SanDisk X110 256GB Enterprise Class SSD [Read 505MB/s Write 445MB/s 81K IOPS]  - £59.99 (+£5.48 Delivery For Non-Forum Members) @ Scan
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SanDisk X110 256GB Enterprise Class SSD [Read 505MB/s Write 445MB/s 81K IOPS] - £59.99 (+£5.48 Delivery For Non-Forum Members) @ Scan

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Found 17th Jul 2015
• Leading edge 19nm NAND flash technology
• SATA Revision 3.0 (6Gb/s) connectivity
• Up to 505/445MB/s sequential read/write performance
• Capacities up to 256GB
• Ideal for storage or dual-drive caching applications

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Someone will moan that it's not actually an Enterprise Class drive, however it still comes with 5yr warranty and has thermal throttling (which has recently been shown to correlate well with longevity of the drive and it's data) and performs perfectly fast enough. I have the 128Gb version. Nice drive, good price! Definitely heat.

Looks hot, only 60£ for solid 256GB SSD

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jewelie

Someone will moan that it's not actually an Enterprise Class drive, … Someone will moan that it's not actually an Enterprise Class drive, however it still comes with 5yr warranty and has thermal throttling (which has recently been shown to correlate well with longevity of the drive and it's data) and performs perfectly fast enough. I have the 128Gb version. Nice drive, good price! Definitely heat.


Yea nice little SSD. Used it in a build for a friend of a friend back Christmas time and haven't heard from him since, so must be doing fine!
IMO adding the 'Enterprise' is just a marketing gimmick make it sound like a better drive and to shift more of it. Not too bothered as it still performs well.

May only be pennies, but it works out slightly cheaper to get it from Scans eBay whoever doesn't get Free Delivery btw

ebay.co.uk/itm…cb7

£64.92 vs. £65.47


Edited by: "mamboboy" 17th Jul 2015

doesnt give free delivery under £50 exc vat
£58.79 on today only
Edited by: "welsh_andy" 17th Jul 2015

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welsh_andy

doesnt give free delivery under £50 exc vat£58.79 on today only


Sorry, forgot it was only Hexus who has free del over £20

Could always add an audio splitter to push it over? Might come in handy one day
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/scan-audio-splitter-2x-35mm-trs-jack-(female)-to-35mm-trs-jack-(male)
Edited by: "mamboboy" 17th Jul 2015

ordered 2, and got free delivery. thanks heat added

jewelie

Someone will moan that it's not actually an Enterprise Class drive



Then let's call a Corsa a Ferrari while we're at it. It's not a case of moaning - the product isn't what is listed.

This is not an 'enterprise class' drive. Not even SanDisk claim this: sandisk.co.uk/pro…10/ . The claim is Scan getting it wrong, nothing more. It's an OEM drive designed for system integrators and builders.

It's a low end / quite standard MLC consumer drive. Nothing more.

As for 'thermal throttling' - this isn't anything new. It's been in Crucial and Samsung drives for years. It's a very standard feature that even old controllers have. It's nothing special.

It's a standard SSD at an okay price, but let's not make out it's anything special. It's not.

nomnomnomnom

Then let's call a Corsa a Ferrari while we're at it. It's not a case of … Then let's call a Corsa a Ferrari while we're at it. It's not a case of moaning - the product isn't what is listed.This is not an 'enterprise class' drive. Not even SanDisk claim this: http://www.sandisk.co.uk/products/ssd/sata/x110/ . The claim is Scan getting it wrong, nothing more. It's an OEM drive designed for system integrators and builders.It's a low end / quite standard MLC consumer drive. Nothing more.As for 'thermal throttling' - this isn't anything new. It's been in Crucial and Samsung drives for years. It's a very standard feature that even old controllers have. It's nothing special.It's a standard SSD at an okay price, but let's not make out it's anything special. It's not.



I'm not disagreeing that it's not an enterprise class drive, you know.

