearly all of the portable appeal of the NC10.. and is nearer to a regular full-sized laptop than a take anywhere netbook. You might as well get a fully powered 12"/13" machine if you are going to be lugging around the NC20



I think when you see one in the flesh you will be suprised at quite a how small and light the NC20 is

Well my NC20 turned up today and i can say i'm very pleased with ,the larger screen is much better then then nc10. When i was messing with the display settings my time remaining on the battery went up to 6.7 hours at 96% charge.

The Shopper;4533732

Well my NC20 turned up today and i can say i'm very pleased with ,the … Well my NC20 turned up today and i can say i'm very pleased with ,the larger screen is much better then then nc10. When i was messing with the display settings my time remaining on the battery went up to 6.7 hours at 96% charge.



please let us know how the battery performs over the next few days I'd be interested to hear some real-world results

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Acer 2930 is more powerful but the NC20 is 600g lighter which makes a hell of a difference if you're lugging it round every day. The Via Nano is supposed to be as fast if not slightly faster than the Atom N270 and more adept at handling video. Seeing as you're not gonna be playing Crysis on either machine, the NC20 is brilliant and more than up to the task of web browsing, word processing and video playback. I've used the Dell Mini 12 and while the keyboard is aweful, and smaller than the NC20, the screen size is much more pleasant than any 10" netbook I've used which include the NC10, Elonex Webbok and MSI Wind.

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Price £379.54
:-(

markrfc;4502755

When you get too 12" you may as just buy what i did an acer 2930 better … When you get too 12" you may as just buy what i did an acer 2930 better in every way apart from battery life only 3-3.5 hours. but for £399 much better in my opinion.



Seems to be at least 500 quid at the moment, not really in the same ballpark as the nc20.

Sorry to be pedantic, but why on earth would you spend over £350 on a netbook?

IWannaBeAdored;5295465

Sorry to be pedantic, but why on earth would you spend over £350 on a … Sorry to be pedantic, but why on earth would you spend over £350 on a netbook?



Unfortunately, i have to agree with the above.

£150 for an Acer Aspire, but is this Samsung worth more than twice that?

For £350 you can get a 17" dual core laptop.

The only reason Intel say that the Atom processor is not suitable for 10 inch+ is because they don't want their notebook market to diminish by people purchasing the relatively cheaper netbooks.

IWannaBeAdored;5295465

Sorry to be pedantic, but why on earth would you spend over £350 on a … Sorry to be pedantic, but why on earth would you spend over £350 on a netbook?



I agree...... Im all for netbooks, but the prices just seem to be going up with every generation, and also a reduction in the qualities that actually make them portable netbooks

shareef;5295692

I agree...... Im all for netbooks, but the prices just seem to be going … I agree...... Im all for netbooks, but the prices just seem to be going up with every generation, and also a reduction in the qualities that actually make them portable netbooks



Well hopefully when the pineview Atom gets released in the autumn we can start heading back in the right direction.

once the screen size goes over 10" it defeats the object.....you might as well just get a regular laptop.......

