samsung smart things hub - £45 w/code @ Currys
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@Cuddl3s these are cloud based so if they shut the servers down it won't work. I've made my own Openhab server from a raspberry pi to control all my smart items, means I'm in control of the server and works with no Internet. Takes a bit of set up and programming though.
I already use ST in my flat in Spain to control lights, about 50 sensors, aircon, media, cameras, locks etc etc. I wanted one for where I live in Slough. I did consider using a spare Pi and going down the Home Assistant route. However, whilst the Pi would not have cost me anything a Zigbee / Z-Wave dongle would have cost at least forty quid. So instead I grabbed one of these that will work out cheaper for someone like me who doesnt want to get involved too deeply in building my own.

My system in Spain is simple and rarely do I have reason to complain. It has remained up and stable the last few years. My sensors are mainly Xiaomi, cameras Foscam, Yale lock, Alexa, Sensibo for Aircon, various wifi speakers. I would recommend ST to anyone especially now with hubs so cheap - Sonoff switches less than £8 and various Xiaomi sendsors at £7 and less.

What I particularly like about ST is the community which does a massive amount of development of device handlers and Smart apps. There is always someone to help solve any problems as ST support isnt great.

I would definitely recommend going down this route for someone who wants something out of the box that works well.
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Can someone tell me if this thing really worth it considering the dependance on samsung servers, if they shut the severs one day wont that basically make the box next to useless and wouldnt it be better to wait for smartthings 3 which i imagine should be just around the corner as this has been out for some time now
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Cuddl3s1 m ago

Can someone tell me if this thing really worth it considering the …Can someone tell me if this thing really worth it considering the dependance on samsung servers, if they shut the severs one day wont that basically make the box next to useless and wouldnt it be better to wait for smartthings 3 which i imagine should be just around the corner as this has been out for some time now


For me it is well worth it. There’s a plethora of other devices it works with. My use Case it hook it up with fibaro.
rhythmandsoul7 m ago

For me it is well worth it. There’s a plethora of other devices it works w …For me it is well worth it. There’s a plethora of other devices it works with. My use Case it hook it up with fibaro.


I know it works with alot of sensors and can automate alot of thing, from reading my worry is its dependance on samsung servers which seem to go off quite offen, what will happen with it if one day they decide to shut them down willnit still work?
@Cuddl3s these are cloud based so if they shut the servers down it won't work. I've made my own Openhab server from a raspberry pi to control all my smart items, means I'm in control of the server and works with no Internet. Takes a bit of set up and programming though.
stoneblade17 m ago

@Cuddl3s these are cloud based so if they shut the servers down it won't …@Cuddl3s these are cloud based so if they shut the servers down it won't work. I've made my own Openhab server from a raspberry pi to control all my smart items, means I'm in control of the server and works with no Internet. Takes a bit of set up and programming though.


Could this be done with Hue as well?
@Geemac it's possible to control them via openhab, but it still have to have go through hue servers Most of my set up consists of sonoff switches, which are can be flashed with custom firmware which then connects to my server.
Edited by: "stoneblade" 15th Mar
stoneblade16 m ago

@Geemac it's possible to control them via openhab, but it still have to …@Geemac it's possible to control them via openhab, but it still have to have go through hue servers Most of my set up consists of sonoff switches, which are can be flashed with custom firmware which then connects to my server.


Thanks. i'm thinking to move to sonoff for that reason.
Cuddl3s57 m ago

Can someone tell me if this thing really worth it considering the …Can someone tell me if this thing really worth it considering the dependance on samsung servers, if they shut the severs one day wont that basically make the box next to useless and wouldnt it be better to wait for smartthings 3 which i imagine should be just around the corner as this has been out for some time now


Depends what you want I guess but I had a mixture of different devices and this pulls it all together, everything from various makes of smart bulbs and switches thru to rewiring the old house alarm to make it 'smart' and connected and use it's PIRs to trigger events in the hub etc, to controlling chromecasts - I put them on pause when I want to tell the kids it's food time ! Is any of it really necessary perhaps not but it's aids lots of things and is fun . I am not aware that they are working on smart things 3 - although they are rewriting the app
Cuddl3s49 m ago

I know it works with alot of sensors and can automate alot of thing, from …I know it works with alot of sensors and can automate alot of thing, from reading my worry is its dependance on samsung servers which seem to go off quite offen, what will happen with it if one day they decide to shut them down willnit still work?


