Samsung SmartThings Hub v2 £49.99 @ Amazon
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Samsung SmartThings Hub v2 £49.99 @ Amazon

£49.99£69.99 29% Amazon Deals
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Found 31st Oct
Was about to buy from maplin for 69.99 but they were out of stock. Set up an alert for amazon yesterday and got an email saying it had dropped to 64.99. Imagine my delight when it had dropped further to 49.99

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I will buy one but what is it for?

For a bit of an explanation:

This is a hub to automate your home, this is not so you don't have to get your fat ass off the sofa (Although it can do that - but so can Hue) simple activities are fairly easy for the novice, however if you are more technically minded then there is not much you can't do.

For example:

- My hall lights come on automatically when movement is detected, however they wont come on during the day as they are not needed, and if triggered after midnight they only come on to 10% to avoid bright lights.
- My living room lighting is also automated with movement, however if I start watching a film on Plex the main lights dim and the lamps come on.
- When I leave the house devices and lights are set to automatically turn off and the alarm auto arms.
- If I wanted to I could ask Alexa to turn on "romantic" and the lights dim / change colour and Barry White could start playing.

If you put in the time mostly anything is possible, it says above that only branded devices work.. which is not true, the community forum has an active set of people building code to make most things work. However the hub is limited to some pretty basic protocols zigbee and HTTP pretty much being the main ones, there is no bluetooth (there is a chip, but they haven't ever turned it on).

The platform only works when connected to the internet (apart from in an incredibly narrow scope), despite what the blurb says.. if your internet is down or slow then stuff will not work. The platform also has quite a significant number of on going issues, Hue bulbs have a popcorn effect, each bulb is triggered on 1 by 1 rather than all at the same time. Presence sensing is broken in the current IOS and generally presence is not 100% reliable. There have been updates recently that have not been sufficiently tested before being rolled out and caused a few issues (last instance relating to Hue lights not working properly).

My recommendation is that if you like tinkering with tech and have a basic understanding of coding then it's a good product, I love mine and I don't think there is a consumer platform in the UK comparable to it.. However I would like to move to an offline system such as OpenHab which requires very good technical knowledge.. Alternatively online free services such as IFTTT and Yonomi offer some automation opportunities without any spend..


Enjoy!
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I will buy one but what is it for?

The moisture sensor sounds interesting

Have some heat..

alu3558 m ago

The moisture sensor sounds interesting


Oh so many jokes, so few repeatable.

how do you set up alerts on amazon anyone?

This is a good price. I actually sold everything which came in my starter pack and just use the hub.

I'm really tempted but I think I'll wait for everything to become more universal so for example I can buy a 3 pack of smart bulbs and know they will be compatible

does it work with google home?

Gkay112 h, 4 m ago

I will buy one but what is it for?

It solves Rubik's cube

mbailey1 h, 41 m ago

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thanks

kkthomask48 m ago

does it work with google home?

Yeah

Inked6661 h, 42 m ago

I'm really tempted but I think I'll wait for everything to become more …I'm really tempted but I think I'll wait for everything to become more universal so for example I can buy a 3 pack of smart bulbs and know they will be compatible

SmartThings is probably the most compatible at the moment.
Hue,Tradfri,xiaomi's and other non branded zigbee ones

stefromuk1 h, 56 m ago

SmartThings is probably the most compatible at the …SmartThings is probably the most compatible at the moment.Hue,Tradfri,xiaomi's and other non branded zigbee ones

I know what you mean and I'm actually a bit of a Samsung fan, but it seems like you still need to use branded items with this.

I'm sure that as popularity grows on these you will start seeing ones that can be used with generic add ons and will probably be customisable

Gkay117 h, 8 m ago

I will buy one but what is it for?

So you buy it, put it in your living room and switch it on and all the smartest scientists from all over the world will gather together at your place as it is now their hub

Inked6664 h, 31 m ago

I know what you mean and I'm actually a bit of a Samsung fan, but it seems …I know what you mean and I'm actually a bit of a Samsung fan, but it seems like you still need to use branded items with this.I'm sure that as popularity grows on these you will start seeing ones that can be used with generic add ons and will probably be customisable


I think you missed that you don't need samsung branded devices to work.
The samsung hub will talk to standard zigbee and zwave devices, eg look at the posts on here for the xiaomi and heiman sensors.
It would replace my raspberry pi based home automation setup, except various people on here say that it really won't work offline. There is battery backup, and basic devices such as lights can be controlled, but the samsung falls down compared to a dedicated offline control setup.

mcek42 m ago

I think you missed that you don't need samsung branded devices to work.The …I think you missed that you don't need samsung branded devices to work.The samsung hub will talk to standard zigbee and zwave devices, eg look at the posts on here for the xiaomi and heiman sensors.It would replace my raspberry pi based home automation setup, except various people on here say that it really won't work offline. There is battery backup, and basic devices such as lights can be controlled, but the samsung falls down compared to a dedicated offline control setup.


