Samsung SmartThings Starter Kit - £99.99 @ Maplin
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Samsung SmartThings Starter Kit - £99.99 @ Maplin

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Edited by:"DJDunk"Found 15th Nov
Cheapest I've seen this set. Just ordered for Click & Collect at my local store, but free delivery available too.

Includes:
  • SmartThings Hub
  • SmartThings Multi Sensor
  • SmartThings Motion Sensor
  • SmartThings Presence Sensor
  • SmartThings Power Outlet

FREE £10 voucher included as part of their Black Friday deals. Plus 4.4% Topcashback.

(Topcashback has tracked at £3.66, plus £3 current bonus - another £6.66 off)

Top comments

thedopeyone1 h, 52 m ago

Any advantage buying this over a Xiaomi gateway?

This would let you bring things from different manufacturers and protocols together into one place.

It's great for more advanced automation/control if you don't mind spending time on it, for example I have a fire tablet mounted on the side of my bedroom wardrobe and can control lights, check on doors, windows, motion etc,turn the heating off/on, don't need to touch my phone or start talking to Alexa/google at silly o'clock in the morning, it comes on when I approach it.

And advanced rules to automate things, so I don't even really need the above...

There's so much you can do with smartthings that you can't do with the Xiaomi, but to please the bashers - it all goes down (mostly) when the internet does, my life falls apart on the spot when that happens

The xiaomi's great if you're going to stick to their products and don't require anything too advanced, for example my mum would be happy with - front door opens = lamp flashes and notification on phone. That's all she would require so the Xiaomi would be perfect for that.

If you try this automation stuff you'll fall into one of 2 camps - 'wow, this is great, what else can I do, I'm sold on this' or 'This is crap, why's everyone praising it, I'm selling this'.

Also free £10 voucher
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Any advantage buying this over a Xiaomi gateway?

Also free £10 voucher
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thedopeyone26 m ago

Any advantage buying this over a Xiaomi gateway?


The support community for SmartThings is huge, so there's integration for many, many 'things'. Been using mine for a while now, in conjunction with Hue and Alexa. Bought another set for work too.

Same price here and Argos. Handy if you want it faster and aren't likely to shop at Maplins again any time soon.

Best price I've seen this for.
I bought mine when it was on offer at £139 but if snap this up if I didn't already have it.
Edited by: "stefromuk" 15th Nov

Prefer xioami cheaper and more functions

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Spikeywikey6 m ago

Prefer xioami cheaper and more functions


Not used it myself, what more functions does it have?

Out of stock in all my Argos stores so ordered from Mallon instead

hubless is the future

I'm happy to wait until then for most things

you can already get tp link smart bulbs, smart cameras, and smart plugs hubless with echo / google home integration

adamck1 h, 11 m ago

Also free £10 voucher [Image]



Be prepared to have to chase them for it...

Work with Google home?

wow this is a great price - I already have one but bought it for the things alone - and will sell the hub on ebay if I can find a buyer!

Always so tempted to buy this set but the reliability issues on their forums put me off it.

jamsa5941 m ago

Work with Google home?


Yes

Spikeywikey1 h, 24 m ago

Prefer xioami cheaper and more functions


I've not used it but from what I have read on the intergoogle I don't think you are right?

If you use the basic function of ST then perhaps you are correct, but if you install community smart apps then you are not, the idea of ST being that the platform is compatible with most other 3rd parties. (Happy to be proven wrong though)

Also please see my post on another ST thread if you don't know what this is:


hotukdeals.com/com…292
Edited by: "XEntity" 15th Nov

soton267 m ago

Always so tempted to buy this set but the reliability issues on their …Always so tempted to buy this set but the reliability issues on their forums put me off it.