Personally I've not noticed any downtime n last few months. but I know others have mentioend it.
I already use ST in my flat in Spain to control lights, about 50 sensors, aircon, media, cameras, locks etc etc. I wanted one for where I live in Slough. I did consider using a spare Pi and going down the Home Assistant route. However, whilst the Pi would not have cost me anything a Zigbee / Z-Wave dongle would have cost at least forty quid. So instead I grabbed one of these that will work out cheaper for someone like me who doesnt want to get involved too deeply in building my own.

My system in Spain is simple and rarely do I have reason to complain. It has remained up and stable the last few years. My sensors are mainly Xiaomi, cameras Foscam, Yale lock, Alexa, Sensibo for Aircon, various wifi speakers. I would recommend ST to anyone especially now with hubs so cheap - Sonoff switches less than £8 and various Xiaomi sendsors at £7 and less.

What I particularly like about ST is the community which does a massive amount of development of device handlers and Smart apps. There is always someone to help solve any problems as ST support isnt great.

I would definitely recommend going down this route for someone who wants something out of the box that works well.
no stock and can't get delivery
Amazon has it for £49.99 when you go to the page it is on the right under amazon prime offers .. DElievry from sapain
Edited by: "said_enough" 15th Mar
I ordered one a day or two ago at this price but rang up and cancelled it because I personally don't want my finished setup to be reliant on the cloud I've got the Xiaomi RGB lights running on local LAN settings with flashed sonoffs plus echo dots, just set up an Argos kettle today connected to a sonoff POW. I just tell Alexa to turn the kettle on, it's little steps a bit at a time but as I said I'm hoping at the end it will all run locally
Edited by: "Buyer1024GB" 15th Mar
justonemorepie4 h, 22 m ago

I already use ST in my flat in Spain to control lights, about 50 sensors, …I already use ST in my flat in Spain to control lights, about 50 sensors, aircon, media, cameras, locks etc etc. I wanted one for where I live in Slough. I did consider using a spare Pi and going down the Home Assistant route. However, whilst the Pi would not have cost me anything a Zigbee / Z-Wave dongle would have cost at least forty quid. So instead I grabbed one of these that will work out cheaper for someone like me who doesnt want to get involved too deeply in building my own. My system in Spain is simple and rarely do I have reason to complain. It has remained up and stable the last few years. My sensors are mainly Xiaomi, cameras Foscam, Yale lock, Alexa, Sensibo for Aircon, various wifi speakers. I would recommend ST to anyone especially now with hubs so cheap - Sonoff switches less than £8 and various Xiaomi sendsors at £7 and less.What I particularly like about ST is the community which does a massive amount of development of device handlers and Smart apps. There is always someone to help solve any problems as ST support isnt great.I would definitely recommend going down this route for someone who wants something out of the box that works well.


Hi. I got ST about a month ago. Had harmony ultimate for 4yrs and not used.
2 x echo dot,
1 x google home,
4 x xiaomi sensors
2 x xiaomi door sensors.
1 x ring doorbell
Is that a good setup? I have yet to set them up but find it a little complicated. I copied and pasted the xiaomi codes onto ST website but havent done next stage. Also with 3m high ceilings i done konw if the sensor will cover floor to ceiling.
stoneblade9 h, 32 m ago

@Geemac it's possible to control them via openhab, but it still have to …@Geemac it's possible to control them via openhab, but it still have to have go through hue servers Most of my set up consists of sonoff switches, which are can be flashed with custom firmware which then connects to my server.


Anyone managed to control light switches with a sonoff ? As most UK is wired as a live switch with no ground
How feasible is that ?
Are these v1 or v2? Tried to order yesterday but oos so I did not post the deal!
how compatible is the xiaomi stuff with ST hub? yesterday, I got the xiaomi hub, motion and door sensors set up in my house. just a few. the sensors options are in Chinese, the yeelights automated options are in English so that was fun working everything out LOL

I'd love to get into home assistant but its too complicated. ive messaged them to state that they need to produce something, with the Pi which would be ready out of the box.
stoneblade14 h, 43 m ago

@Cuddl3s these are cloud based so if they shut the servers down it won't …@Cuddl3s these are cloud based so if they shut the servers down it won't work. I've made my own Openhab server from a raspberry pi to control all my smart items, means I'm in control of the server and works with no Internet. Takes a bit of set up and programming though.



how difficult is it for a newbie? I'd need a step by step guide.
Buyer1024GB13 h, 3 m ago

I ordered one a day or two ago at this price but rang up and cancelled it …I ordered one a day or two ago at this price but rang up and cancelled it because I personally don't want my finished setup to be reliant on the cloud I've got the Xiaomi RGB lights running on local LAN settings with flashed sonoffs plus echo dots, just set up an Argos kettle today connected to a sonoff POW. I just tell Alexa to turn the kettle on, it's little steps a bit at a time but as I said I'm hoping at the end it will all run locally



what is local LAN meaning how does it differ to the wifi normal set up? relying on external servers is a pain and obviously can go anytime but the home assistant route just seems more for people who have a working programme knowledge.
@mahmouddiaa I've ordered a couple from China so watch this space if I can get them to work.