So your commands are all relayed through a cloud service? Damn, that just put a damper on it for me...

Gkay1110 h, 26 m ago

I will buy one but what is it for?


When you have spent an absolute fortune replacing all the perfectly normal lightbulbs in your house with ones that can change colour if there was ever any good reason to do so - then you now have a "smart home".
This is a device that allows you to spend even more money controlling your pretty little lights. So that when you are away, and can't see what colour they are, you can get the colour to change. Or maybe it doesn't. Or maybe your partner is so honked-off with you goofing around that he/she has tossed the whole lot in the bin and put the proper lights back in.

You can also (according to the blurb) use this to "teach your house tricks". Though since I have never seen a maisonette riding a unicycle, or an upper-storey flat that can juggle, I have severe doubts just how "tricky" those would be.

Basically: just a gadget for controlling your other gadgets. But clearly that's only acceptable behaviour if you live alone. Which most of the people who buy this will do - for obvious reasons.
Edited by: "pete_l" 1st Nov

pete_l11 m ago

When you have spent an absolute fortune replacing all the perfectly normal …When you have spent an absolute fortune replacing all the perfectly normal lightbulbs in your house with ones that can change colour if there was ever any good reason to do so - then you now have a "smart home".This is a device that allows you to spend even more money controlling your pretty little lights. So that when you are away, and can't see what colour they are, you can get the colour to change. Or maybe it doesn't. Or maybe your partner is so honked-off with you goofing around that he/she has tossed the whole lot in the bin and put the proper lights back in.You can also (according to the blurb) use this to "teach your house tricks". Though since I have never seen a maisonette riding a unicycle, or an upper-storey flat that can juggle, I have severe doubts just how "tricky" those would be.Basically: just a gadget for controlling your other gadgets. But clearly that's only acceptable behaviour if you live alone. Which most of the people who buy this will do - for obvious reasons.

I hope I'm never so lazy that I refuse get off my a*se to turn my lights on

You don't need a hub to control smart light bulbs if they are controlled by a phone app. Ok, so the cloud service is the hub, and your phone is the control panel. The exception being bluetooth controlled bulbs, not so popular it seems.

But door sensors and plug controls are more useful in home automation for me. And having a local network control is more useful than a cloud-based service. Hence, a raspberry pi or old netbook, a spare router/old mobile for hotspot, and a ups is quite flexible. Zigbee is good for short range, zwave is good for a longer range, and add 433/868Mhz sensors/triggers will provide cheap control for simple on/off devices.

If samsung sort out the off-line functionality, this will be more flexible as well.

community.smartthings.com/t/o…4/5

Trust Computers also do a all-in-one hub, based on the Orvibo hub, but it seems more closed than the Samsung.
Edited by: "mcek" 1st Nov

For a bit of an explanation:

This is a hub to automate your home, this is not so you don't have to get your fat ass off the sofa (Although it can do that - but so can Hue) simple activities are fairly easy for the novice, however if you are more technically minded then there is not much you can't do.

For example:

- My hall lights come on automatically when movement is detected, however they wont come on during the day as they are not needed, and if triggered after midnight they only come on to 10% to avoid bright lights.
- My living room lighting is also automated with movement, however if I start watching a film on Plex the main lights dim and the lamps come on.
- When I leave the house devices and lights are set to automatically turn off and the alarm auto arms.
- If I wanted to I could ask Alexa to turn on "romantic" and the lights dim / change colour and Barry White could start playing.

If you put in the time mostly anything is possible, it says above that only branded devices work.. which is not true, the community forum has an active set of people building code to make most things work. However the hub is limited to some pretty basic protocols zigbee and HTTP pretty much being the main ones, there is no bluetooth (there is a chip, but they haven't ever turned it on).

The platform only works when connected to the internet (apart from in an incredibly narrow scope), despite what the blurb says.. if your internet is down or slow then stuff will not work. The platform also has quite a significant number of on going issues, Hue bulbs have a popcorn effect, each bulb is triggered on 1 by 1 rather than all at the same time. Presence sensing is broken in the current IOS and generally presence is not 100% reliable. There have been updates recently that have not been sufficiently tested before being rolled out and caused a few issues (last instance relating to Hue lights not working properly).