It's not amazing, but it's more than adequate for most purposes and is good value at this price and has a few pluses, thermal throttling isn't standard on everything and doesn't seem to be on the cheaper Sandisks, and this has a longer warranty than the other cheaper Sandisks.

from my own experience installing a cheap old 2nd hand sandisk ssd at the start of the year - it's still nearly 5x faster load in real-world use loading games like world of tanks/ships and WoW compared to a standard drive. added to that the difference between a top-of-the-line sata 6gbs ssd and an everyday model is less than 20% in most tests (going off CPC reviews) that's like a second at most in game loading for a £30-50 premium over this drive for same size.

td;dr - if you play games and don't have an ssd GET ONE, 128gb is quite limiting - windows install and 4/5 AAA games fill it so 256gb is a good size, and £30 per 128gb seems to be a good (if common) price

edit - quick check and the fastest HDD CPC tested before they stopped bothering was 117mb/s read 81mb/s write for comparison. SSD's are damn good to have.
Edited by: "format" 18th Jul 2015

jewelie

shown to correlate well with longevity of the drive and it's data)



Who by? Sandisk or independents?

nomnomnomnom

Then let's call a Corsa a Ferrari while we're at it. It's not a case of … Then let's call a Corsa a Ferrari while we're at it. It's not a case of moaning - the product isn't what is listed.This is not an 'enterprise class' drive. Not even SanDisk claim this: http://www.sandisk.co.uk/products/ssd/sata/x110/ . The claim is Scan getting it wrong, nothing more. It's an OEM drive designed for system integrators and builders.It's a low end / quite standard MLC consumer drive. Nothing more.As for 'thermal throttling' - this isn't anything new. It's been in Crucial and Samsung drives for years. It's a very standard feature that even old controllers have. It's nothing special.It's a standard SSD at an okay price, but let's not make out it's anything special. It's not.



Yes, a bit of research suggests it's a Sandisk Ultra Plus for the OEM sector and nothing more. But it's not quite the difference between a Vauxhall Corsa and any Ferrari, bit harsh, the actual gap is far less.

hexus.net/tec…e=8

Another SSD deal and another list of people waving epeen about and moaning of small differences.
If you have a mechanical drive buy a modern SSD it will make a big difference. If you need a larger SSD buy a bigger one otherwise don't bother swapping.

If you don't have free delivery, the BX100 is 61.98 at ebuyer. I'd rather buy that than the X110 even though it is £1.99 more.

wide

Who by? Sandisk or independents?



Independently, recently, saw something in the news.

A-ha, here, it was Facebook (as in, actually Facebook, not ON Facebook, so to speak.) Quoting "... Another was that SSDs that have read the most data do not show a statistically significant increase in failure rates. Higher temperatures led to higher failure rates with data write throttling (reduction) reducing the impact of higher temperatures ...."

I only had cause to look up whether or not the SSDs I have did thermal throttling or not when I saw this report compounding what's been in the news about SSDs about the temperature correlations with longevity in the drives - turns out the other Sandisk one I have doesn't do it (which was overheating a bit, so is now connected externally via an ESATA connector instead) but this one has.

nomnomnomnom

Then let's call a Corsa a Ferrari while we're at it. It's not a case of … Then let's call a Corsa a Ferrari while we're at it. It's not a case of moaning - the product isn't what is listed.This is not an 'enterprise class' drive. Not even SanDisk claim this: http://www.sandisk.co.uk/products/ssd/sata/x110/ . The claim is Scan getting it wrong, nothing more. It's an OEM drive designed for system integrators and builders.It's a low end / quite standard MLC consumer drive. Nothing more.As for 'thermal throttling' - this isn't anything new. It's been in Crucial and Samsung drives for years. It's a very standard feature that even old controllers have. It's nothing special.It's a standard SSD at an okay price, but let's not make out it's anything special. It's not.

lol Vauxhall Ferrari, I mean corsa sorry...

format

if you play games and don't have an ssd GET ONE



I would just say it's as simple as, if you don't have an SSD, get one. They make SUCH a huge difference to any system! And yeah, the differences between SSDs is minimal compared to the differrences between a regular drive and an SSDs (it's just that I care about how long my equipment lasts.)

Enterprise class. What does it do, beam you up?

M1sterDeeds

Enterprise class. What does it do, beam you up?



LOL

Alvie

If you don't have free delivery, the BX100 is 61.98 at ebuyer. I'd rather … If you don't have free delivery, the BX100 is 61.98 at ebuyer. I'd rather buy that than the X110 even though it is £1.99 more.