@EN1GMA you need some sort of knowledge of linux, SHH and the ability to solder a header into the devices you want to upload the firmware. There are step by step guides on the internet (google is your friend) and loads of youtube videos about. The great thing is the sonoff products range from £3 - £10 each so if you mess something up its not breaking the bank. Have a look on youtube at the videos and see if you think you can do it, would be your best bet.
stoneblade41 m ago

@mahmouddiaa I've ordered a couple from China so watch this space if I can …@mahmouddiaa I've ordered a couple from China so watch this space if I can get them to work. @EN1GMA you need some sort of knowledge of linux, SHH and the ability to solder a header into the devices you want to upload the firmware. There are step by step guides on the internet (google is your friend) and loads of youtube videos about. The great thing is the sonoff products range from £3 - £10 each so if you mess something up its not breaking the bank. Have a look on youtube at the videos and see if you think you can do it, would be your best bet.


Can I buy them ready to use without the soldering business?
@stoneblade thanks for the response mate. Unfortunately it's a combination of young family not enough time and not the know how to do it.

Id like to buy the sonoff stuff already rewired ready to go.

If something is LAN set up, does that mean I lose the ability to control it from outside my home, say from work for example?
stoneblade1 h, 20 m ago

@mahmouddiaa I've ordered a couple from China so watch this space if I can …@mahmouddiaa I've ordered a couple from China so watch this space if I can get them to work. @EN1GMA you need some sort of knowledge of linux, SHH and the ability to solder a header into the devices you want to upload the firmware. There are step by step guides on the internet (google is your friend) and loads of youtube videos about. The great thing is the sonoff products range from £3 - £10 each so if you mess something up its not breaking the bank. Have a look on youtube at the videos and see if you think you can do it, would be your best bet.


Actually there are new firmwares that can be flashed wirelessly
And yes will be looking forward for that
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Buyer1024GB15 h, 58 m ago

I ordered one a day or two ago at this price but rang up and cancelled it …I ordered one a day or two ago at this price but rang up and cancelled it because I personally don't want my finished setup to be reliant on the cloud I've got the Xiaomi RGB lights running on local LAN settings with flashed sonoffs plus echo dots, just set up an Argos kettle today connected to a sonoff POW. I just tell Alexa to turn the kettle on, it's little steps a bit at a time but as I said I'm hoping at the end it will all run locally


Hi, can you explain how you turn the kettle on with the Sonoff switch because most kettles normally have a physical button to turn on.

Thanks.
@mahmouddiaa I did t realise you could do that. But just has a look and can see it's not 100% and you may have to revert back to serial upload.

@EN1GMA im sure I saw some on ebay already flashed, but we're a little more expensive. But if I was you with how busy you are I would go with the OP way as its plug and play no messing around.

@thesilversurfer2009 the only way to do it would be to turn the kettle on with the sonoff off and then when you switch the sonoff on it would boil. Then put back in ready to boil state after use. Or you could solder in the switch to the kettle but wouldn't recommend unless you know what your doing.
anyone know how to get the xiaomi sensors to report the battery level properly?
mahmouddiaa9 h, 43 m ago

Anyone managed to control light switches with a sonoff ? As most UK is …Anyone managed to control light switches with a sonoff ? As most UK is wired as a live switch with no ground How feasible is that ?


Not sure what you mean but the back box and ceiling rose should have a ground in case you install a metal fascia on them. Only if something is double insulated you won't see an earth but the back box should still have one available.
kester7653 m ago

Not sure what you mean but the back box and ceiling rose should have a …Not sure what you mean but the back box and ceiling rose should have a ground in case you install a metal fascia on them. Only if something is double insulated you won't see an earth but the back box should still have one available.


