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Just seen Halfords have got some Electric bike included within their Payday deals. This metis is only £521 when you apply the discount voucher. Great value for money. This has a front hub motor and is geared, plus has a 20 mile range - so most likely the one I’ll buy the old dear for Christmas!
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cheaper than The Apprentices Aphrodite 'sophisticated' bike
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209 Watt hour battery,..ridiculous ..please be aware of this if purchasing, & find out what it is compatible with for larger more capable replacement when this dies from too much draw over too few batteries + cold combination.

IF it really will be a "pootle" bike within a village confines then yes you'll get away with it but this is no commuter e-bike
In that respect as long as expectations vs reality aren't exceeded & a new battery isn't daft money then its an ok deal, go beyond its realistic capability & its a mistaken purchase.
Cheap for a reason
24v battery and a 8.7ah battery.
Motor on the front wheel
22kgs

This is like a bike that has had a electric kit added

Always look for a sub 20kg bike, 36v battery at least 10ah, 250w motor, rear wheel motor and a battery on the frame not on the rear pannier rack.
Edited by: "markvirgo" 27th Oct
markvirgo27/10/2019 11:51

Cheap for a reason 24v battery and a 8.7ah battery.Motor on the front …Cheap for a reason 24v battery and a 8.7ah battery.Motor on the front wheel22kgsThis is like a bike that has had a electric kit added Always look for a sub 20kg bike, 36v battery at least 10ah, 500w motor, rear wheel motor and a battery on the frame not on the rear pannier rack.


Lots of great e-bikes go over 20kg, 500W motor isn't legal for UK roads although admittedly you would get away with it I'm sure but many won't want to break the law. Many advantages to having a hub motor on the front wheel a well as disadvantages too. For many a front hub motor will be better.

This looks a pretty awful e-bike overall though with the lowest grade components understandable at the price but not what I'd call a bargain.
bonzobanana27/10/2019 12:04

Lots of great e-bikes go over 20kg, 500W motor isn't legal for UK roads …Lots of great e-bikes go over 20kg, 500W motor isn't legal for UK roads although admittedly you would get away with it I'm sure but many won't want to break the law. Many advantages to having a hub motor on the front wheel a well as disadvantages too. For many a front hub motor will be better. This looks a pretty awful e-bike overall though with the lowest grade components understandable at the price but not what I'd call a bargain.



Sorry type 250w motor.

There is no advantage in having the motor on the front wheel, The disadvantage is the weight when turning and lifing the front up when going up kerbs etc when needed as well as if you remove the front wheel to transport the bike you have to keep unplugging the motor and the conections always fail after a while due to the thin pins.
markvirgo27/10/2019 12:15

Sorry type 250w motor. There is no advantage in having the motor on the …Sorry type 250w motor. There is no advantage in having the motor on the front wheel, The disadvantage is the weight when turning and lifing the front up when going up kerbs etc when needed as well as if you remove the front wheel to transport the bike you have to keep unplugging the motor and the conections always fail after a while due to the thin pins.


Advantages I can think of;

a) you can have a higher quality stronger freehub based rear wheel with wider gearing compared to many entry level rear motor hubs that only take low quality freewheels with poor high gearing. Also freewheels wobble so the gearing needs more frequent adjustment and doesn't shift as well. Some e-bikes use 8 or 9 speed freewheels which are notoriously unreliable on the rear hub.

b) Evens tyre wear between front an back as the bike is effectively all wheel drive so can improve drive on poor surfaces, even when one wheel is slipping the other is powered and pushing forward. Same effect as a 4 wheel drive car compared to 2 wheel drive.

c) Makes punctures easier to deal with as when you have to deal with gearing and electric cables on the rear wheel it can make changing inner tubes more difficult and time consuming.

d) You can remove the front wheel and battery easily and fit a standard front wheel if you want to use the bike as a normal bike temporarily, maybe touring or when cycling longer distances beyond the range of the batteries.

e) they tend to be more reliable on the front, more of the rider weight is at the back so less weight on the bearings and axle of the hub etc which are more difficult to service on motor hubs.

f) geared hubs like this are relatively light and actually lighter than some front suspension forks which can be as much as 3.5kg so no worse than having front suspension however if you combine front suspension and a geared hub that is probably too much weight and I personally would never do that as steering would be too heavy especially for weaker people.

However you have to look at the actual bikes you are considering to make a comparison it really depends on specific components fitted to the bike but front motor hubs make a huge amount of sense for a lot of people and can mean a much more reliable stronger bike.
markvirgo27/10/2019 11:51

Cheap for a reason 24v battery and a 8.7ah battery.Motor on the front …Cheap for a reason 24v battery and a 8.7ah battery.Motor on the front wheel22kgsThis is like a bike that has had a electric kit added Always look for a sub 20kg bike, 36v battery at least 10ah, 250w motor, rear wheel motor and a battery on the frame not on the rear pannier rack.


