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Posted 27th JulEdited by:"Tacavas"
Price drop, great card for 1440p gaming or work.
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Will it run MineCraft smoothly?
Unless you need the compute abilities of this card go for a 5700 XT, or even a 2070 Super.
Edited by: "3anana" 27th Jul
based on many of the over-heating issues with current AMD Vega gpus this thing must have the power to heat a semi detached house.
720 EUR (14000 MXN)
@Tacavas 'for gaming or work'... What kind of work would require a beast such as this? (genuine interest).
Great card for 1440p gaming? Your joking right? A Vega 56 does 1440p perfectly fine at 70hz and doesn't cost even half the price of this.
Pokey27/07/2019 21:34

@Tacavas 'for gaming or work'... What kind of work would require a beast …@Tacavas 'for gaming or work'... What kind of work would require a beast such as this? (genuine interest).


Probably game development or video rendering
Pokey27/07/2019 21:34

@Tacavas 'for gaming or work'... What kind of work would require a beast …@Tacavas 'for gaming or work'... What kind of work would require a beast such as this? (genuine interest).


A.I., 3d Rendering, Video Editing / Rendering (on the fly insertion of game stats into live streaming), plus loads more.
bbfb12327/07/2019 21:52

Great card for 1440p gaming? Your joking right? A Vega 56 does 1440p …Great card for 1440p gaming? Your joking right? A Vega 56 does 1440p perfectly fine at 70hz and doesn't cost even half the price of this.



Pretty sure you can get 1440p monitors that run a lot higher than 70hz... I have a 3440x1440p @ 120hz... I'll want something stronger than a Vega 56 to get anywhere near 120hz in newer AAA games... They don't make cards like this or the Gtx 2080/2080ti for fun. People obviously buy cards like this to get the best performance possible and to be fair I'm not that sure a Vega 56 could max out some current titles at 1440p and achieve 70hz.
Terrible value unless you can use it as a workstation card that will take advantage of its particular specs.

The 5700XT is a much, much better buy if you want a gaming GPU, getting you pretty close performance at almost half the price.
AMD seemed embarrassed when they released this. 5700 XT was £340 on Amazon recently, that was far more VFM. This needs to drop to £450, especially while it's summer
Semi-confirmed as EOL. While I'm sure it'll be supported in drivers for some time, it's just a stopgap for Big Navi and with the Super refresh Nvidia's cards are now more than competitive on price and performance in most scenarios.
bbfb12327/07/2019 21:52

Great card for 1440p gaming? Your joking right? A Vega 56 does 1440p …Great card for 1440p gaming? Your joking right? A Vega 56 does 1440p perfectly fine at 70hz and doesn't cost even half the price of this.



but has severe over heating issues, much like many AMD cards.

Why anybody would play the silicon lottery and invest in hardware such this over Nvidia for the sake of a slight saving in upfront cost is just not worth it.

Cpus,yes Ryzen has cemented its stature as a genuine competitor to Intel and AMD should be commended but for GPUs, seriously dont bother.
riccom28/07/2019 00:26

but has severe over heating issues, much like many AMD cards.Why anybody …but has severe over heating issues, much like many AMD cards.Why anybody would play the silicon lottery and invest in hardware such this over Nvidia for the sake of a slight saving in upfront cost is just not worth it.Cpus,yes Ryzen has cemented its stature as a genuine competitor to Intel and AMD should be commended but for GPUs, seriously dont bother.



Nothing wrong with Navi at all, a good step forward for AMD GPUs
This card is so dead its been discontinued already.
Don't bother at this price point.
3anana27/07/2019 20:12

Unless you need the compute abilities of this card go for a 5700 XT, or …Unless you need the compute abilities of this card go for a 5700 XT, or even a 2070 Super.


Great advice
adam4541727/07/2019 23:17

Pretty sure you can get 1440p monitors that run a lot higher than 70hz... …Pretty sure you can get 1440p monitors that run a lot higher than 70hz... I have a 3440x1440p @ 120hz... I'll want something stronger than a Vega 56 to get anywhere near 120hz in newer AAA games... They don't make cards like this or the Gtx 2080/2080ti for fun. People obviously buy cards like this to get the best performance possible and to be fair I'm not that sure a Vega 56 could max out some current titles at 1440p and achieve 70hz.


My V56 maxes out BF1 at 1440p 70hz max settings. I don't really play any other games other than RL and SoT. Both max fps obviously.
riccom28/07/2019 00:26

but has severe over heating issues, much like many AMD cards.Why anybody …but has severe over heating issues, much like many AMD cards.Why anybody would play the silicon lottery and invest in hardware such this over Nvidia for the sake of a slight saving in upfront cost is just not worth it.Cpus,yes Ryzen has cemented its stature as a genuine competitor to Intel and AMD should be commended but for GPUs, seriously dont bother.


You obviously have no knowledge regarding GPUs if you think all AMD cards overheat and are not worth buying. Most if not all blower style cards run hot regardless of AMD or Nvidia. Most aftermarket cards run cool either way. Just with Vega 56 for instance it needs tweaking. My V56 Pulse runs at 1600mhz core 950mhz memory and at full load runs under 60c.

