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Cannondale SuperSix Evo Hi-Mod Disc Team 2019 road bike £4499 @ Startfitness.co.uk

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Posted 17th Jul

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This is madness... o more needs to be said.. so many things I could do with a spare 4.5k and buy a pedal bike is thousands down on the list...
superb price for an epic machine
tour de france material
Mr_Bump17/07/2019 00:45

superb price for an epic machinetour de france material


How many people on hotukdeals are also tour de France material, that's the bigger question haha
£4500 and no pedals?
comedychris17/07/2019 00:30

This is madness... o more needs to be said.. so many things I could do …This is madness... o more needs to be said.. so many things I could do with a spare 4.5k and buy a pedal bike is thousands down on the list...



comedychris17/07/2019 01:22

How many people on hotukdeals are also tour de France material, that's the …How many people on hotukdeals are also tour de France material, that's the bigger question haha



there is deals for everyone hotukdeals.com/dea…266
comedychris17/07/2019 00:30

This is madness... o more needs to be said.. so many things I could do …This is madness... o more needs to be said.. so many things I could do with a spare 4.5k and buy a pedal bike is thousands down on the list...


Your list needs rearranging
Now if I had the spare cash or room for another bike ........... anyone want to buy a kidney
comedychris17/07/2019 00:30

This is madness... o more needs to be said.. so many things I could do …This is madness... o more needs to be said.. so many things I could do with a spare 4.5k and buy a pedal bike is thousands down on the list...


Pretty sure that is not how this site works.
I watch a retired pro on YouTube tour climbs on one of these, he loves it. Absolute beast of a bike
Cannondale don't make anything themselves, Dorel closed down the testing and R&D facility in the US in 2015. There's a few people designing frames and paintwork in the US or possible Canada (Dorel is Canadian) and sending those designs to the real factory and engineers but which factories are they in the far east. It's hard for Cannondales to be good value at normal prices, the logistics are expensive and Dorel like a very high margin on Cannondale but use the cheapest factories they can get away with. This won't be from a cheap factory of course its higher end then there is all the costs of supporting multiple sporting events and marketing. This all adds to the cost of every bike. Ultimately you need to look at what you are getting compared to other brands and if you actually need the groupset fitted. Bicycle groupsets start as poor at the low end but quickly get much better and quickly turn into massive diminishing returns. Open mould carbon fibre frames start at about $80 factory door price in the far east and companies like Planet X sell frames and forks for £300 based on such frames.

A recent video here for a CF build for £730. How much better would the Cannondale be in real terms? Probably an absolutely marginal difference. How much better would the assembly quality be, probably much better for the custom build as Dorel uses cheap basic assembly plants in the far east and you would likely be more careful making sure grease was everywhere it was needed. See the sickbiker video below. The new CAAD13 clearly has moved to a cheaper factory, the welds are more basic and nothing like the CAAD12. It's pointless arguing about quality because its unknown as we don't know who makes Cannondale bikes for sure. Dorel sell a lot of walmart bikes and became successful by always sourcing cheaper than their competitors just like walmart themselves. Cannondale is a lifestyle choice, it's all about promoting the brand and experience and feeling connected with their sporting success. It's not about what the bike's originally suggested seling price is it is whether it is good value at £4,500 compared to other bikes, it's obvious the original suggested selling price was not realistic hence the huge reductions here.

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A quick look on ebay shows this bike;

ebay.co.uk/itm…192

Claims he has put £1000 of upgrades into it and sold for pretty much £1,000 so with ebay fees probably got back less than what he paid for the upgrades. Just making the point depreciation on bikes is horrific for top end models. You will lose thousands of pounds quickly. Maintenance costs are horrific too as top end groupsets need top end groupset replacement parts as they wear out or fail. Also such bikes often have proprietary parts which can be excessively priced to say the least. Personally I don't see the point but then I'm the type of guy that would choose to buy a Casio over a Rolex or a bag of shop brand toffees over designer chocolates.

