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Sandisk 2gb Sansa Clip+ MP3 Player black £19.99 @ Amazon
Sandisk 2gb Sansa Clip+ MP3 Player black £19.99 @ Amazon

Sandisk 2gb Sansa Clip+ MP3 Player black £19.99 @ Amazon

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Been Looking for one of these for some time seems a great price.

Product Features

* Supports MP3 WMA secure WMA Audible Ogg Vorbis FLAC plus audio books and podcasts
* Expandable microSD and microSDHC memory card slot grows with your music library and easily loads slotRadio or slotMusic cards
* Digital FM tuner with 40 presets for listening to sports your favorite music station or tuning in at the gym
* Long-life rechargeable battery with up to 15 hours of continuous playback
* Built-in microphone to record your thoughts on the go

* Expandable microSD or microSDHC memory card slot
* Ready for slotRadio and slotMusic cards
* Built-in clip for easy carrying
* Digital FM tuner
* Built in voice recorder

Technical Details

Great audio quality in MP3, WMA, secure WMA, Ogg Vorbis, and FLAC formats, plus audio books
Rechargeable battery lasts up to 15 hours
Hi-speed USB 2.0 port for fast and easy transfer of files
Solid State Memory For Skip Free Playback
Available in 2GB, 4GB, and 8GB* capacities
Compatibility: Windows applications, Does not work with AppleMac applications.

42 Comments

Thanks. I'm looking at this from Aldi. It's £10 more and 8gb. It's for my kids to listen to songs on and audio books on. I'm not sure what I'm looking for to be honest. Cheap and robust maybe?

Looks good - thank you.

Same at Currys/Dixons/PCWorld. Also for the more patient, the 8Gb version is £24.95 delivered from those sites from time to time (do search on Sansa). Was in stock this morning (before 9am) and managed to snag one for self last week at that price. The Aldi price is good too though. Great choice for audio books.
Few threads on here about routine to set up when arrives eg. not selecting Europe as location so EEC volume limitation doesn't come into force; setting USB mode to MSC might be necessary for your PC to see it; also info about updating firmware or even installing the alternative Rockbox firmware if you're more ambitious.

Edit. Oops. Just realised Aldi offer is not for Sansa Clip+ That looks well specified but not qualified to judge. I went for the Sansa 'cos I wanted the ablility to play flac files.
Edited by: "chrisjackson" 16th Aug 2010



flac files? ahem?

ok have googled and now know what a flac file is. How common are they though?

plaquey

ok have googled and now know what a flac file is. How common are they … ok have googled and now know what a flac file is. How common are they though?



If by 'common' you mean how available for download from Amazon and ITunes and the like, well they're not. They are lossless formats and much larger in size than regular lossy formats like MP3 and AAC, so would take a lot of downloading if available. Many music rippers (such as my favourite, Mediamonkey) can rip in FLAC from your own CDs, which IMO is the only way to go for computer based music \ Hifi system. I bought a Clip+ specifically for its sound quality and ability to play FLAC.

plaquey

ok have googled and now know what a flac file is. How common are they … ok have googled and now know what a flac file is. How common are they though?


Same as Pokey (except use EAC for ripping; not sure though I'd want to go through rigmarole of setting it up as did before...)
The Aldi player does pictures and movies that the Sansa doesn't. Its possible disadvantages are that it's presumably bigger and heavier and a bit of an unknown as regards quality control. But if you have an Aldi locally maybe returning wouldn't be such an issue if it disappointed.
I was surprised a few weeks ago to see that a Samsung 16GB player was going on offer for about £40 from several places. Search for "Samsung MP3-Player R0 16GB" at Amazon for player which is £124 now but one of customers' feedback indicates was under £50 (from HughesDirect I recall).
Like I say no expert but wonder how common these deals are and whether maybe for your budget you could pick up a nice marque player.

Cheers Pokey for the Mediamonkey tip will give it a go. Out of interest how much larger are FLAC files against MP3?

Original Poster

Loopie Have a look here it has an in depth comparison of the format sizes:

bobulous.org.uk/mis…tml

Bought the 8gb model in December. Music quality is very good with a decent pair of earphones. Big bonus for me is that the software makes special provision for podcasts and audiobooks, keeping them separate from your music.. For example, it will resume an audiobook or a podcast where you left off. I also use it late evenings for listening to the daily archers podcast (sad i know) - it even has a sleep timer for if you happen to doze off. Factor in a microsd slot for expandibility (8Gb microsd costs approx a tenner) and that the player incorporates the microsd content into the listings and you have a great little package. Highly recommended.

what's the best price on a 4gb or 8gb?
i can see £37 at Amazon but i'm pretty sure that's just gone up from £32..

if you don't know what FLAC is you don't need it. i know what it is and can't be bothered with it.

picture is of course wrong.
Edited by: "Smiff" 16th Aug 2010

Rockbox this baby to unlock more features and that amazing EQ features!