I wouldn't be too put off, the US servers have more issues than ours.. it's not perfect but providing your broadband connection is good then mostly it's fine..

soton2610 m ago

Always so tempted to buy this set but the reliability issues on their …Always so tempted to buy this set but the reliability issues on their forums put me off it.


personally I've never had any issues with reliability, though I've only had it for ~6 months so I don't have much to go by. However I have seen numerous people online saying it can be flaky and thus shouldn't be used as your primary security sysem. However, I live in a rented house so I can't fit my own system, and I had nothing before, so it's better than nothing!

thedopeyone1 h, 52 m ago

Any advantage buying this over a Xiaomi gateway?

This would let you bring things from different manufacturers and protocols together into one place.

It's great for more advanced automation/control if you don't mind spending time on it, for example I have a fire tablet mounted on the side of my bedroom wardrobe and can control lights, check on doors, windows, motion etc,turn the heating off/on, don't need to touch my phone or start talking to Alexa/google at silly o'clock in the morning, it comes on when I approach it.

And advanced rules to automate things, so I don't even really need the above...

There's so much you can do with smartthings that you can't do with the Xiaomi, but to please the bashers - it all goes down (mostly) when the internet does, my life falls apart on the spot when that happens

The xiaomi's great if you're going to stick to their products and don't require anything too advanced, for example my mum would be happy with - front door opens = lamp flashes and notification on phone. That's all she would require so the Xiaomi would be perfect for that.

If you try this automation stuff you'll fall into one of 2 camps - 'wow, this is great, what else can I do, I'm sold on this' or 'This is crap, why's everyone praising it, I'm selling this'.

What type of lights work with this? Can this control hue bulbs so I don't have to buy a separate hub?

stainless773 m ago

What type of lights work with this? Can this control hue bulbs so I don't …What type of lights work with this? Can this control hue bulbs so I don't have to buy a separate hub?


Yes you can pair Hue bulbs directly and many other vendors too..

I quick search on their community forum will return compatible devices, some will require installation of custom device types, but is really not that complicated.

community.smartthings.com/

These are great if you don't mind doing a little tinkering in the smartthings IDE, I have several 'things' integrated with mine; Ikea TRADFRI bulbs, Xiaomi Motion/Contact/Temp/Humidity/Moisture sensors, Sonos, Blink Cameras, Google Home... At £99 this is a bargain. I'm actually after some extra power outlets, hopefully there will be some deals on those.

I have reserved the hub at £49.99 not sure if the student discount is still on?,

thedopeyone2 h, 19 m ago

Any advantage buying this over a Xiaomi gateway?

Yes, smartthings works with any zigbee/zwave or wifi device xiaomi is a closed zigbee which can break such as the latest app update that has stopped the defang cameras working, they will fix it eventually but not ideal. Also most of the Xiaomi app is in chinese, even the translated sections and also time stamps wrong. Smartthings happily play with most of the very cheap xiaomi smart devices eg motion sensor, door/window sensor, buttons, temp, moisture etc so bring together the best of both worlds, however the devices can't be connected to both at the same time so you have to choose which way you want each device to communicate with.

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Guess OOS now

Can still stock check local store though if you a Maplin near you.
Edited by: "BraveSirRobin" 15th Nov

This is a very good price.As to what you can use it for...it is very flexible but to get the most out of it you will need to copy and paste programming code and spend some time getting your head around it as it is not that straightforward. Very helpful community online but you need to have a bit of interest unless you just want to stick to the basics. Also alot of additional switching and relays etc is expensive at £50 each and requires you getting into your electrical wiring but at its basic level you can plug and play some simple stuff.
If you are interestes in this concept then this is very good and very cheap but if you want a dead simple plug and play home automation you probably nees to wait 5 years more

XEntity54 m ago

Yes you can pair Hue bulbs directly and many other vendors too..I quick …Yes you can pair Hue bulbs directly and many other vendors too..I quick search on their community forum will return compatible devices, some will require installation of custom device types, but is really not that complicated.https://community.smartthings.com/

Are you sure you can pair directly?
I've got SmartThings but not got hue but from reading posts in the community forum they say you still need the hue hub.