Why would you prefer the Crucial BX100 over the Sandisk X110?

X10

Why would you prefer the Crucial BX100 over the Sandisk X110?


because the BX100 is a better drive
ssd.userbenchmark.com/Com…145

hotttþ

Just to chip in to anyone reading, I think 'enterprise class' generally refers to drives with:

1) more over provisioning (and therefore write endurance) than their consumer brethren, and
2) power loss protection, capacitors on board to keep it running long enough to write out what's in the cache in the event of power failure.

So this ain't enterprise. It is however a decent SSD. Just a pretty standard price, and there are newer and faster for similar money. Cold

minted83

because the BX100 is a better … because the BX100 is a better drivehttp://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/SanDisk-X110-256GB-vs-Crucial-BX100-250GB/m6828vs3145


That's just a performance comparison which translates to marginal gains in real day to day usage, the "better" is differentiated by RAS (reliability, availability and serviceability) and after sales service and that link you provided certain does none indication.

minted83

because the BX100 is a better … because the BX100 is a better drivehttp://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/SanDisk-X110-256GB-vs-Crucial-BX100-250GB/m6828vs3145


Yeah, and it's newer and I prefer Crucial to SanDisk!

nomnomnomnom

Then let's call a Corsa a Ferrari while we're at it. It's not a case of … Then let's call a Corsa a Ferrari while we're at it. It's not a case of moaning - the product isn't what is listed.This is not an 'enterprise class' drive. Not even SanDisk claim this: http://www.sandisk.co.uk/products/ssd/sata/x110/ . The claim is Scan getting it wrong, nothing more. It's an OEM drive designed for system integrators and builders.It's a low end / quite standard MLC consumer drive. Nothing more.As for 'thermal throttling' - this isn't anything new. It's been in Crucial and Samsung drives for years. It's a very standard feature that even old controllers have. It's nothing special.It's a standard SSD at an okay price, but let's not make out it's anything special. It's not.


If Scan is claiming it is enterprise class when Sandisk say it is not, isn't that illegal?

Sheza1

If Scan is claiming it is enterprise class when Sandisk say it is not, … If Scan is claiming it is enterprise class when Sandisk say it is not, isn't that illegal?


I've just phoned the NSA and they are going to Nuke Bolton tomorrow after East Enders.

So is it worth the bother of installing one of these in my IBM T42 if I need a new hard drive? Will it fit? Will I see any noticeable speed increase?

Well, after reading through this thread and in all the excitement, I decided to order this... Twice the price but hey-ho lols ... seems to have go-faster stripes too

Scan have got the Sandisk Ultra II on deal today, got the 480GB for £119. Was holding out for the Crucial MX drives but according to reviews the Ultra II, MX100 and Samsung 840 are pretty identical in real world usages.

Big hint for SSD buyers is wait for Amazon sale, then do 2 or 3 or 4 ( yes that many ) beat my price through bespoke....then one or two prices will be cheaper than the other ( even from same supplier so don't ask me why?!) and then get cashback on the amount...they are giving cashback again. I bought a usually 130 quid ssd card for 90 quid the other week...105 from bespoke and then 15 % cashback which was paid last week...bargain!!

splender

That's just a performance comparison which translates to marginal gains … That's just a performance comparison which translates to marginal gains in real day to day usage, the "better" is differentiated by RAS (reliability, availability and serviceability) and after sales service and that link you provided certain does none indication.


lol "just" a performance comparison. yea, because who cares about how good your drive performs.
what has availabilty and serviceability got to do with SSD's? it's for sale, so its available. and who takes their SSD in for a service?
most people who buy an SSD care about real world read/write speeds, reliability, and value for money. That site is perfect for a direct comparison between 2 specific SSD's, which is why I pointed them to it.

Awaken

Just to chip in to anyone reading, I think 'enterprise class' generally … Just to chip in to anyone reading, I think 'enterprise class' generally refers to drives with:1) more over provisioning (and therefore write endurance) than their consumer brethren, and2) power loss protection, capacitors on board to keep it running long enough to write out what's in the cache in the event of power failure.So this ain't enterprise. It is however a decent SSD. Just a pretty standard price, and there are newer and faster for similar money. Cold



These days IMHO there should be a:

3) Self-Encrypting - most places require field laptops to be encrypted (and remote wipe-able) with the keys centrally managed.