To say "just buy Nvidia" makes you look foolish.
bbfb12328/07/2019 16:05

You obviously have no knowledge regarding GPUs if you think all AMD cards …You obviously have no knowledge regarding GPUs if you think all AMD cards overheat and are not worth buying. Most if not all blower style cards run hot regardless of AMD or Nvidia. Most aftermarket cards run cool either way. Just with Vega 56 for instance it needs tweaking. My V56 Pulse runs at 1600mhz core 950mhz memory and at full load runs under 60c. To say "just buy Nvidia" makes you look foolish.



....as does you mis quoting my reply.

I said many AMD cards suffer from overheating NOT all, (in particular yours).

Really not sure how you arrivied at the conclusion that i know nothing about GPUS when the content of my response is true, but this is the nature of people on the internet and forums trying to make out I know nothing and you know everything based on the fact you didnht like what i said. Dont take offence, its not personal.

You own a Vega card, thats fine, nothing wrong with that - no 'tweaking' was required on my card which is of a similar performance level.
bbfb12328/07/2019 16:03

My V56 maxes out BF1 at 1440p 70hz max settings. I don't really play any …My V56 maxes out BF1 at 1440p 70hz max settings. I don't really play any other games other than RL and SoT. Both max fps obviously.


I'd like to think it maxes out a nearly 3 year old game... Both cards are in different brackets price and performance. I don't think you can compare a V56 with this card imo.
riccom28/07/2019 00:26

but has severe over heating issues, much like many AMD cards.Why anybody …but has severe over heating issues, much like many AMD cards.Why anybody would play the silicon lottery and invest in hardware such this over Nvidia for the sake of a slight saving in upfront cost is just not worth it.Cpus,yes Ryzen has cemented its stature as a genuine competitor to Intel and AMD should be commended but for GPUs, seriously dont bother.


Go check Vega 56 vs Rtx 2060 benchmarks and return, then look at the costs of these cards.
Go check 5700 XT and Super 2060S benchmarks, look at the costs of these cards, and return.

The vega 56 has no heating issues. A pulse Vega 56 runs silent and hits 6xC under load. It trashes an Rtx 2060 in price performance. The pulse can be had for £240, by the way.

A 5700XT does the same for the 2060S, but it runs hotter (ref cards). I got an 5700 XT new for £340, the cheapest 2060S I could see was £380, and it's faster than the super by a considerable margin. The aibs will run cooler, be cheaper, and better.

I just built a gaming PC and read through a ton of benchmarks to come to this conclusion, I mean a lot, but don't take my word for it go read up. my last two PCs both had Nvidia cards. This PC doesn't, because AMD offer a better card for the money at present.
^TL:DR dont really have the effort or interest involved in conducting your research, i have read many differenr articles of the card overheating in the past, its fact, it happens. To say otherwise is just weird.

I note you are a stern AMD supporter in similar other posts, fair enough, but their cards are not for me, I dont need to worry about saving a few £ or a benchmark test, i need the best performing / stable / reliable hardware and that happens to be nvidia of which AMD is some way behind (imo of course :))

cheers
Not a stern AMD fan, like I said, my past two builds were nvidia. Both of them had a £350 Nvidia card in them, I just acknowledge who has the better cards right now. There are no articles showing the Pulse Vega 56 overheats, I'll bet money on it.

The 5700XT has one review out of nine I believe mentioning overheating. Could well be a bad card, who knows.
zeb.mattey29/07/2019 11:15

Not a stern AMD fan, like I said, my past two builds were nvidia. Both of …Not a stern AMD fan, like I said, my past two builds were nvidia. Both of them had a £350 Nvidia card in them, I just acknowledge who has the better cards right now. There are no articles showing the Pulse Vega 56 overheats, I'll bet money on it. The 5700XT has one review out of nine I believe mentioning overheating. Could well be a bad card, who knows.



Out of 3 Navi cards so far (1 5700 2 XT) I've had a few driver issues on the early ones, nothing much since then. Overclocking was pretty unreliable initially through Wattman, but I haven't tried the newest version of Afterburner yet. Nonetheless no overheating issues so far.

Just work in a custom fan profile and you should be good to go. The stock thermal pad is ok but a repaste with washer mod is recommended if anyone happy to open theirs up.
Edited by: "3anana" 29th Jul
jaydeeuk127/07/2019 23:26

AMD seemed embarrassed when they released this. 5700 XT was £340 on Amazon …AMD seemed embarrassed when they released this. 5700 XT was £340 on Amazon recently, that was far more VFM. This needs to drop to £450, especially while it's summer


Apparently when this was released it was selling at near cost price to produce. I agree it should be around £450 but they'd be definitely selling at a loss. So I can't see that happening anytime soon
toonnut01/08/2019 08:33

Apparently when this was released it was selling at near cost price to …Apparently when this was released it was selling at near cost price to produce. I agree it should be around £450 but they'd be definitely selling at a loss. So I can't see that happening anytime soon


I think that it was the 16gb of HBM that was costing so much. I got a radeon vii 3 months ago for £600, I had no idea that the performance of the new Navi cards would be so close to it.
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