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stefromuk25 m ago

Are you sure you can pair directly?I've got SmartThings but not got hue …Are you sure you can pair directly?I've got SmartThings but not got hue but from reading posts in the community forum they say you still need the hue hub.


I've seen the Hue Lux directly connected ('Zigbee Hue Lux Bulb' handler), but nothing but hassle with others. The Hue hub is cheap and well worth it for simplicity.

Don't forget TCB is doing £3 cash back for order over £40 today only
Activate it first before make the purchase

stefromuk36 m ago

Are you sure you can pair directly?I've got SmartThings but not got hue …Are you sure you can pair directly?I've got SmartThings but not got hue but from reading posts in the community forum they say you still need the hue hub.


So... I'm using with the Hue hub, without this you lose other features of hue such as effects and changing to the music and setting up scenes etc..

Also officially this is how you are supposed to use Hue bulbs with ST..

However this thread goes in to more detail of how you can link directly.. if you scroll to the bottom (Sept 19th - JD Roberts) this says that you need to unlink the bulbs from the paired devices to work..

community.smartthings.com/t/h…323

I would say that it's not ideal though and considering you can get a hub 2nd hand off ebay for no money.. just get a V1 hub, or a V2 kit! (V2 only adds home kit)

Please however be aware, some people (including me) are getting a popcorn effect with multiple Hue bulbs (details here):

community.smartthings.com/t/h…888

EDIT:

Thread talking about other bulbs available in the UK (A little out of date):

community.smartthings.com/t/u…/18

Or someone has created a device type for the new Ikea smart bulbs: (You will need to copy and paste some code in to ST to get this working, but a basic technical knowledge and willingness should be fine)

community.smartthings.com/t/u…394
Edited by: "XEntity" 15th Nov

Such a shame I don't have nus card to use in-store for 10% off

NUS 10% discount and TCB have 4% for in store cashback making it under £90!

Do you need this if you have a google home or amazon hub?

What else does it bring to the table for a newbie in home automation?

Words of two syllables would help

My house has really thick walls so not all of the devices would be able to see the hub directly but I have WiFi throughout. Do the devices connect to the hub via the WiFi or do they need to be in reach of the hub directly?

what i don't like about Hue bulbs (apart from high cost) are
a) you're kind of limited to the bulb design. What if you have a chandelier or other fancy rose light fitting?
b) assuming I've understood it correctly, the wall switch for the light always has to be in the On position to do anything remotely with the lights. So if i hit the wall switch on the way out to turn the light off, I cant remotely turn the light on from my phone.

Can the ST hub change that with any additional (inexpensive) kit such as compatible wall plates?

wow! cracking price. i was one of the first uk adopters of st. paid £199. on friday we get a major update in that st will allow localisation. so it gives the ability to function when the internet is down.

they keep improving it, making the sensors more efficient in terms of reliability and battery life
cracking buy and lots of fun setting up triggers etc!

Going to pick mine up tomorrow, do these work with ikeas tradfri bulbs ?

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Longy1 h, 39 m ago

My house has really thick walls so not all of the devices would be able to …My house has really thick walls so not all of the devices would be able to see the hub directly but I have WiFi throughout. Do the devices connect to the hub via the WiFi or do they need to be in reach of the hub directly?


ZigBee and Z-Wave are mesh networks, so effectively the devices connect to each other. Provided at least one can reach the hub, then the rest just need to be in proximity of each other.

I bought one instore, used my NUS card for 10% off and received a £10 voucher for use from 1st December . Worth noting that I had to ask about this in-store, for some reason they were not on display, the assistant went through the back for it. I’d checked before I went and in, online said 1 in stock. Checked again after purchase and it still shows as 1 in stock. Anyhooo... I’ve paired all the ‘things’ to it, and am sitting trying to figure out why I’ve actually bought it lol, no fun factor yet as it’s not “doing” anything as I’ve no bulbs or other appliances to try it out on. I’ve used the plug to turn my phone charger on and off but other than that.... got my echo and tp link plug arriving tomorrow

Is this any good with HomeBridge?
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