The real crunch is a slightly fitter rider will beat you even on a £300 Halfords road bike because it's more about the engine than anything else.
+1

"The real crunch is a slightly fitter rider will beat you even on a £300 Halfords road bike because it's more about the engine than anything else."

Was having a conversation yesterday with someone telling me about how ceramic wheel bearings making a huge difference. I only wish it was true.

Yes, 4.5K is a lot of money for a bike but if it makes you feel good and you can afford it ( if only) go for it. How many spend that on a set of golf clubs? Or far more on a car that can go significantly faster than the speed limit?
Edited by: "stjs16" 17th Jul
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'Push bike with no pedals for life'.

Paying £4500 for a bike you can easily die 2 from shock.
Not even a hidden battery with this one.
stjs1617/07/2019 08:13

Yes, 4.5K is a lot of money for a bike but if it makes you feel good and …Yes, 4.5K is a lot of money for a bike but if it makes you feel good and you can afford it ( if only) go for it. How many spend that on a set of golf clubs? Or far more on a car that can go significantly faster than the speed limit?


This is one of the points I make to people - so long as it's comfortably affordable then it's no different to buying anything else which is more expensive than strictly required.
comedychris17/07/2019 00:30

This is madness... o more needs to be said.. so many things I could do …This is madness... o more needs to be said.. so many things I could do with a spare 4.5k and buy a pedal bike is thousands down on the list...


Yup I can see that, and had that conversation with someone recently regarding this . Firstly its a matter of choice, I choose not to spend 20-30k on a car when a 12k car does the same job.

Buying a bike like this, will typically last 10 years if well maintained. That works out at £450 year or £37 a month. I would rather have this and invest in health and wellbeing, than a Sky package.

Personally I am happy with my carbon bike, but again it was dearer than what most people would be prepared to pay. I would only consider buying this if I was every going to consider taking cycling to the next level.
Haggisbasher17/07/2019 14:48

Yup I can see that, and had that conversation with someone recently …Yup I can see that, and had that conversation with someone recently regarding this . Firstly its a matter of choice, I choose not to spend 20-30k on a car when a 12k car does the same job. Buying a bike like this, will typically last 10 years if well maintained. That works out at £450 year or £37 a month. I would rather have this and invest in health and wellbeing, than a Sky package. Personally I am happy with my carbon bike, but again it was dearer than what most people would be prepared to pay. I would only consider buying this if I was every going to consider taking cycling to the next level.


I could be wrong but I feel the logistics of buying from a bike company that doesn't manufacture itself, sponsors many sporting events and teams and has to go through all the stages of importation to final retailer means the bikes are exceptionally poor value. I honestly feel you could match the spec and have a similar riding bike for half this much or less but I'd never consider spending that much so would never be able to make the comparison myself. However in components terms you can make a comparison and clearly there are many bikes that offer the same components for far less. The X factor of riding a bike is not as quantifiable. It amazes me how so many cyclists are obsessed with brands even if their brand actually manufactures nothing at all itself and regularly swops factories for the bikes it imports so the quality level is constantly moving. I mean how many different factories have made Cannondale bikes, probably at least half a dozen possibly a lot more.
Edited by: "bonzobanana" 17th Jul
bonzobanana17/07/2019 15:52

I could be wrong but I feel the logistics of buying from a bike company …I could be wrong but I feel the logistics of buying from a bike company that doesn't manufacture itself, sponsors many sporting events and teams and has to go through all the stages of importation to final retailer means the bikes are exceptionally poor value. I honestly feel you could match the spec and have a similar riding bike for half this much or less but I'd never consider spending that much so would never be able to make the comparison myself. However in components terms you can make a comparison and clearly there are many bikes that offer the same components for far less. The X factor of riding a bike is not as quantifiable. It amazes me how so many cyclists are obsessed with brands even if their brand actually manufactures nothing at all itself and regularly swops factories for the bikes it imports so the quality level is constantly moving. I mean how many different factories have made Cannondale bikes, probably at least half a dozen possibly a lot more.


