Samsung QE65Q8CAM £2299 @ Co-op electrical
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Samsung QE65Q8CAM £2299 @ Co-op electrical

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Found 21st Dec 2017
65” Q8C Curved QLED Certified Ultra HD Premium HDR 1500 Smart 4K TV.

Seems like a good price.
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£969 on AO website!
I think it's the same tv xx
Ken_Lowcock-11294206055539 m ago

https://ao.com/product/ue65mu6120-samsung-tv-black-50973-108.aspx£969 on …https://ao.com/product/ue65mu6120-samsung-tv-black-50973-108.aspx£969 on AO website!I think it's the same tv xx


ummm i think not.. model number is usually a giveaway lol

Currys have it for £2699
currys.co.uk/gbu…tml
Edited by: "SunshineEveryday" 21st Dec 2017
Ken_Lowcock-11294206055538 m ago

https://ao.com/product/ue65mu6120-samsung-tv-black-50973-108.aspx£969 on …https://ao.com/product/ue65mu6120-samsung-tv-black-50973-108.aspx£969 on AO website!I think it's the same tv xx


Definitely not the same TV, same company, same size, but much lower spec.

PCT75 gets you £75 off the OP's deal
Ken_Lowcock-11294206055539 m ago

https://ao.com/product/ue65mu6120-samsung-tv-black-50973-108.aspx£969 on …https://ao.com/product/ue65mu6120-samsung-tv-black-50973-108.aspx£969 on AO website!I think it's the same tv xx


2300 good price? it's bent!
Ken_Lowcock-112942060555313 m ago

https://ao.com/product/ue65mu6120-samsung-tv-black-50973-108.aspx£969 on …https://ao.com/product/ue65mu6120-samsung-tv-black-50973-108.aspx£969 on AO website!I think it's the same tv xx


qled model not led! these are the silly money tv's. op right though that this is current cheapest price
The price is laughable. You can buy oled.

qled marketing fooling people as usual. Nice work Samsung.
Ridiculous that they charge this much for not even truly 4k TVs
The Q9 is over another grand, it's crazy.
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thedoctor1ko40 m ago

Ridiculous that they charge this much for not even truly 4k TVs


Not truly 4K?
Absurd price for what is basically an LCD TV.

If you're inclined to spend this kind of money on a TV, buy an OLED. Despite the similar terminology (deliberately on Samsung's part), OLED is a completely different (and superior) technology to LCD, whereas QLED is just another flavour of LCD. It's a good development of LCD, but it's still inherently limited by virtue of requiring some form of independent backlight.

So, OLED is here now, and it's the best display technology we have. It's also now fairly mature as a consumer TV technology. It's not yet cheap, but it's reasonably affordable. So don't be fooled by QLED. You'd be a fool to pay this kind of money for a QLED when the same size OLED is available at a similar price.

For reference, there are fundamentally just 4 TV display technologies:

1 - Cathode Ray Tube (CRT) - Fat, heavy TVs. The world before flat panels. Some were decent.
2 - Plasma - Very good, but fairly heavy, bulky, power hungry, and inferior to OLED.
3 - Liquid Crystal Display (LCD) - Includes TFT, IPS, LCD, LED* (backlit) LCD, Edge-lit LED LCD, QLED
4 - Organic Light Emitting Diode (OLED)**

*LED in TV marketing terms just means that LEDs (Light Emitting Diodes) are used for the backlight, whilst Liquid Crystal panel provides the colour filter on top of the backlight.

**OLED means that (Organic) LEDs actually are the pixels. There is only one layer to an OLED TV. Each pixel emits it's own light, and filters the colour. It's a game changer. The technology isn't related, but OLED has just as much in common with plasma as it does with LCD/LED/QLED.
Edited by: "Furyous" 22nd Dec 2017
Furyous18 m ago

Absurd price for what is basically an LCD TV.If you're inclined to spend …Absurd price for what is basically an LCD TV.If you're inclined to spend this kind of money on a TV, buy an OLED. Despite the similar terminology (deliberately on Samsung's part), OLED is a completely different (and superior) technology to LCD, whereas QLED is just another flavour of LCD. It's a good development of LCD, but it's still inherently limited by virtue of requiring some form of independent backlight.So, OLED is the present and the future. Not PLED, or QLED, or RLED, or SLED. Don't spend premium money on anything else.


I'd disagree. It's the output that matters, not the technology behind it.

OLED do have a couple of advantages that make them the obvious choice in some circumstances. They're great for viewing in the dark and at extreme angles, but they also can't match the HDR range of a high end LCD.

Of course, whether the Q8 is a high end product is debatable. It's local dimming system really lets it down, Samsung made a mistake not continuing with the KS9500's system and the Sony XE93 at the same price is a far better offering this year.
EndlessWaves33 m ago

I'd disagree. It's the output that matters, not the technology behind it. …I'd disagree. It's the output that matters, not the technology behind it. OLED do have a couple of advantages that make them the obvious choice in some circumstances. They're great for viewing in the dark and at extreme angles, but they also can't match the HDR range of a high end LCD.Of course, whether the Q8 is a high end product is debatable. It's local dimming system really lets it down, Samsung made a mistake not continuing with the KS9500's system and the Sony XE93 at the same price is a far better offering this year.


Actually, the HDR ratings for OLED are different. They don't need the same maximum output rating in nits, in recognition that they essentially offer an infinite contrast ratio.

Despite that, HDR is artificial. It's the new '3D' IMO. It creates drama, but it's very rarely representative of how the world looks to the human eye. I want my display to be capable of faithfully reproducing an authentic image, not an exaggerated image.
Edited by: "Furyous" 22nd Dec 2017
Furyous10 h, 31 m ago

Actually, the HDR ratings for OLED are different. They don't need the same …Actually, the HDR ratings for OLED are different. They don't need the same maximum output rating in nits, in recognition that they essentially offer an infinite contrast ratio.


Not really. 'infinite' is just shorthand for 'our previous test is no longer relevent'. OLED contrast is now limited by just the light falling on the screen rather than the light being emitted from it. Given the lower brightness it can actually have less contrast in a well lit room than an LCD.

I haven't seen much HDR, but that which I have seen definitely looks more realistic to me. The Planet Earth II demo on an OLED felt far more like a tropical sunlit jungle than the HD version.
How much time have you spent in a tropical sunlit jungle by way of comparison? Or in glacial water off the coast of Greenland? Or anywhere else that Planet Earth has happened to film.

That aside, your contrast argument is a bit irrelevant. If you're spending premium money on a TV, then you're likely to take the viewing experience seriously. In which case, you won't be watching your HD/4K movies (or boxsets) in a brightly lit room. Lights down; volume up, etc. In which case, OLED can always compete with - and beat - LCD (QLED) for contrast.

Not that HDR is worth the bother anyway.
Edited by: "Furyous" 23rd Dec 2017
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