And this is not a SED either...

I'm not too clued up on SSD drives but could anyone let me know what I would need to replace a blu-ray optical drive in an MSI FX400 Laptop with a decent SSD please?

Just working out whether it's worth upgrading to an SSD, from 4gb of Ram to 8gb, and replacing the battery in this old-ish i3 or getting a new laptop.

Thanks.



Not a single person has compared any small differences. People are just pointing out this is not an enterprise drive. Of course it's going to be faster than a mechanical drive and no one has claimed otherwise.

Oneday77

Another SSD deal and another list of people waving epeen about and … Another SSD deal and another list of people waving epeen about and moaning of small differences.

jewelie

Someone will moan that it's not actually an Enterprise Class drive

Awaken

Just to chip in to anyone reading, I think 'enterprise class' generally … Just to chip in to anyone reading, I think 'enterprise class' generally refers to drives with:1) more over provisioning (and therefore write endurance) than their consumer brethren, and2) power loss protection, capacitors on board to keep it running long enough to write out what's in the cache in the event of power failure.So this ain't enterprise. It is however a decent SSD. Just a pretty standard price, and there are newer and faster for similar money. Cold

Sheza1

If Scan is claiming it is enterprise class when Sandisk say it is not, … If Scan is claiming it is enterprise class when Sandisk say it is not, isn't that illegal?



Yes, it was tongue in cheek of course - but you can't just take a low end drive and slap an 'enterprise' rating on it. A drive like this would melt in an enterprise environment.

The jump is huge though in terms of price. Take a look at a real enterprise drive: ebuyer.com/630…b21

400GB starts at over £1300....



Not even close :p.There is a *lot* more to an enterprise drive than what you've listed. Heck, they are pretty basic features of consumer drives.

An enterprise drive is designed for constant, extreme workloads. They will sometimes use SLC NAND, with ECC, SAS interface and extensively tested firmware.



Making a mistake is not illegal in general
If you were to order one and they didn't change it when you found out it had been mis-sold however....

Just to clear this up guys, these are enterprise drives: tomsitpro.com/art…tml

Most will start around the $1000 mark for a few hundred gig and go upwards. Not many use the SATA interface (although some do), but rather SAS.


The absolute cheapest enterprise class drive I could find in the UK is at Ebuyer: ebuyer.com/601…b21

£333 for 100GB, which is £3.33/GB
This Sanddisk is 256GB for £60, which is £0.234/GB

The difference between an enterprise SSD in terms of features, reliability and cost is huge. The differences are not minor. They are not designed to be normal consumer drives.
Edited by: "nomnomnomnom" 18th Jul 2015

nomnomnomnom

Not even close :p.There is a *lot* more to an enterprise drive than what … Not even close :p.There is a *lot* more to an enterprise drive than what you've listed. Heck, they are pretty basic features of consumer drives.An enterprise drive is designed for constant, extreme workloads. They will sometimes use SLC NAND, with ECC, SAS interface and extensively tested firmware.



Oh please, most 'enterprise' SSDs are just the consumer product with a smaller capacity (but the same nand) and some capacitors slapped on, plus older (properly debugged but less features) firmware.

Show me a consumer SSD with actual power loss protection? I might buy a couple for ZIL on my NAS

Adrian7

These days IMHO there should be a:3) Self-Encrypting - most places … These days IMHO there should be a:3) Self-Encrypting - most places require field laptops to be encrypted (and remote wipe-able) with the keys centrally managed.And this is not a SED either...



Meh, this is a 'you need it or you don't' thing really isn't it? Full disk encryption is just down to whether the controller they pick or design is able to, as opposed to product positioning as consumer/business/enterprise. As for remote wipe, that's more the job of the TPM chip and manageability software to go with it surely?

Awaken

Oh please, most 'enterprise' SSDs are just the consumer product with a … Oh please, most 'enterprise' SSDs are just the consumer product with a smaller capacity (but the same nand) and some capacitors slapped on, plus older (properly debugged but less features) firmware.



