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Dynamic Crystal Colour
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Got this TV, Excellent.
I think you should credit ilc14 for the deal.
Not a true 10 bit panel. This is 8 bit + FRC.
cutthroat_jake12/10/2018 07:28

Not a true 10 bit panel. This is 8 bit + FRC.


It’s actually a downgrade from last year’s model, the mu6400 was a better tv.
I have this too, Superb TV
supasta12/10/2018 07:45

It’s actually a downgrade from last year’s model, the mu6400 was a better t …It’s actually a downgrade from last year’s model, the mu6400 was a better tv.


In what way?
Smadmad29 m ago

In what way?


Here is a good review:

Its the 7100 but highlites the problems with this year's models.
Anyone know of any deals on Samsung 32'' smart TV's?
cutthroat_jake12/10/2018 07:28

Not a true 10 bit panel. This is 8 bit + FRC.



But if it can still display 10bit colour (regardless of the process) what's the difference?
paulj4814 m ago

But if it can still display 10bit colour (regardless of the process) …But if it can still display 10bit colour (regardless of the process) what's the difference?


Colour Range.
paulj4812/10/2018 09:19

But if it can still display 10bit colour (regardless of the process) …But if it can still display 10bit colour (regardless of the process) what's the difference?


With 8 bit+FRC, the full range of 10 bit colours are being "faked".
FRC is a type of dithering to approximate the extra colors.
Basically it means you flash between two colors on opposite sides of the color you're trying to approximate. Then to the human eye it sort of blends together to the right colour, but it is an imperfect solution. Certainly 8-bit+FRC is closer in quality to basic 8-bit than to real 10-bit color. That said, 8-bit color alone is already pretty good, and FRC will generally improve on that a little further.
However, for HDR 10+ content, you need a 10 bit panel to display the true range of colours.
cutthroat_jake12/10/2018 09:37

With 8 bit+FRC, the full range of 10 bit colours are being "faked".FRC is …With 8 bit+FRC, the full range of 10 bit colours are being "faked".FRC is a type of dithering to approximate the extra colors.Basically it means you flash between two colors on opposite sides of the color you're trying to approximate. Then to the human eye it sort of blends together to the right colour, but it is an imperfect solution. Certainly 8-bit+FRC is closer in quality to basic 8-bit than to real 10-bit color. That said, 8-bit color alone is already pretty good, and FRC will generally improve on that a little further.However, for HDR 10+ content, you need a 10 bit panel to display the true range of colours.



And you think you can really see the difference between 8bit + FRC and 10 bit with a moving image on a £400 TV? serious question by the way.
paulj4812/10/2018 09:46

And you think you can really see the difference between 8bit + FRC and 10 …And you think you can really see the difference between 8bit + FRC and 10 bit with a moving image on a £400 TV? serious question by the way.


To quote one of the enthusiasts from AV Forums:
"Side by side from a high quality HDR source, yes you can easily tell the difference"
Why are 10 bit panels being discussed on a TV without local dimming. A peak brightness that isnt high enough for HDR and costs £404
Edited by: "Smadmad" 12th Oct 2018
cutthroat_jake9 m ago

To quote one of the enthusiasts from AV Forums:"Side by side from a high …To quote one of the enthusiasts from AV Forums:"Side by side from a high quality HDR source, yes you can easily tell the difference"



and I wonder the price of each of these displays they comment on?

Jake, as you where making the comment I presumed it was you who knew the answer rather than quote some unknown random from another forum.

For £400 I bet most people on here wouldn't bother if it had a 'fake' 10bit panel.
Just been on Live Chat with them trying to price match JL for the 5 year guarantee before taking the code into account. Very rude guy called Chris was no help. Didn't even know about the code. May try calling in a bit. Would bite at the 65NU7400 for 850 with 5 years warranty.
Brought this from currys for £500 last month as my current tv broke.

Main issue is the ps4 pro. The tv and ps4 do a handshake to work out if it should be using hdr. When this happens the screen will go black for a few seconds. Its very annoying and happens mid game. I get it once every 2-3 nights.

The other issue is the viewing angle the closer you are to 45 degrees the whiter the picture appears.

Stand legs are also very long.

Overall a excellent picture but wouldnt recommend if you have a ps4 pro. Issue doesnt effect the xbox one x
Edited by: "JokerFan" 12th Oct 2018
For £400 you should clearly get an 8K OLED 15 bit HDR PRO PROOOO TV with an inbuilt PS4 Pro and Xbox One X and a 21.1 surround sound system.