In mine I can see the wire but obviously not connected to the switch
But apparently lots of people saying it is not working at all not sure about the exact details as I am not an expert
But something related to “live only switch” and “no ground to power the sonoff” also the recommendation was that only a smart dimmer would be the only option in the UK as only needs small amount of current
Dunno
I am tempted to try but I just don’t get the “live switch” thing
Check this thread on AVforums
Edited by: "mahmouddiaa" 16th Mar
so what can i do with it?
mahmouddiaa26 m ago

In mine I can see the wire but obviously not connected to the switch But …In mine I can see the wire but obviously not connected to the switch But apparently lots of people saying it is not working at all not sure about the exact details as I am not an expert But something related to “live only switch” and “no ground to power the sonoff” also the recommendation was that only a smart dimmer would be the only option in the UK as only needs small amount of current Dunno I am tempted to try but I just don’t get the “live switch” thingCheck this thread on AVforums


I see what you mean. You need a live and neutral to power the box. I guess it depends on how your switches are setup. Ground could be used for power line connection but that's WiFi.
I’ve had my setup for 12 years without any problems , the lights turn on when I flick a switch that’s fitted on the wall, I turn a nob on the radio and music starts , as with the kettle once I’ve put water in I just press an on button ,,, all still working fine.... amazing really
joules99922 m ago

I’ve had my setup for 12 years without any problems , the lights turn on w …I’ve had my setup for 12 years without any problems , the lights turn on when I flick a switch that’s fitted on the wall, I turn a nob on the radio and music starts , as with the kettle once I’ve put water in I just press an on button ,,, all still working fine.... amazing really



And do you get up to change channels on the TV
mahmouddiaa1 h, 21 m ago

In mine I can see the wire but obviously not connected to the switch But …In mine I can see the wire but obviously not connected to the switch But apparently lots of people saying it is not working at all not sure about the exact details as I am not an expert But something related to “live only switch” and “no ground to power the sonoff” also the recommendation was that only a smart dimmer would be the only option in the UK as only needs small amount of current Dunno I am tempted to try but I just don’t get the “live switch” thingCheck this thread on AVforums


Had another look. Most uk light circuits don't have a neutral connection in the switch but in the rose. Digital light switches are always on but allow just enough power to run the switch but not enough to power the light.

So the circuit has to be made to use the switch.
Works with Yale Conexis which is vital as the Yale app and service is dog ****
bentles27 m ago

Works with Yale Conexis which is vital as the Yale app and service is dog …Works with Yale Conexis which is vital as the Yale app and service is dog ****


Ha ha, I thought it was just me. Still to this day I’ve only successfully got the app to unlock the door more than a handful of times. I bought the Samsung SmartThings hub as a result and I love it. Seems bulletproof now.
EN1GMA9 h, 9 m ago

Can I buy them ready to use without the soldering business?


You don't need to solder the sonoffs to flash them.
I held the pins in place while it flashed.
The Xiaomi sensors all work great with SmartThings I've got quite a few now
joules9995 h, 34 m ago

I’ve had my setup for 12 years without any problems , the lights turn on w …I’ve had my setup for 12 years without any problems , the lights turn on when I flick a switch that’s fitted on the wall, I turn a nob on the radio and music starts , as with the kettle once I’ve put water in I just press an on button ,,, all still working fine.... amazing really


What is this dark magic you talk of? Switches,lights ,music from a box? How have you managed to do this. Where is your lighted taper to a candle, Father at the piano while mother sings and the blackened kettle on the open hearth?
thesilversurfer200917 h, 24 m ago

Hi, can you explain how you turn the kettle on with the Sonoff switch …Hi, can you explain how you turn the kettle on with the Sonoff switch because most kettles normally have a physical button to turn on.Thanks.


It has to be a kettle with a push down switch on the back that stays pushed down when it's on the base then I've made a extension socket using a sonoff pow plugged the kettle into the socket then when the socket is turn on through the WiFi the kettle is switched on because the push down switch is already down.
EN1GMA20 h, 42 m ago

what is local LAN meaning how does it differ to the wifi normal set up? …what is local LAN meaning how does it differ to the wifi normal set up? relying on external servers is a pain and obviously can go anytime but the home assistant route just seems more for people who have a working programme knowledge.


Local LAN should work without internet on the yeelight RGB bulbs running the newer firmware there's an option to turn it on using there yeelight app Not mi-home, as for the sonoffs you can reflash with the tastota firmware then connect them to the lights took them above the ceiling rose in the floor space if they need reflash later it can be done over the air so you don't have to get it down and connect it to the computer all this is at your own risk and you should consult expert advice first (Disclaimer)

Home Assistant there a lot of advice on the web it can be cut and paste changing bits to fit your network mine is on a pi3 with Hass io I'm going to get another to practice on because I'm no expert it takes time I look at one thing at a time because if I looked at the whole thing it would be too much and I'd give up so I'd suggest lights first.
What would be the best alternative for similar pennies? Samsung doesn't exactly have the best track record on security.
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