Samsung smartthings @ Amazon for £139.99!!! original price £199.99
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Samsung smartthings @ Amazon for £139.99!!! original price £199.99

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Found 21st Apr
have a smart home with the samsung smartthings starter kit! Been wanting to get this for a while but found it too expensive. Original price is £199.99 but now reduced to £139.99 on Amazon!! grab it now while it lasts!!

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its been 139.99 for quite some time

Cheaper on ebay at least 10 quid

Lul

more botnet fodder

These are like electronic fuses they count down from a 100 and then your phone explodes.

Wouldnt pay more than £50 for this...I know it's never likely to be that price.

There are loads of ways to get similar results, using raspberry pi GPIO to detect sensors, using sonoff's to turn on or off lights and other devices (You can also flash the sonoff's with third party software to enable them to be used with something like openhab).

Anyway, there are guides on the internet...

kencol

Wouldnt pay more than £50 for this...I know it's never likely to be that … Wouldnt pay more than £50 for this...I know it's never likely to be that price.There are loads of ways to get similar results, using raspberry pi GPIO to detect sensors, using sonoff's to turn on or off lights and other devices (You can also flash the sonoff's with third party software to enable them to be used with something like openhab).Anyway, there are guides on the internet...


Wow, had never heard of Sonoff.

Going to order a couple.

callum84

Wow, had never heard of Sonoff.Going to order a couple.


They're only about a fiver (for basic model) and can be controlled by alexa via the welink skill (or I believe directly by alexa if you are able to flash third party software onto it.) I've just bought the TH version which you can connect a thermostat / humidistat to to trigger my bathroom fan when it is humid.

I put the basic model inside my ikea light fitting so it is controllable via the app and alexa..the light fitting takes three bulbs so would cost me at least £45 for hue bulbs, whereas this cost me a fiver.

kencol

They're only about a fiver (for basic model) and can be controlled by … They're only about a fiver (for basic model) and can be controlled by alexa via the welink skill (or I believe directly by alexa if you are able to flash third party software onto it.) I've just bought the TH version which you can connect a thermostat / humidistat to to trigger my bathroom fan when it is humid.I put the basic model inside my ikea light fitting so it is controllable via the app and alexa..the light fitting takes three bulbs so would cost me at least £45 for hue bulbs, whereas this cost me a fiver.


Are they reliable? Id be mounting in ceiling void so not very accessable. Could always wire so lightswitches overide Sonoff.

Seems a great price for a wifi controlled 2.2kw switch.

callum84

Are they reliable? Id be mounting in ceiling void so not very accessable. … Are they reliable? Id be mounting in ceiling void so not very accessable. Could always wire so lightswitches overide Sonoff.Seems a great price for a wifi controlled 2.2kw switch.


The sonoffs can be set to 'on', 'last state' or 'off' on power on...so clicking a light switch will override this if it's in your void.
Mine are pretty consistent, they're definitely worth the money.

kencol

The sonoffs can be set to 'on', 'last state' or 'off' on power on...so … The sonoffs can be set to 'on', 'last state' or 'off' on power on...so clicking a light switch will override this if it's in your void.Mine are pretty consistent, they're definitely worth the money.


Brilliant.

Cheers for the heads up!

callum84

Are they reliable? Id be mounting in ceiling void so not very accessable. … Are they reliable? Id be mounting in ceiling void so not very accessable. Could always wire so lightswitches overide Sonoff.Seems a great price for a wifi controlled 2.2kw switch.



If they are wifi then they will be expensive to run, z-wave/zigbee are lower power and so more suited to home automation tasks.

Don't rate the Samsung myself, Vera is better.

png666

If they are wifi then they will be expensive to run, z-wave/zigbee are … If they are wifi then they will be expensive to run, z-wave/zigbee are lower power and so more suited to home automation tasks.Don't rate the Samsung myself, Vera is better.


How much lower though? Had a look at scematic for Sonoff and theres not much to it, single digits anyway.

Did look z-wave but lack of device feedback/status put me off.
Edited by: "callum84" 21st Apr

kencol

They're only about a fiver (for basic model) and can be controlled by … They're only about a fiver (for basic model) and can be controlled by alexa via the welink skill (or I believe directly by alexa if you are able to flash third party software onto it.) I've just bought the TH version which you can connect a thermostat / humidistat to to trigger my bathroom fan when it is humid.I put the basic model inside my ikea light fitting so it is controllable via the app and alexa..the light fitting takes three bulbs so would cost me at least £45 for hue bulbs, whereas this cost me a fiver.


Wow... this sounds impressive especially at the price point - I've got a mix of lightwave and a few hue bulbs; I have some Lightwave relays but these might be easier to stash away and control

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ndk82

its been 139.99 for quite some time



​really? I've been monitoring it for some time and it's always been £199.99 until now or just recently.

