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Seagate Barracuda 4TB internal hard drive £96.47 @ Amazon
Seagate Barracuda 4TB internal hard drive £96.47 @ Amazon

Seagate Barracuda 4TB internal hard drive £96.47 @ Amazon

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Not sure about the RRP but this seems a decent price per TB

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MrHot

There really isn't nothing wrong with Seagates.


So there is something wrong with them? (_;)

edd666999

super tempting to bite the bullet and replace the 7 2TB WD greens i've … super tempting to bite the bullet and replace the 7 2TB WD greens i've had on 247 for the past 4 years!


Yyy I wound not replace anything 24/7 with Seagate to be honest
Edited by: "lucyferror" 16th Apr

Said it before...ALL harddrives of ALL makes fail under stress... none are truly reliable or dependable...
tried them all with similiar results..... so always backup your important data...
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super tempting to bite the bullet and replace the 7 2TB WD greens i've had on 247 for the past 4 years!

edd666999

super tempting to bite the bullet and replace the 7 2TB WD greens i've … super tempting to bite the bullet and replace the 7 2TB WD greens i've had on 247 for the past 4 years!


Yyy I wound not replace anything 24/7 with Seagate to be honest
Edited by: "lucyferror" 16th Apr

As above - once bitten twice shy!

lucyferror

Yyy I wound not replace anything 24/7 with Seagate to be honest



I ALWAYS thought this, hence the WD Green purchase all those years ago (their power on time is 3.2 years atm ) But Seagate still cant be that bad? Even their Ironwolf products?

edd666999

I ALWAYS thought this, hence the WD Green purchase all those years ago … I ALWAYS thought this, hence the WD Green purchase all those years ago (their power on time is 3.2 years atm ) But Seagate still cant be that bad? Even their Ironwolf products?



It's all luck of the draw. I've got a bog standard seagate 750gb in my old pc that's been on 24/7 (more or less) for 7 years. It was my main gaming pc for 5 years and the kids have been using it for the last 2.

It was the 3TB Seagates that were the issue (of which I bought 4).

lucyferror

Yyy I wound not replace anything 24/7 with Seagate to be honest



​That trope is getting way too old. There really isn't nothing wrong with Seagates.

Given the time of year it seems only right to wheel out this old classic:- hmmm 4TB, rather have 8 250GB's as I don't want to keep my eggs in one basket.

I've always sworn by WD over the years (after Samsung was taken over by Seagate) but at work recently, I've seen some WD blacks and greens fail prematurely despite having quite an easy life.

The only reason people think Seagate are unreliable is because of the Backblaze statistics. However, Backblaze run a 24/7 server environment that is unsuitable for consumer desktop hard drives. The level of wear these drives experience under Backblaze operation is much, much greater than the typical home user.

MrHot

There really isn't nothing wrong with Seagates.


So there is something wrong with them? (_;)

hmm, Seagate barracuda. Do these have issues/finite fail rate dependent on media cache?

MrHot

​That trope is getting way too old. There really isn't nothing wrong with … ​That trope is getting way too old. There really isn't nothing wrong with Seagates.



​*Seagrate

Recent Amazon reviews don't look encouraging. Several dead on arrival or shortly after.

Said it before...ALL harddrives of ALL makes fail under stress... none are truly reliable or dependable...
tried them all with similiar results..... so always backup your important data...

Seagate = hot from me.

cburns

Said it before...ALL harddrives of ALL makes fail under stress... none … Said it before...ALL harddrives of ALL makes fail under stress... none are truly reliable or dependable...tried them all with similiar results..... so always backup your important data...



Yes 321, 3 copies, 2 storage types, 1 offsite.

Old seagates were indestructible, back when they had the 'seashield' on the back. That was a great addition, dont get why they removed it. Since then reliability has gone down with it.

Like many at hukd I too have been waiting for decent hard drives to appear over the last months. We seem to be living in barren times and I do wonder if that has contributed to the popularity here.

Thing is, not being able to find this 4gb model on Seagate's own website makes me concerned as to their confidence in their own product.

I can find no data info nor manual specifically relevant (though they took the time with the Barracuda 250gb version).

I may be wrong, quite probably am because my thoughts above seem an obvious nonsense.

So, make me wrong good people so I can halt my incessant daily search and buy a reliable hd for a decent price.

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homebanjo

Thing is, not being able to find this 4gb model on Seagate's own website … Thing is, not being able to find this 4gb model on Seagate's own website makes me concerned as to their confidence in their own product. I can find no data info nor manual specifically relevant (though they took the time with the Barracuda 250gb version).