This is based on other comments in this thread
JokerFan1 h, 59 m ago

Brought this from currys for £500 last month as my current tv broke.Main …Brought this from currys for £500 last month as my current tv broke.Main issue is the ps4 pro. The tv and ps4 do a handshake to work out if it should be using hdr. When this happens the screen will go black for a few seconds. Its very annoying and happens mid game. I get it once every 2-3 nights.The other issue is the viewing angle the closer you are to 45 degrees the whiter the picture appears.Stand legs are also very long.Overall a excellent picture but wouldnt recommend if you have a ps4 pro. Issue doesnt effect the xbox one x


I have the same issue with my 6400 & the PS Pro, can get very annoying, especially when in the middle of a game.
JokerFan12/10/2018 11:14

Brought this from currys for £500 last month as my current tv broke.Main …Brought this from currys for £500 last month as my current tv broke.Main issue is the ps4 pro. The tv and ps4 do a handshake to work out if it should be using hdr. When this happens the screen will go black for a few seconds. Its very annoying and happens mid game. I get it once every 2-3 nights.The other issue is the viewing angle the closer you are to 45 degrees the whiter the picture appears.Stand legs are also very long.Overall a excellent picture but wouldnt recommend if you have a ps4 pro. Issue doesnt effect the xbox one x



I have this tv and PS4 pro and have this exact issue, I thought it may have been a auto black level or something like that. I’m guessing there isn’t a way to resolve it ?
Smadmad12/10/2018 09:56

Why are 10 bit panels being discussed on a TV without local dimming. A …Why are 10 bit panels being discussed on a TV without local dimming. A peak brightness that isnt high enough for HDR and costs £404


I guess it's because, for not a huge amount more money (£157.50), you can get a 49" with local dimming and a true 10 bit panel.
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cutthroat_jake12/10/2018 14:28

I guess it's because, for not a huge amount more money (£157.50), you can …I guess it's because, for not a huge amount more money (£157.50), you can get a 49" with local dimming and a true 10 bit panel.https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lg-49sk8000p-49-super-uhd-tv-for-56160-delivered-from-crampton-moore-using-code-3077213?pprmrkntfctnsrd=99856359


You like a cut and paste
From the review of said LG

"Local dimming performance is poor. This is due to the way local dimming is performed on this TV. The zones are vertical and thus it can not work effectively with images that interchange bright dark areas vertically."

Local dimming rated 1.5/10
Taken from rtings.com.

Along with a peak brightness of 523nits. So having a 10bit panel is irrelevant.
Edited by: "Smadmad" 12th Oct 2018
Bikerdanny1 h, 24 m ago

I have this tv and PS4 pro and have this exact issue, I thought it may …I have this tv and PS4 pro and have this exact issue, I thought it may have been a auto black level or something like that. I’m guessing there isn’t a way to resolve it ?


I couldnt find a way. Google gave a few different settings to try on both the tv and console but nothing worked for me.

Seems it was a common issue in the early days of the pro but now its mostly just samsung tvs and one other but cant recall which.

I believe it was the game mode that the tv changes to when it detects a signal which supports hdr. I forced the tv to always enable game mode on the ps4 hdmi connection but it still happens so not convinced thats the only cause. It did get less frequent though.
Edited by: "JokerFan" 12th Oct 2018
cutthroat_jake12/10/2018 14:28

I guess it's because, for not a huge amount more money (£157.50), you can …I guess it's because, for not a huge amount more money (£157.50), you can get a 49" with local dimming and a true 10 bit panel.https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lg-49sk8000p-49-super-uhd-tv-for-56160-delivered-from-crampton-moore-using-code-3077213?pprmrkntfctnsrd=99856359


That offers not on now so it’s £275 more for a different male andsize of TV so a pretty pointless remark really.
Edited by: "paulj48" 12th Oct 2018
Smadmad12/10/2018 14:35

You like a cut and pasteFrom the review of said LG"Local dimming …You like a cut and pasteFrom the review of said LG"Local dimming performance is poor. This is due to the way local dimming is performed on this TV. The zones are vertical and thus it can not work effectively with images that interchange bright dark areas vertically."Local dimming rated 1.5/10Taken from rtings.com.Along with a peak brightness of 523nits. So having a 10bit panel is irrelevant.


Agreed, the local dimming method in the LG is flawed.
However, regarding peak brightness, the 1,000 nit standard is only acheived by a select few, much higher priced TVs. 523 nits is very respectable in a 49" TV for under £600!
The Samsung TV in this thread will be lucky to make 350 nits.
All things are relative.
paulj4812th Oct 2018

That offers not on now so it’s £275 more for a different male andsize of T …That offers not on now so it’s £275 more for a different male andsize of TV so a pretty pointless remark really.


Did you even read the post?
The deal is most certainly still on....
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cutthroat_jake1 h, 14 m ago

Agreed, the local dimming method in the LG is flawed.However, regarding …Agreed, the local dimming method in the LG is flawed.However, regarding peak brightness, the 1,000 nit standard is only acheived by a select few, much higher priced TVs. 523 nits is very respectable in a 49" TV for under £600! The Samsung TV in this thread will be lucky to make 350 nits.All things are relative.


So the fact the LG has a low peak brightness makes the 10bit panel argument pointless.
Yes a select few hit 1000 nits. OLEDS for example won't but they don't need to.
Now £422 with code. I could be wrong though.
cutthroat_jake12th Oct

To quote one of the enthusiasts from AV Forums:"Side by side from a high …To quote one of the enthusiasts from AV Forums:"Side by side from a high quality HDR source, yes you can easily tell the difference"


so that's a no then
I got to say, I bought this yesterday and I'm really impressed with it. I was expecting a lot worse for the price. The best part is it has a VA panel whereas most televisions at this size have IPS. Not so good for viewing angles but much better contrast and black levels if you are sitting in front of it rather than at the side. I have an IPS for 4 years which drove me nuts as you couldn't see anything in dark scenes.
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