Original Poster

lucyferror

Cheaper on ebay at least 10 quid



​really? it would be great if you provided a link. can't seem to find it. Thanks!

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kencol

Wouldnt pay more than £50 for this...I know it's never likely to be that … Wouldnt pay more than £50 for this...I know it's never likely to be that price.There are loads of ways to get similar results, using raspberry pi GPIO to detect sensors, using sonoff's to turn on or off lights and other devices (You can also flash the sonoff's with third party software to enable them to be used with something like openhab).Anyway, there are guides on the internet...



​​​similar but not the same results. while this is true, not everyone is able to do this. even if they could it would require alot of work to achieve this result compared to 'out of the box' products. not everyone with this ability can afford the time and effort for the diy solution. just saying...

ryuzaki091

similar but not the same results. while this is true, not everyone is … similar but not the same results. while this is true, not everyone is able to do this. even if they could it would require alot of work to achieve this result compared to 'out of the box' products. not everyone with this ability can afford the time and effort for the diy solution. just saying...


I have hue bulbs, and they dim, shih the sonoff doesn't, and iike you said, pretty much anyone can set hue up...it's not that the sonoff is complicated, but lots of people would be reluctant to disassemble their cling light to put this inline...but if you're willing to, and you don't require dimmingg, then these are what you want.

The smartthings 'sensors' are unjustly expensive, a pir is less than the price of a pint, and like you say, many wouldn't know where to start with a raspberry pi...if you're willing (and have the time) you can learn the basics and download python scripts from places like git hub to get it to detect and email you when there's movement, a door opens, the doorbell rings...
The pi has many GPIOs which can read the state of the door, doorbell or pir...if you can, jump in, it's far more rewarding to solve these problems yourself, it is a hobby, and it can be time consuming. Youtube has some great home automation videos, try Superhouse.tv

Sonoff sounds very interesting....so something I'll be looking into right now.

I've bought umpteen arduino/esp8266s with the intention of tinkering and automating various things, but time limits what I can do too...and then when I get the time to tinker and add something, by the time I get chance for round 2 I've forgotten a good 25% or more of what I learnt the previous time

These sound potentially ideal, it appears it has an eps8266 inside it, which explains its cheap price too.

The touch lightswitch looks perfect to use for existing lights where smart bulbs are not doable.....ok so if they're not dimmable (yet) but the on / off very useful....plus of course the alexa integration. Being esp based I'm guessing its all very customisable. Echo integration should fit in ideal with our usage too....hopefully can link it with other stuff too - eg a doorbell that could pause plex, flash the lights or whatever

The only thing being wifi based I guess, is I currently use a VM superdud which is lame and loses wifi connection....but this would justify me buying a new one

are all the Sonoff components moddable to have direct support with Echo? eg if I was to just buy some Touch light switches, link them directly without having to add a skill, or is it only certain units for now?

another question...whilst I'm watching/reading. With the sonoff power unit, I see you hold down for 5 seconds to begin pairing. In everyday normal use, can you press that power button to manually turn on/off devices? for times when have no internet/dead phone battery, etc - edit - no matter, I see later in the linked video by default it doesn't turn on/off though it can be set to should it be needed)

Edited by: "Midnight.Tboy" 22nd Apr

Midnight.Tboy

are all the Sonoff components moddable to have direct support with Echo? … are all the Sonoff components moddable to have direct support with Echo? eg if I was to just buy some Touch light switches, link them directly without having to add a skill, or is it only certain units for now?another question...whilst I'm watching/reading. With the sonoff power unit, I see you hold down for 5 seconds to begin pairing. In everyday normal use, can you press that power button to manually turn on/off devices? for times when have no internet/dead phone battery, etc - edit - no matter, I see later in the linked video by default it doesn't turn on/off though it can be set to should it be needed)



I believe you can FTDI something like Tasmota to it and it will be directly alexa controllable, certainly if you used something like tinkerman.cat/emu…66/ you can (Fauxmo for the ESP8266).
The pairing button is also an on / off toggle.
The wall plate ones; in UK wall switch wiring, there is no neutral wire, it's basically a live wire which is broken by the switch, so unless you can get a neutral to the switch outlet, then you may want to use the regular sonoff.
Have you seen the 'slampher'? (another option, same technology, also by Itead)

aah poop I'd just ordered a touch light from aliexpress a bit earlier too. I know nothing about lighting so guessing the touch is a no go. Will see if I can manage to cancel that

kencol

I believe you can FTDI something like Tasmota to it and it will be … I believe you can FTDI something like Tasmota to it and it will be directly alexa controllable, certainly if you used something like https://tinkerman.cat/emulate-wemo-device-esp8266/ you can (Fauxmo for the ESP8266).The pairing button is also an on / off toggle.The wall plate ones; in UK wall switch wiring, there is no neutral wire, it's basically a live wire which is broken by the switch, so unless you can get a neutral to the switch outlet, then you may want to use the regular sonoff.Have you seen the 'slampher'? (another option, same technology, also by Itead)