Can you recommend one for about this price ! I still fancy one to have a mess about with on my day off....

Thanks

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bonzobanana27/10/2019 12:48

Advantages I can think of;a) you can have a higher quality stronger freehub …Advantages I can think of;a) you can have a higher quality stronger freehub based rear wheel with wider gearing compared to many entry level rear motor hubs that only take low quality freewheels with poor high gearing. Also freewheels wobble so the gearing needs more frequent adjustment and doesn't shift as well. Some e-bikes use 8 or 9 speed freewheels which are notoriously unreliable on the rear hub.b) Evens tyre wear between front an back as the bike is effectively all wheel drive so can improve drive on poor surfaces, even when one wheel is slipping the other is powered and pushing forward. Same effect as a 4 wheel drive car compared to 2 wheel drive.c) Makes punctures easier to deal with as when you have to deal with gearing and electric cables on the rear wheel it can make changing inner tubes more difficult and time consuming.d) You can remove the front wheel and battery easily and fit a standard front wheel if you want to use the bike as a normal bike temporarily, maybe touring or when cycling longer distances beyond the range of the batteries.e) they tend to be more reliable on the front, more of the rider weight is at the back so less weight on the bearings and axle of the hub etc which are more difficult to service on motor hubs.f) geared hubs like this are relatively light and actually lighter than some front suspension forks which can be as much as 3.5kg so no worse than having front suspension however if you combine front suspension and a geared hub that is probably too much weight and I personally would never do that as steering would be too heavy especially for weaker people. However you have to look at the actual bikes you are considering to make a comparison it really depends on specific components fitted to the bike but front motor hubs make a huge amount of sense for a lot of people and can mean a much more reliable stronger bike.


Gearing in these ranges are not an issue for average joe, Changing tyres isn't any different for the rear wheel motor driven apart from the motor wire and the the servo brake wire. Punctures are not an issue if you fill sith tyre slime. Never had an issue with grip as you wouldn't be using an electric bike to go off road. Electric bikes are made to be used without using the electrics so no need to change the wheels.

I worked for an electric bike co and would say anyone looking to buy one to test ride a couple in the shop to see what suits them
markvirgo27/10/2019 16:30

Gearing in these ranges are not an issue for average joe, Changing tyres …Gearing in these ranges are not an issue for average joe, Changing tyres isn't any different for the rear wheel motor driven apart from the motor wire and the the servo brake wire. Punctures are not an issue if you fill sith tyre slime. Never had an issue with grip as you wouldn't be using an electric bike to go off road. Electric bikes are made to be used without using the electrics so no need to change the wheels. I worked for an electric bike co and would say anyone looking to buy one to test ride a couple in the shop to see what suits them


Smallest cog on a freewheel is typically 14 teeth but a freehub and cassette can be 11 teeth so for the same cadence you can be getting on 30% faster on a freehub equipped bike compared to freewheel plus it will shift more reliably and be stronger and lets not forget the motor only assists up to 15mph so above that high gearing is pretty important. Freewheels are light duty components with small pawls in the mechanism. Cheap low grade components basically and the 8 and 9 speed freewheels are even worse than the Shimano models which only go to 7 speed. You don't need to go off-road to benefit from extra grip we get rain and ice in the UK on the roads. Punctures can still happen with slime filled tubes but their frequency is reduced and having both electrical cables and gearing to deal with for rear punctures makes it more time consuming, a front hub motor means a puncture on the front means you are spending similar time on a front or rear puncture rather than a short time at the front but a very long time with a rear puncture. As a heavy rider I tend to get more punctures to the rear with few issues on the front wheel.

Lots of e-bikes have additional drag from the motor when unpowered. This is common on mid mount motors and non-geared hub motors but if you are using a geared hub motor without battery for long rides do you really want to cycle around that extra weight and wear out the internals of the motor hub. A quick conversion to a non e-bike makes a lot of sense temporarily but also when you have worn out the e-bike components, the battery is no longer holding much charge and the hub motor gearing is worn out (they don't last anywhere as long as a direct drive hub motor) then you can easily convert the bike back to a normal bike rather than scrap it.

Another advantage I've just thought of is if you want to use hub gears on the rear then you have to use a front hub motor. Many want all weather hub gears on the rear for a commuting bike with a perfect chainline for low maintenance and can even have a chain cover so you'd have to use a front hub motor for such bikes. Like the Brompton below. I think on the Brompton it can help calm the slightly twitchy handling as the front wheel movement is made slightly heavier so in this instance actually improves handling but that is likely a rare advantage that only applies to small wheels like the 16" wheels on the Brompton which normally has incredibly light steering due to the tiny weight of the 16" wheels.

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