The NC10 still rules the roost in terms of size performance and price

kowalski;4508298

I saw this price on Dixons' site myself the other day.. it's a good price … I saw this price on Dixons' site myself the other day.. it's a good price but I think the NET3 code expires very soon. Comes in at around £346.36 if Quidco tracks... which is a great price, only £40 more than the NC10I've been deciding between the Samsung NC10 and the Samsung NC20 myself for the past week, and here are the key differences I've found..Screen resolution:NC10: 1024x600NC20: 1280x800This for me is the main problem I have with the NC10...Even though 1024x600 is pretty much the industry standard for a netbook, I think it would annoy me too much browsing (and designing) websites, or editting Excel spreadsheets. The extra 200 vertical pixels are going to make a lot of difference to me personally. For most people I'm sure it's perfectly acceptable thoughThe NC20 has glossy LED LCD screen, whereas the NC10 has a matt (ie non glossy) TFT screen - which is worth consideringBattery life:The battery life on the NC20 (despite using the same battery) is nowhere near as good as the NC10. The extra screen space and processor accounts for this. People seem to get around 7 hours on the NC10.. but the ]gagadget.com review of the NC20 was only getting 4hours for relative minor tasks. (2 hours with everything on full whack, and the processor being tested to the max... 6 hours with absolutely nothing on... and about 4hours for normal tasks-web browsing,wifi on,watching a couple of videos) . One of the massive selling points for the NC10 is the excellent battery life of ~7hours.TrackpadThe keyboard is supposed to be very good on both models, almost full-sized... but the trackpad on the NC10 is very small... this is improved on the NC20ProcessorThe NC20 uses a new Via Nano U2250 1.3Ghz processor, whereas the NC10 uses an Atom N270 1.6GhzWeight/DimensionsNC10: 10.2"259.7mm x 184.5mm x 30.3mmWeight:1.3kg = 2.86lbs (6cell battery)NC20: 12.1"292.4mm x 216.7mm x 25.6mmWeight: 1.5kg = 3.3lbs (As a comparison, my old macbookpro weights 2.36kg)The NC20 loses nearly all of the portable appeal of the NC10.. and is nearer to a regular full-sized laptop than a take anywhere netbook. You might as well get a fully powered 12"/13" machine if you are going to be lugging around the NC20 :)Both machines reportedly play 720p if you install the right codecs.. however YouTube HD and Vimeo HD are a problemThe other thing to consider is that there is a new version of the NC10 out any day that also includes a 3G sim card slot and a better trackpad (but it's retailing at £100 more than the standard NC10)... it may mean that the standard NC10 drops in price soon though(?)Both machines come with 1gb RAM as standard, but it is very easy to install a 2gb card (this will cost you about £17). I believe you can also throw in your own 320gb or 500gb 2.5" drive, if the 160gb drive wasn't big enough for you.Neither machine has wifi N (just wifi b/g)Both come with Windows XP homeThese sites should come in handy:http://www.sammynetbook.com/plugins/forum/forum.phphttp://portablemonkey.com/http://www.netbooknews.de/ (foreign)http://www.umpcfever.com/ (foreign)http://www.small-laptops.com/http://www.umpcportal.com/http://www.liliputing.com/http://www.notebookreview.com/I've done a lot of research across these sites, but the last thing that remains is to go and test one out in person at a shop (like Micro Anvika) -- but I am currently swaying to the NC10 for portabilities sake Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong on any of my spec above. Hope this helps



I have an NC10 and NC20 but I would says that you can easily get 5 hours out of the battery and you can clock the CPU down.

It depends what you want but the 20 is not much bigger than the 10 but the screen and keyboard are just outstanding.

jmtd;5295435

Seems to be at least 500 quid at the moment, not really in the same … Seems to be at least 500 quid at the moment, not really in the same ballpark as the nc20.



When i bought mine they were only £399 delivered, that's the exchange rate for you.:-D

arpster;5295769

once the screen size goes over 10" it defeats the object.....you might as … once the screen size goes over 10" it defeats the object.....you might as well just get a regular laptop.......The NC10 still rules the roost in terms of size performance and price



I have to say, owning a 10 and a 20, the 20 is a MUCH better netbook than the 10. Once you have seen that screen and used that keyboard there is no going back. Trust me.

The only time I would use the 10 over the 20 is on a flight.

I've been deciding between the Samsung NC10 and the Samsung NC20 myself … I've been deciding between the Samsung NC10 and the Samsung NC20 myself for the past week, and here are the key differences I've found..



Would also just like to say thanks for a really succint review of the 2 machines.
Thanks - rep added

John Mason;5295936

I have to say, owning a 10 and a 20, the 20 is a MUCH better netbook than … I have to say, owning a 10 and a 20, the 20 is a MUCH better netbook than the 10. Once you have seen that screen and used that keyboard there is no going back. Trust me.The only time I would use the 10 over the 20 is on a flight.




nah....not for me im afraid....the portability and battery life are the killer apps on the NC10....and you lose some of that with the bigger model. Im happy with my 10 inches :whistling:

arpster;5296059

nah....not for me im afraid....the portability and battery life are the … nah....not for me im afraid....the portability and battery life are the killer apps on the NC10....and you lose some of that with the bigger model. Im happy with my 10 inches :whistling:



No, not an inch less than 12 for me. :-)

IWannaBeAdored;5295465

Sorry to be pedantic, but why on earth would you spend over £350 on a … Sorry to be pedantic, but why on earth would you spend over £350 on a netbook?



Because to get a sub-1.5kg core 2 duo PC with 5 hours battery life will cost you north of a thousand pounds. It may not be what you're looking for, but it's not like there's something else that's better all-round for this price.

I was going to vote this cold because the Dell mini 12 was cheaper, but it appears to have vanished from the dell site?

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