I agree with you kencol about SmartThings being overpriced even at £140 and also with the Sonoffs and openhab as I have 6 sonoff devices now and initially used them with openhab and Pii but it's just too fiddly and the devices don't look as nice.
so I flashed my Sonoffs and bought SmartThings about 3 weeks ago and it's far better in comparison.
and the sonoffs work great within SmartThings and I also ordered 3rd party door ,motion sensors & buttons from ali express dirt cheap.
the thing I hated when I used sonoffs officially was the command to enable devices...
Alexa ask we link to turn on room lamp ,
felt a idiot saying that now it's just
Alexa turn on room lamp ..
little things lol
Edited by: "stefromuk" 24th Apr

wasn't there official skillset support for Sonoffs just in the past week or 2 so don't have to do that now? Pretty sure I read that anyway

Midnight.Tboy

wasn't there official skillset support for Sonoffs just in the past week … wasn't there official skillset support for Sonoffs just in the past week or 2 so don't have to do that now? Pretty sure I read that anyway


yeah if you just want them to work with the e we link app and alexa there's a unofficial skill , its when you want to use them outside of there app they need flashing.

stefromuk

yeah if you just want them to work with the e we link app and alexa … yeah if you just want them to work with the e we link app and alexa there's a unofficial skill , its when you want to use them outside of there app they need flashing.


aah I got the wrong end of the stick then. I thought by them having official support now that it wouldn't need you to say "Alexa ask xxxx to .....".....unless that's around the corner perhaps.

So all the sonoffs can be reprogrammed to also work directly to the samsung smartthings.....interesting options. I wish there was a light switch replacement though

Midnight.Tboy

aah I got the wrong end of the stick then. I thought by them having … aah I got the wrong end of the stick then. I thought by them having official support now that it wouldn't need you to say "Alexa ask xxxx to .....".....unless that's around the corner perhaps.So all the sonoffs can be reprogrammed to also work directly to the samsung smartthings.....interesting options. I wish there was a light switch replacement though



​yeah there's no official skill yet as far as I know I think that's probably because the older ones aren't CE certified so can't officially use them.
although I believe their new 2017 versions are CE certified now so maybe a official support at one point.
they do a light switch that apparently works in the EU but not sure how good they are.
s.aliexpress.com/fqu…IBJ

stefromuk

I agree with you kencol about SmartThings being overpriced even at £140 … I agree with you kencol about SmartThings being overpriced even at £140 and also with the Sonoffs and openhab as I have 6 sonoff devices now and initially used them with openhab and Pii but it's just too fiddly and the devices don't look as nice.so I flashed my Sonoffs and bought SmartThings about 3 weeks ago and it's far better in comparison.and the sonoffs work great within SmartThings and I also ordered 3rd party door ,motion sensors & buttons from ali express dirt cheap.the thing I hated when I used sonoffs officially was the command to enable devices...Alexa ask we link to turn on room lamp ,felt a idiot saying that now it's just Alexa turn on room lamp ..little things lol


What did you flash them with, Tasmota?

kencol

What did you flash them with, Tasmota?


No it was a guy on the SmartThings community who created his own to work with SmartThings and yeah they work great.
community.smartthings.com/t/r…957

kencol

Wouldnt pay more than £50 for this...I know it's never likely to be that … Wouldnt pay more than £50 for this...I know it's never likely to be that price.There are loads of ways to get similar results, using raspberry pi GPIO to detect sensors, using sonoff's to turn on or off lights and other devices (You can also flash the sonoff's with third party software to enable them to be used with something like openhab).Anyway, there are guides on the internet...



Fantastic. Thanks for mentioning sonoff. I'd not heard of them but they are exactly what I was looking for when switching out all my light fittings. I have some hue bulbs and was then looking at smart switches but what I really wanted was inline devices that I could wire in directly. This sounds like just the thing, cheers!

chaymation

Fantastic. Thanks for mentioning sonoff. I'd not heard of them but they … Fantastic. Thanks for mentioning sonoff. I'd not heard of them but they are exactly what I was looking for when switching out all my light fittings. I have some hue bulbs and was then looking at smart switches but what I really wanted was inline devices that I could wire in directly. This sounds like just the thing, cheers!


Just remember that UK wall switches usually don't have a neutral (it's just a broken live) You can get around this by putting the sonoff in the ceiling, as there is a neutral there.
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