Apart from eMLC is rated much higher in terms of P/E cycles and often has a physical differences to cMLC. And of course, then there are enterprise drives that use SLC in some cases.

It's not like the datasheets for this information is particularly hard to find...

RG101

I'm not too clued up on SSD drives but could anyone let me know what I … I'm not too clued up on SSD drives but could anyone let me know what I would need to replace a blu-ray optical drive in an MSI FX400 Laptop with a decent SSD please?Just working out whether it's worth upgrading to an SSD, from 4gb of Ram to 8gb, and replacing the battery in this old-ish i3 or getting a new laptop.Thanks.



tomshardware.co.uk/ssd…tml

hell of a lot easier to install it in place of HDD but obviously you trade off storage space with extra cost, smaller size and a LOT more speed - above is a guide on how to have both but seems like you need a special caddy to replace the optical depending on your make of laptop.

and on an i3 laptop i really doubt having more than 4gb of ram will make any noticeable difference, wheras after putting ssd's in several relatives laptops they absolutely fly - buy a cheap 1tb external drive (esata, usb3 or whatever fast port your laptop supports) and keep photos, movies etc. on that.

Edited by: "format" 19th Jul 2015

nomnomnomnom

Apart from eMLC is rated much higher in terms of P/E cycles and often has … Apart from eMLC is rated much higher in terms of P/E cycles and often has a physical differences to cMLC. And of course, then there are enterprise drives that use SLC in some cases.It's not like the datasheets for this information is particularly hard to find...



There's no such thing as "eMLC" and "cMLC", manufacturers pick it, buy it, and slap it in their SSD, then slap a label on it depending on it's target market. There's good, there's bad, and there's alright, and like almost everything else in the computer industry, you just have to do your homework to find out what's right for you. SLC is a different matter, and again, like full disk encryption, if you need it, find a product that has it.

Or, get lucky on ebay like I did because half the world still doesn't know what SLC is Though no power loss protection on mine, bah!

chapchap

Big hint for SSD buyers is wait for Amazon sale, then do 2 or 3 or 4 ( … Big hint for SSD buyers is wait for Amazon sale, then do 2 or 3 or 4 ( yes that many ) beat my price through bespoke....then one or two prices will be cheaper than the other ( even from same supplier so don't ask me why?!) and then get cashback on the amount...they are giving cashback again. I bought a usually 130 quid ssd card for 90 quid the other week...105 from bespoke and then 15 % cashback which was paid last week...bargain!!



I got put off using Bespoke/Flubit a bit, for big purchases anyway.

As you pay Flubit/Bespoke, you have a contract with Flubit/Bespoke and a receipt from them (not the supplier) yet the contract you have with Flubit attempts to hand off all responsibility to the supplier, which is a bit risky and messy. This could also make it awkward with manufacturer RMAs too if they are fussy about who sold you the item (as your receipt will say that Flubit did.)

... and, if it does all go tits up... you can't use section 75 credit card protection either. (It's the same as buying on Amazon Marketplace: you're breaking the direct lendersupplier relationship and adding a third party in the middle, which means that section 75 protection doesn't count. I wonder if this is WHY BarclayCard runs and promotes Bespoke, as it means products bought that way take them out of otherwise statutory liability loop?

format

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/ssd-laptop-upgrade-optical-bay,review-32366.htmlhell of a lot easier to install it in place of HDD but obviously you trade off storage space with extra cost, smaller size and a LOT more speed - above is a guide on how to have both but seems like you need a special caddy to replace the optical depending on your make of laptop.and on an i3 laptop i really doubt having more than 4gb of ram will make any noticeable difference, wheras after putting ssd's in several relatives laptops they absolutely fly - buy a cheap 1tb external drive (esata, usb3 or whatever fast port your laptop supports) and keep photos, movies etc. on that.



Thanks for that. I'm still undecided whether to bother. It just about runs Unity and Autodesk Maya so the Ram upgrade was to help with those while the SSD would be nice to speed up Windows. The optical drive is broken so will be coming out anyway and it already has 500gb of HDD storage (more than enough).

I may just replace the optical drive and battery and sell it on.
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