My recommendation is that if you like tinkering with tech and have a basic understanding of coding then it's a good product, I love mine and I don't think there is a consumer platform in the UK comparable to it.. However I would like to move to an offline system such as OpenHab which requires very good technical knowledge.. Alternatively online free services such as IFTTT and Yonomi offer some automation opportunities without any spend..


Enjoy!

XEntity1 h, 25 m ago

For a bit of an explanation:This is a hub to automate your home, this is …For a bit of an explanation:This is a hub to automate your home, this is not so you don't have to get your fat ass off the sofa (Although it can do that - but so can Hue) simple activities are fairly easy for the novice, however if you are more technically minded then there is not much you can't do.For example:- My hall lights come on automatically when movement is detected, however they wont come on during the day as they are not needed, and if triggered after midnight they only come on to 10% to avoid bright lights.- My living room lighting is also automated with movement, however if I start watching a film on Plex the main lights dim and the lamps come on.- When I leave the house devices and lights are set to automatically turn off and the alarm auto arms.- If I wanted to I could ask Alexa to turn on "romantic" and the lights dim / change colour and Barry White could start playing.If you put in the time mostly anything is possible, it says above that only branded devices work.. which is not true, the community forum has an active set of people building code to make most things work. However the hub is limited to some pretty basic protocols zigbee and HTTP pretty much being the main ones, there is no bluetooth (there is a chip, but they haven't ever turned it on).The platform only works when connected to the internet (apart from in an incredibly narrow scope), despite what the blurb says.. if your internet is down or slow then stuff will not work. The platform also has quite a significant number of on going issues, Hue bulbs have a popcorn effect, each bulb is triggered on 1 by 1 rather than all at the same time. Presence sensing is broken in the current IOS and generally presence is not 100% reliable. There have been updates recently that have not been sufficiently tested before being rolled out and caused a few issues (last instance relating to Hue lights not working properly).My recommendation is that if you like tinkering with tech and have a basic understanding of coding then it's a good product, I love mine and I don't think there is a consumer platform in the UK comparable to it.. However I would like to move to an offline system such as OpenHab which requires very good technical knowledge.. Alternatively online free services such as IFTTT and Yonomi offer some automation opportunities without any spend..Enjoy!



Good write up! Question though, what are you using alongside the hub to do these bits? ->
- My hall lights come on automatically when movement is detected, however they wont come on during the day as they are not needed, and if triggered after midnight they only come on to 10% to avoid bright lights.
- My living room lighting is also automated with movement, however if I start watching a film on Plex the main lights dim and the lamps come on.
- When I leave the house devices and lights are set to automatically turn off and the alarm auto arms.

@RFC1795 All my lighting is Hue based, but there are other alternatives, movement sensors are using the SmartThings movement and door (multi) sensors.. however other alternatives are also available.. I have purchased some 3rd party door/window sensors from a post on here, although not installed them yet.

Presence sensing is built in to the app on my phone and Plex can act as a trigger if you have Plex Pass and setup webhooks.. if you don't have Plex Pass then you will need to run a program on an always on windows/mac/linux PC/raspberry pi.

On the SmartThings side for functionality you install "Smart Apps" I am using a community app called PlexPlus (I wrote it) for the Plex lighting automation, for everything else I'm using a fully bespoke home automation app I also wrote, but this is not community supported as I don't have the time.. However there are official apps that support these things.. security is actually built in, so no additional app is required for standard functionality and Smart Lighting which is an official app provides the movement / time of day automated lighting.

If you are more techie then things like CoRE / WebCoRE community apps let you develop logic flows and with that you can pretty much achieve anything you want..

And if you are really techie then you can write your own code like I do, using "Groovy" which is basically Java with some tweaks and pretty easy to grasp with basic programming knowledge (I couldn't code in Java before this)

The community forum is very active and helpful and worth a look there and problems someoen is usually quick to answer..
Edited by: "XEntity" 1st Nov

Original Poster

Sorry folks...back up to £99.99
Edited by: "Bal" 2nd Nov

Bah I left it too late, wanted to get this as a christmas present

Original Poster

Guys this is back again at 49.99....grab it if you missed out last time
Edited by: "Bal" 15th Nov

Can anyone tell me how will this works with Hue Lighting? Does it have FULL control? Does it work with the Hue sensors etc, and control colours and brightness etc?

Basically, can I buy this (actually the 99quid kit...) and replace my hub with this?
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