Isn't this it? seagate.com/int…da/

homebanjo

Like many at hukd I too have been waiting for decent hard drives to … Like many at hukd I too have been waiting for decent hard drives to appear over the last months. We seem to be living in barren times and I do wonder if that has contributed to the popularity here.Thing is, not being able to find this 4gb model on Seagate's own website makes me concerned as to their confidence in their own product. I can find no data info nor manual specifically relevant (though they took the time with the Barracuda 250gb version). I may be wrong, quite probably am because my thoughts above seem an obvious nonsense.So, make me wrong good people so I can halt my incessant daily search and buy a reliable hd for a decent price.



Look at model number on amazon (ST4000DM005). Search for model number on Google. Look at 2nd or so result which is a link to the full datasheet on seagate's website...

homebanjo

Like many at hukd I too have been waiting for decent hard drives to … Like many at hukd I too have been waiting for decent hard drives to appear over the last months. We seem to be living in barren times and I do wonder if that has contributed to the popularity here.Thing is, not being able to find this 4gb model on Seagate's own website makes me concerned as to their confidence in their own product. I can find no data info nor manual specifically relevant (though they took the time with the Barracuda 250gb version). I may be wrong, quite probably am because my thoughts above seem an obvious nonsense.So, make me wrong good people so I can halt my incessant daily search and buy a reliable hd for a decent price.


Seagate

Personally I had endless problems with WD to the extent that I am now exclusively Seagate and have had few issues over the last ten years or so.

parsimony

So there is something wrong with them? (_;)



​*anything

I know better, its a bad habit from my dad, although he pretends he doesn't understand to wind people up.

HPMan

Given the time of year it seems only right to wheel out this old … Given the time of year it seems only right to wheel out this old classic:- hmmm 4TB, rather have 8 250GB's as I don't want to keep my eggs in one basket.



​All in one basket, or 8 times more likely to lose 1/8th your data.

If you're running in windows there is software called stablebit drivepool(?) that can add redundancy for you across multiple drives if you have some free space.

Thanks to those who pointed me to the info. Sometimes I am blooming useless oO

At least you don't have to worry about parking the heads now!

Chuggee

The only reason people think Seagate are unreliable is because of the … The only reason people think Seagate are unreliable is because of the Backblaze statistics. However, Backblaze run a 24/7 server environment that is unsuitable for consumer desktop hard drives. The level of wear these drives experience under Backblaze operation is much, much greater than the typical home user.



If that was the case then the failure rates would be similar for all the drives tested, not just high for Seagate in particular.

Damned it and ordered one. A Big THANKS to the original poster.

It may help to know that it is out of stock at the mo, 'In stock on April 22, 2017.' As such if something better turns up in the next week it would be simple to cancel.

Thanks again to everybody who contributes and debates the pros and cons on this site. Stars the lot of you.

Chuggee

The only reason people think Seagate are unreliable is because of the … The only reason people think Seagate are unreliable is because of the Backblaze statistics. However, Backblaze run a 24/7 server environment that is unsuitable for consumer desktop hard drives. The level of wear these drives experience under Backblaze operation is much, much greater than the typical home user.



Currently I am running a 6TB HGST ultrastar (enterprise drive). I have only had 2 hard drives fail since 2003 both seagates with light usage. I was fortunate that I transfered my main drive to an ssd and converted the seagate to a download drive before it failed.

HPMan

Given the time of year it seems only right to wheel out this old … Given the time of year it seems only right to wheel out this old classic:- hmmm 4TB, rather have 8 250GB's as I don't want to keep my eggs in one basket.


Math meltdown
Have a day off
Edited by: "kreames" 17th Apr

Chuggee

The only reason people think Seagate are unreliable is because of the … The only reason people think Seagate are unreliable is because of the Backblaze statistics. However, Backblaze run a 24/7 server environment that is unsuitable for consumer desktop hard drives. The level of wear these drives experience under Backblaze operation is much, much greater than the typical home user.


Yep, not to mention that they cram 60 drives in a single enclosure... The vibration levels must be insane! It's really not a good benchmark for consumer drives.

Barracuda, the only type of drive to ever fail me, albeit some years back. For that reason, I'm out.

HPMan

Given the time of year it seems only right to wheel out this old … Given the time of year it seems only right to wheel out this old classic:- hmmm 4TB, rather have 8 250GB's as I don't want to keep my eggs in one basket.



Don't you mean 16?

cburns

Said it before...ALL harddrives of ALL makes fail under stress... none … Said it before...ALL harddrives of ALL makes fail under stress... none are truly reliable or dependable...tried them all with similiar results..... so always backup your important data...


SSD?

dudea729

Don't you mean 16?


No, I deliberately didn't state the corresponding size in multiples to equal the absurdity of the entire statement but thanks for playing.

aj_GB

SSD?



Even an ssd will eventually die, yes. Probably after 8+ years (perhaps more) for a normal user, depending on how much writes you do on it.

Ooh that's tempting, comes in a little below my benchmark price of £25/TB (last few 2TB drives were £50 a pop back in 2015).

noice
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