Ah but that is a totally different issue and is very similar in terms of car selection, In terms of components there cannot be 40k of a difference in the price of parts for something that basically does the same thing. I do tend to agree though consumer good tend to be overpriced and people pay for a brand name. . My bike is from a non-main stream manufacturer (Rose), I got so much more for my money than would have got going to a main dealer or brand.
bonzobanana17/07/2019 07:51

This won't be from a cheap factory of course its higher end then there is …This won't be from a cheap factory of course its higher end then there is all the costs of supporting multiple sporting events and marketing. This all adds to the cost of every bike.


So, basically, what you're saying is that you wrote acres and acres of text that have nothing to do with the specific bike in this deal (which is very nice, it must be said!), and then posted a video of a guy bolting cheap Tiagra parts onto a generic, non-disc chinese carbon frame, making some vague comments about "£300 Halfords bikes" being no different to the rider, by way of comparison.

In short, completely irrelevant to this deal. By all means comment on whether this particular deal is good based on what other deals are around for similiar spec bikes, or offer good, similar alternatives, but otherwise you may want to keep your prejudices well and truly to yourself.
LadyEleanor17/07/2019 09:56

'Push bike with no pedals for life'.Paying £4500 for a bike you can easily …'Push bike with no pedals for life'.Paying £4500 for a bike you can easily die 2 from shock.Not even a hidden battery with this one.


sorry to fail your post but it actually does have a hidden battery in the seat post for the Di2 electronics
comedychris17/07/2019 00:30

This is madness... o more needs to be said.. so many things I could do …This is madness... o more needs to be said.. so many things I could do with a spare 4.5k and buy a pedal bike is thousands down on the list...


what like coke and ket?
tiswas7318/07/2019 13:33

what like coke and ket?


Among other things... obviously... haha
daern18/07/2019 11:10

So, basically, what you're saying is that you wrote acres and acres of …So, basically, what you're saying is that you wrote acres and acres of text that have nothing to do with the specific bike in this deal (which is very nice, it must be said!), and then posted a video of a guy bolting cheap Tiagra parts onto a generic, non-disc chinese carbon frame, making some vague comments about "£300 Halfords bikes" being no different to the rider, by way of comparison.In short, completely irrelevant to this deal. By all means comment on whether this particular deal is good based on what other deals are around for similiar spec bikes, or offer good, similar alternatives, but otherwise you may want to keep your prejudices well and truly to yourself.


I did actually also post a link to a youtube video showing the appalling assembly quality of a Cannondale factory which is relevant surely. As for Chinese CF frames many big brands are using cheaper lower quality factories in Bangladesh or Cambodia for their CF frames so I don't think being Chinese is necessarily a negative and besides Dorel have a history of using very low end factories. How can you make a comparison if you don't know which factory Dorel used? Dorel may design great frames and geometry but surely the factory they actually send those designs too is relevant. Neither of us know which factory that is today. A few years ago it was fuji-ta and could still be but most bike brands are constantly resourcing to cheaper factories.

Looks like hotukdeals forum members have spoken anyway, this has gone cold. Also childish digs like 'acres and acres of text' and misquoting me about the £300 halfords bikes. I made the point a slightly fitter rider on a low end bike would beat a rider on a high end bike which is common knowledge surely as high end bikes have such tiny marginal gains and time improvements, I didn't say there was no difference to the rider that is subjective surely, I was purely making a quantifiable comparison based on how extreme rider fitness varies and therefore cycling times and the much smaller margin between low end and high end bikes where bicycle weights can vary by only a few kgs or marginal aerodynamic gains.
bonzobanana20/07/2019 15:02

