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SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 480 NITRO+ 8GB GDDR5 | 11260-07-20G | Novatech £249.98 (preorder)
SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 480 NITRO+ 8GB GDDR5 | 11260-07-20G | Novatech £249.98 (preorder)

SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 480 NITRO+ 8GB GDDR5 | 11260-07-20G | Novatech £249.98 (preorder)

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not really a deal but they have stock as of tomorrow. I ordered just now as been waiting a while to buy. upgrading from a 6870 so should see a small difference...

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I have this, it is good, this is 1p cheaper than I paid.

This just seems so expensive compared to that Sapphire 4GB version that was £187, if you set the memory clock speeds the same it's literally a couple of frames different. I just don't think the 480 has the overall horsepower to need more than 4GB.
It's a great card and performs really well in DX12 for the money but I'd stick with a cheap 4GB Sapphire and enjoy pretty much the same experience but saving £60.

Anyone else preying Vega is awesome and not a let down?

biggiep

This just seems so expensive compared to that Sapphire 4GB version that … This just seems so expensive compared to that Sapphire 4GB version that was £187, if you set the memory clock speeds the same it's literally a couple of frames different. I just don't think the 480 has the overall horsepower to need more than 4GB. It's a great card and performs really well in DX12 for the money but I'd stick with a cheap 4GB Sapphire and enjoy pretty much the same experience but saving £60.Anyone else preying Vega is awesome and not a let down?



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biggiep

I just don't think the 480 has the overall horsepower to need more than … I just don't think the 480 has the overall horsepower to need more than 4GB.


This line of thinking doesn't and never has made any sense. Turning up the texture setting in a game has essentially zero impact on performance as long as you have the VRAM to handle it. There are many games which can now use well over 4GB VRAM even at 1080p, and the fact is that you're going to need to bump the texture setting down a notch or two on a 4GB card. Mirror's Edge: Catalyst for example, with it's 'Hyper' texture setting is something that's out of reach of a 4GB card, yet an 8GB model could run it at the exact same settings, but with the higher quality textures too and see the same performance, but with better visual quality. Doom is another game with a higher quality setting ('Nightmare') that isn't even offered to people with <6GB VRAM, despite the fact that a 480 would run it on those settings perfectly at 1080/60.

Not to mention the fact that whilst you may be able to overclock the memory to match a stock 8GB model, you can overclock the 8GB card too, restoring the 1GHz clock speed advantage and further increasing memory bandwidth and performance. The 8GB models use chips rated for 8GHz in the first place, whilst the 4GB models have chips rated for 7GHz. You're never going to be able to overclock them enough to match the better binned ones overclock versus overclock.

Whether this is worth another £50 to you or not is something to decide for yourself, but there absolutely are benefits to the 8GB model, and to suggest otherwise is a tiny bit delusional.

Original Poster

I'm upgrading from a pretty dated card, I know it's not a hot deal, but I'm future proofing my graphics for another 3 years hopefully. I only play at 1080p but wouldn't mind a shot at the VR stuff down the line. Plus in 3 years I can crossfire/sli if I need too. Time will tell whether the expense was worth it.

Aretak

This line of thinking doesn't and never has made any sense. Turning up … This line of thinking doesn't and never has made any sense. Turning up the texture setting in a game has essentially zero impact on performance as long as you have the VRAM to handle it. There are many games which can now use well over 4GB VRAM even at 1080p, and the fact is that you're going to need to bump the texture setting down a notch or two on a 4GB card. Mirror's Edge: Catalyst for example, with it's 'Hyper' texture setting is something that's out of reach of a 4GB card, yet an 8GB model could run it at the exact same settings, but with the higher quality textures too and see the same performance, but with better visual quality. Doom is another game with a higher quality setting ('Nightmare') that isn't even offered to people with <6GB VRAM, despite the fact that a 480 would run it on those settings perfectly at 1080/60.Not to mention the fact that whilst you may be able to overclock the memory to match a stock 8GB model, you can overclock the 8GB card too, restoring the 1GHz clock speed advantage and further increasing memory bandwidth and performance. The 8GB models use chips rated for 8GHz in the first place, whilst the 4GB models have chips rated for 7GHz. You're never going to be able to overclock them enough to match the better binned ones overclock versus overclock.Whether this is worth another £50 to you or not is something to decide for yourself, but there absolutely are benefits to the 8GB model, and to suggest otherwise is a tiny bit delusional.



But all the reviews I've read state that even when the VRAM used is over 4gb it doesn't impact the fps in a huge way, not to the tune of £60 in my eyes. Of course you need grunt of the card too, the amount of VRAM is not the be all and end all, not at 1080p which is what you'd realistically be buying this card for, don't believe the marketing hype. I'm pretty sure the hypertexture thing in Mirrors Edge has been smoothed out now so cards with less VRAM don't suffer that much.

But that's why we have choice so you can read your own reviews and draw your own conclusions but what I will say is this if you are expecting the 8gb to perform considerably better than the 4gb you'll be sadly disappointed.

eurogamer.net/art…iew - "However, in the vast majority of scenarios, you're looking at only a one to four percent advantage by investing in the more expensive card."

biggiep

I just don't think the 480 has the overall horsepower to need more than … I just don't think the 480 has the overall horsepower to need more than 4GB.


It's about as fast as the Nvidia 780 Ti, for which 3GB was enough at launch, but isn't always enough anymore.

I agree that with today's games, 4GB is enough, even on AMD cards.

But I'm not sure that it'll be enough throughout 2017, and for me, a £200+ graphics card shouldn't be hitting that limit a year later.

It's worth noting that simple FPS aggregates don't necessarily show the stuttering produced by VRAM thrashing. And it's also worth noting that AMD cards don't manage their memory quite as efficiently as Nvidia cards. In the ~£150 range, the 4GB 480 is a killer card, but perhaps doesn't have the legs to justify ~£200+.

Based on AMD's announcement, the 8GB 480 should be US$30 more than the 4GB 480, so we should have had £200 8GB 480s following that wonderful £174 debut for the 4GB card. Hopefully they're still incoming, but at least we've got the £230 6GB 1060 for now.

And just skip the 3GB 1060 until it's priced to compete with (or replace) the 950.

For the same price, the 1060 beats the 480 in the majority of games. In the few DX12/Vulkan titles the 480 only beats the 1060 by the slightest of margins. All the while the 480 uses more power than the 1060 (150W vs 120W).

For me the 480 needs to be priced around (max) £200 for the 8GB card for it to be considered instead of the 1060. At this price it's going into the 1060 range so it's a no brainer which card to go for.
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