Flac is overkill imo for portable players, but very useful for archiving your CD's, with my ears which have been battered with loud volume music in the past I can hardly tell the difference between Flac & 320kbps on a portable player.
Edited by: "exStudent" 16th Aug 2010

Brilliant players.
NB: Pic is of older model. The Clip+ has a micro SD card slot.
Plays FLACs!
Proven superior sound quality to iPods (excepting the first generations).
Buy this and a £20 16GB micro SD card and you're laughing.

Well worth twenty quid but even better was the deal a while back in Dixons - £29.97 for the 8GB model. I was lucky to get one. ;-) /smug

Edited by: "piginabox" 16th Aug 2010

Better than ipod,s by a mile ...Hot!

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Better than ipod,s by a mile ...Hot!


Rep added!

Link

8GB £9.99 micro SD card
Edited by: "piginabox" 16th Aug 2010

Best to only have a 2gb model IMHO, the screen is small, scrolling through large playlists would be annoying. Best to keep very little on the player itself and a pocketful of memory cards with a different genre on each.

I bought this a few months back from Curry's. I later bought a micro SD card.

This is a very good value item ,works great.

Rubisco

Best to only have a 2gb model IMHO, the screen is small, scrolling … Best to only have a 2gb model IMHO, the screen is small, scrolling through large playlists would be annoying. Best to keep very little on the player itself and a pocketful of memory cards with a different genre on each.



Not a problem if you're playing FLACs with it.

Get one of these and an 8GB microSD for £10 or, better yet, a 16GB one for £20 and you have a decent-sized player for not much money.

For a long-winded explanation of the advantages of FLAC, read on...

FLAC is the best format if you are ripping your CDs to your PC and don't want to ever have to repeat that time-consuming process. This is because FLAC is lossless, meaning it makes an exact copy of the music. Lossy codecs (e.g. mp3 or Apple m4a or Windows wma) actually lose some of the information contained in the music, but they try to lose stuff that you can't hear. This is probably acceptable if you only intend to use mp3s forever (or only m4a, or only wma). But if you buy a new player in the future that doesn't support mp3, then you try and convert all your mp3s to the new format, you end up with really crap quality music. Converting from one lossy format to another (known as transcoding) results in awful quality.

However, if you have a perfect FLAC copy, you can convert it to any format you like and because FLAC is lossless, it will sound just as good as if you had ripped the CD to that format in the first place. With a few clicks you can convert your entire library of FLAC music (100s or 1000s of CDs) to whatever format you want (your PC will chug away for a good few hours though, but you can do other stuff while it works). You keep the FLAC files and have a set of corresponding files in the new format.

Lots of people first experience this problem if they have been using an iPod with iTunes which rips to m4a by default. Then if they buy a new non-iPod mp3 player, it can't play their music. They can convert it (crap quality) or re-rip everything to mp3 (very time consuming). So if you want to only have to rip once, rip to FLAC (or another lossless codec, but FLAC is the best).

Another important factor in avoiding ever having to rip your CD collection again, is to make a backup. At the very least this means keeping a copy on at least two separate hard drives. That way, if one hard drive breaks you don't have to go and rip 100s of CDs again.

Now, as for actually putting FLAC on a portable player. If you encode your mp3s with the V0 quality setting using the LAME encoder, then 95%+ of people can't actually tell the difference between the mp3 and the original CD (or a FLAC copy) even with amazing headphones. Bearing in mind FLAC is about 4-5 times the size as V0 mp3, FLAC is a waste of space on a portable player for most people. It is handy though if you haven't already converted something just to be able to plonk it on your Clip+ and go.

In terms of ripping software, I recommend Exact Audio Copy. It's quite tricky to set up though.
In terms of conversion and tagging and stuff like that, I recommend foobar 2000.
You also need to install FLAC and LAME.
All of these programs are free.

Anyway I hope that wasn't too boring.

I'm not going to use FLAC, too big - but isn't OGG Vorbis better quality than MP3 for the same filesize?