I did actually also post a link to a youtube video showing the appalling …I did actually also post a link to a youtube video showing the appalling assembly quality of a Cannondale factory which is relevant surely. As for Chinese CF frames many big brands are using cheaper lower quality factories in Bangladesh or Cambodia for their CF frames so I don't think being Chinese is necessarily a negative and besides Dorel have a history of using very low end factories. How can you make a comparison if you don't know which factory Dorel used? Dorel may design great frames and geometry but surely the factory they actually send those designs too is relevant. Neither of us know which factory that is today. A few years ago it was fuji-ta and could still be but most bike brands are constantly resourcing to cheaper factories.Looks like hotukdeals forum members have spoken anyway, this has gone cold. Also childish digs like 'acres and acres of text' and misquoting me about the £300 halfords bikes. I made the point a slightly fitter rider on a low end bike would beat a rider on a high end bike which is common knowledge surely as high end bikes have such tiny marginal gains and time improvements, I didn't say there was no difference to the rider that is subjective surely, I was purely making a quantifiable comparison based on how extreme rider fitness varies and therefore cycling times and the much smaller margin between low end and high end bikes where bicycle weights can vary by only a few kgs or marginal aerodynamic gains.



To be precise you have stated "Cannondale don't make anything themselves" as they finished closing their USA factories in 2015. This is an example of taking 1+1 and coming up with 3. You fail to appreciate or quote that the USA closure, started in 2009, was transitioning roles to Dorel's other Asian factories, in main Taichung, albeit they have 2 other factories in Asia and a R&D facility in Taiwan. Also, if they do not produce anything, how do you have a video linking a Cannondale factory as you are now claiming? - is this not a contradiction?

You also state it is a complete unknown where they outsource to albeit then get their bottom end with Fujita. At top end they use Top Key which is also used by Merida.

Of course there is a lot of waffle in there which, tbf, comes across as incoherent babble. Technical authors (as you claim to be) are very precise and coherent in information as that role requires whereas you seem to flit from one narrative to another with contradictions - e.g. discussing welding quality on a top end carbon based bike post is a little strange.

You then want to compare yourself as a Casio customer (I think some of their specialist products would also be beyond you) and Rolex which, is in part, obvious.

The reality, keeping in context, is you are an owner of a Muddy Fox Race 200 purchased at £152 which you consider good value. Comparing your requirements and where you see value, to what is posted here, is analogous to going into a Ferrari dealership to tell them how much better value you get from a Dacia. The short and simple truth here is you are not the market they are aiming for and clearly never will be.

@OP nice post wheels and groupset alone worth 2.5k
Edited by: "vileda_the_best" 20th Jul
vileda_the_best20/07/2019 17:21

To be precise you have stated "Cannondale don't make anything themselves" …To be precise you have stated "Cannondale don't make anything themselves" as they finished closing their USA factories in 2015. This is an example of taking 1+1 and coming up with 3. You fail to appreciate or quote that the USA closure, started in 2009, was transitioning roles to Dorel's other Asian factories, in main Taichung, albeit they have 2 other factories in Asia and a R&D facility in Taiwan. Also, if they do not produce anything, how do you have a video linking a Cannondale factory as you are now claiming? - is this not a contradiction?You also state it is a complete unknown where they outsource to albeit then get their bottom end with Fujita. At top end they use Top Key which is also used by Merida. Of course there is a lot of waffle in there which, tbf, comes across as incoherent babble. Technical authors (as you claim to be) are very precise and coherent in information as that role requires whereas you seem to flit from one narrative to another with contradictions - e.g. discussing welding quality on a top end carbon based bike post is a little strange.You then want to compare yourself as a Casio customer (I think some of their specialist products would also be beyond you) and Rolex which, is in part, obvious.The reality, keeping in context, is you are an owner of a Muddy Fox Race 200 purchased at £152 which you consider good value. Comparing your requirements and where you see value, to what is posted here, is analogous to going into a Ferrari dealership to tell them how much better value you get from a Dacia. The short and simple truth here is you are not the market they are aiming for and clearly never will be.@OP nice post wheels and groupset alone worth 2.5k


I would have just gone with “bore off” but your response was much more structured and damning 😁
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