(also - tempted to put Rockbox on this - any feedback on it?)
Edited by: "Ashe" 16th Aug 2010

Got one of these off ebay. They have them for £14.99 brand new. Not plugging Ebay sellers but this is an awesome mp3 player and radio. Wherever you buy it from you will be happy with it.

piratetaff

Got one of these off ebay. They have them for £14.99 brand new. Not … Got one of these off ebay. They have them for £14.99 brand new. Not plugging Ebay sellers but this is an awesome mp3 player and radio. Wherever you buy it from you will be happy with it.

Not the Clip+ though, just the original Clip.. at least from what I can see. The added MicroSD slot on the Clip+ would be very useful.

So anyone know the maximum size sd card these take?

Only asking because I read 16gb somewhere and 32gb somewhere else...

I've ordered anyhow - Thanks OP!

Ashe

I'm not going to use FLAC, too big - but isn't OGG Vorbis better quality … I'm not going to use FLAC, too big - but isn't OGG Vorbis better quality than MP3 for the same filesize?

Yes I believe OGG is better, but it's not very widely supported meaning if you used a different portable player, it probably wouldn't play your files. So rip to FLAC then convert to OGG (leaving the original FLACs intact). Hard drives are cheap, much cheaper than most peoples' time.

They can take up to 32gb cards but it takes ages to load the database apparently when putting a card that big in.

The Sansa Clip + forum on the SanDisk site is very good for tips by the way :

forums.sandisk.com/san…lus

I got one of the 8gb ones off eBay a while back to replace a defunct Rio Karma, and it's just as good and copes with gapless playback. Good battery life too. Run it with a pair of Seinheiser headphones.

No silly software needed to transfer files either - just drag & drop, or you can use Windown Media Player if you prefer.

alasrati

Get one of these and an 8GB microSD for £10 or, better yet, a 16GB one … Get one of these and an 8GB microSD for £10 or, better yet, a 16GB one for £20 and you have a decent-sized player for not much money.For a long-winded explanation of the advantages of FLAC, read on...FLAC is the best format if you are ripping your CDs to your PC and don't want to ever have to repeat that time-consuming process. This is because FLAC is lossless, meaning it makes an exact copy of the music. Lossy codecs (e.g. mp3 or Apple m4a or Windows wma) actually lose some of the information contained in the music, but they try to lose stuff that you can't hear. This is probably acceptable if you only intend to use mp3s forever (or only m4a, or only wma). But if you buy a new player in the future that doesn't support mp3, then you try and convert all your mp3s to the new format, you end up with really crap quality music. Converting from one lossy format to another (known as transcoding) results in awful quality.However, if you have a perfect FLAC copy, you can convert it to any format you like and because FLAC is lossless, it will sound just as good as if you had ripped the CD to that format in the first place. With a few clicks you can convert your entire library of FLAC music (100s or 1000s of CDs) to whatever format you want (your PC will chug away for a good few hours though, but you can do other stuff while it works). You keep the FLAC files and have a set of corresponding files in the new format.Lots of people first experience this problem if they have been using an iPod with iTunes which rips to m4a by default. Then if they buy a new non-iPod mp3 player, it can't play their music. They can convert it (crap quality) or re-rip everything to mp3 (very time consuming). So if you want to only have to rip once, rip to FLAC (or another lossless codec, but FLAC is the best).Another important factor in avoiding ever having to rip your CD collection again, is to make a backup. At the very least this means keeping a copy on at least two separate hard drives. That way, if one hard drive breaks you don't have to go and rip 100s of CDs again.Now, as for actually putting FLAC on a portable player. If you encode your mp3s with the V0 quality setting using the LAME encoder, then 95%+ of people can't actually tell the difference between the mp3 and the original CD (or a FLAC copy) even with amazing headphones. Bearing in mind FLAC is about 4-5 times the size as V0 mp3, FLAC is a waste of space on a portable player for most people. It is handy though if you haven't already converted something just to be able to plonk it on your Clip+ and go.In terms of ripping software, I recommend Exact Audio Copy. It's quite tricky to set up though.In terms of conversion and tagging and stuff like that, I recommend foobar 2000.You also need to install FLAC and LAME.All of these programs are free.Anyway I hope that wasn't too boring.



I couldn't have summed it up better.

Expired - now £30.47 :-(

sodafarl

Expired - now £30.47 :-(


It's not expired, just not in stock (check the buying choices at the right).

Cheers, ordered

1-4 weeks if you want it for £20. It seems to pop up on Currys at £20 too quite often so you could order from Amazon then cancel if you find it elsewhere for £20 before Amazon despatch.

Great deal, and I'd echo exStudent - Rockbox makes a huge difference to these players.

alasrati

1-4 weeks if you want it for £20. It seems to pop up on Currys at £20 too … 1-4 weeks if you want it for £20. It seems to pop up on Currys at £20 too quite often so you could order from Amazon then cancel if you find it elsewhere for £20 before Amazon despatch.


See my post #3. The 8GB version under £25 in stock at the moment.

Yes just ordered the 8gb myself for £24.99 currently in stock on the DSGi websites.

Have to agree this player is awesome - never use an Ipod now. You'll be astonished by the quality of sound this produces - winner of the 2009 anything but Ipod awards -
Your text here

If you Rockbox it - it improves it even further - better sound, better battery life (23-24hours), you can increase its volume - recommended.

I've never had an MP3 player before and found this Sans Clip + to be perfect for my needs.

Nice and small with lots of features.
Edited by: "halfpenny" 17th Aug 2010

"you can increase its volume - recommended"

Don't pick Europe when setting it up as it'll restrict your maximum volume!
You can reset it and choose USA but back-up your tunes first.

alasrati

Get one of these and an 8GB microSD for £10 or, better yet, a 16GB one … Get one of these and an 8GB microSD for £10 or, better yet, a 16GB one for £20 and you have a decent-sized player for not much money.For a long-winded explanation of the advantages of FLAC, read on...FLAC is the best format if you are ripping your CDs to your PC and don't want to ever have to repeat that time-consuming process. This is because FLAC is lossless, meaning it makes an exact copy of the music. Lossy codecs (e.g. mp3 or Apple m4a or Windows wma) actually lose some of the information contained in the music, but they try to lose stuff that you can't hear. This is probably acceptable if you only intend to use mp3s forever (or only m4a, or only wma). But if you buy a new player in the future that doesn't support mp3, then you try and convert all your mp3s to the new format, you end up with really crap quality music. Converting from one lossy format to another (known as transcoding) results in awful quality.However, if you have a perfect FLAC copy, you can convert it to any format you like and because FLAC is lossless, it will sound just as good as if you had ripped the CD to that format in the first place. With a few clicks you can convert your entire library of FLAC music (100s or 1000s of CDs) to whatever format you want (your PC will chug away for a good few hours though, but you can do other stuff while it works). You keep the FLAC files and have a set of corresponding files in the new format.Lots of people first experience this problem if they have been using an iPod with iTunes which rips to m4a by default. Then if they buy a new non-iPod mp3 player, it can't play their music. They can convert it (crap quality) or re-rip everything to mp3 (very time consuming). So if you want to only have to rip once, rip to FLAC (or another lossless codec, but FLAC is the best).Another important factor in avoiding ever having to rip your CD collection again, is to make a backup. At the very least this means keeping a copy on at least two separate hard drives. That way, if one hard drive breaks you don't have to go and rip 100s of CDs again.Now, as for actually putting FLAC on a portable player. If you encode your mp3s with the V0 quality setting using the LAME encoder, then 95%+ of people can't actually tell the difference between the mp3 and the original CD (or a FLAC copy) even with amazing headphones. Bearing in mind FLAC is about 4-5 times the size as V0 mp3, FLAC is a waste of space on a portable player for most people. It is handy though if you haven't already converted something just to be able to plonk it on your Clip+ and go.In terms of ripping software, I recommend Exact Audio Copy. It's quite tricky to set up though.In terms of conversion and tagging and stuff like that, I recommend foobar 2000.You also need to install FLAC and LAME.All of these programs are free.Anyway I hope that wasn't too boring.



Informative post, thanks

Have you tried foobar for ripping as well? Seems to work well for me

piginabox

"you can increase its volume - recommended"Don't pick Europe when setting … "you can increase its volume - recommended"Don't pick Europe when setting it up as it'll restrict your maximum volume!You can reset it and choose USA but back-up your tunes first.



I'm not talking about the settings in Sansa but you can make this seriously loud by tweaking Rockbox

exStudent

Yes just ordered the 8gb myself for £24.99 currently in stock on the DSGi … Yes just ordered the 8gb myself for £24.99 currently in stock on the DSGi websites.



Out of stock again now.

Must remember to check in morning again!
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