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Seagate BarraCuda 4TB/6TB Desktop Hard Drive 3.5" SATA III 6GB's 5400RPM, £76.19/128.33 at Ebuyer/ebay-with code

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Unless these are old stock (< 2017) these will be SMR drives, that's not necessarily a bad thing if you're mostly using the drive for write-once read-many, but if you're planning of writing/overwriting a lot I'd go with something else.
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Got a couple of 3TB barracudas in the PD rush, just waiting on them to come, these are a great price per GB and super solid for any media / storage needs for the money!
Awesome. In the middle of downloading all the GameCube games and need more room. Heat added from me
I bought Seagate Backup Plus which had these drives in it when opened and removed. Maybe I've asked before so sorry but are these equivalent to WD Green?
moh22317/07/2019 22:00

I bought Seagate Backup Plus which had these drives in it when opened and …I bought Seagate Backup Plus which had these drives in it when opened and removed. Maybe I've asked before so sorry but are these equivalent to WD Green?


These are comparable to the WD Blue drives. Those greens were quite bad
Unless these are old stock (< 2017) these will be SMR drives, that's not necessarily a bad thing if you're mostly using the drive for write-once read-many, but if you're planning of writing/overwriting a lot I'd go with something else.
5400rpm shudder
James12318/07/2019 00:21

Unless these are old stock (< 2017) these will be SMR drives, that's not …Unless these are old stock (< 2017) these will be SMR drives, that's not necessarily a bad thing if you're mostly using the drive for write-once read-many, but if you're planning of writing/overwriting a lot I'd go with something else.


Not at 4tb they won't be. The 6 might be, but again I don't think so. Really wish the manufacturers would be clear about this given the vast performance penalty in many scenarios.
MrMatt99118/07/2019 18:08

Not at 4tb they won't be. The 6 might be, but again I don't think so. …Not at 4tb they won't be. The 6 might be, but again I don't think so. Really wish the manufacturers would be clear about this given the vast performance penalty in many scenarios.


The 4TB Barracuda Computes are now (they didn't used to be in 2016-2017). I filled both a 4TB & 8TB yesterday (Barracuda Compute drives taken from Seagate Expansion external HDDs) and they're both SMR. I don't know about the 6TB, but considering they use the same 2TB platters as the 4TB & 8TB Barracuda Computes it's pretty safe to assume they will be too.
Edited by: "James123" 18th Jul
James12318/07/2019 18:41

The 4TB Barracuda Computes are now (they didn't used to be in 2016-2017). …The 4TB Barracuda Computes are now (they didn't used to be in 2016-2017). I filled both a 4TB & 8TB yesterday (Barracuda Compute drives taken from Seagate Expansion external HDDs) and they're both SMR. I don't know about the 6TB, but considering they use the same 2TB platters as the 4TB & 8TB Barracuda Computes it's pretty safe to assume they will be too.


I know spinning rust is dead, but they are going to destroy people's attitude to it even sooner if they keep foisting this rubbish on people and not warning them.
MrMatt99118/07/2019 18:57

I know spinning rust is dead, but they are going to destroy people's …I know spinning rust is dead, but they are going to destroy people's attitude to it even sooner if they keep foisting this rubbish on people and not warning them.


Yeah, they should really be forced to label which drives use SMR because the difference in performance is pretty huge depending on what you want to use it for. For my use (write-once archiving) it was fine, both drives copied at around ~150MB/s to full capacity, but if I try to overwrite any of those files now the write performance is poor (~45MB/s).
Every single barracuda I have ever had have failed and 3 of my mates have failed. Decent price to stick Media and crap onto but don’t buy anything on that isn’t easy to replace
moh22317/07/2019 22:00

I bought Seagate Backup Plus which had these drives in it when opened and …I bought Seagate Backup Plus which had these drives in it when opened and removed. Maybe I've asked before so sorry but are these equivalent to WD Green?


Yes, equivalent to WD greens that have been refurbished then dropped down the stairs..
James12318/07/2019 19:01

Yeah, they should really be forced to label which drives use SMR because …Yeah, they should really be forced to label which drives use SMR because the difference in performance is pretty huge depending on what you want to use it for. For my use (write-once archiving) it was fine, both drives copied at around ~150MB/s to full capacity, but if I try to overwrite any of those files now the write performance is poor (~45MB/s).


You're lucky. I find they drop to 10MB/s once the random access cache area is full. Perhaps the newer ones are less compromised. And write once is just as bad if you're writing separate files because the I/o is not sufficiently sequential.
rs_tigerblade18/07/2019 19:04

Every single barracuda I have ever had have failed and 3 of my mates have …Every single barracuda I have ever had have failed and 3 of my mates have failed. Decent price to stick Media and crap onto but don’t buy anything on that isn’t easy to replace


They're no worse overall than the WDs, though you obviously had some bad luck.
Heat thanks.
Super slllllooooowwwwww,!
Had one of these...only drive I’ve ever had fail (after 2 years)....I’ll stick to the Wd s I think..
Are these good for a synology NAS?

I got 2 x 2TB drive in a SHR RAID
Synology hybrid raid

How can I possibly upgrade these two 2tb drives to 2 x 6tb without losing the data?
Ebuyer inflate their ebay prices for some reason . The 4TB is £89 on the actual website and £100 on ebay
psd9918/07/2019 23:40

Are these good for a synology NAS?I got 2 x 2TB drive in a SHR RAID …Are these good for a synology NAS?I got 2 x 2TB drive in a SHR RAID Synology hybrid raidHow can I possibly upgrade these two 2tb drives to 2 x 6tb without losing the data?


not easily I imagine . How much data is actually on there
MrMatt99118/07/2019 19:14

You're lucky. I find they drop to 10MB/s once the random access cache area …You're lucky. I find they drop to 10MB/s once the random access cache area is full. Perhaps the newer ones are less compromised. And write once is just as bad if you're writing separate files because the I/o is not sufficiently sequential.


I have one from Amazon that is like this...it will often drop down to around 14mb/sec when reading as well, and just flatline at that speed for the entire copy operation. This is a 4tb version.

i assumed SMR too so I will only ever consider these for backup now. I had to buy a faster 4tb to replace it.
zinglebarb19/07/2019 07:31

Ebuyer inflate their ebay prices for some reason . The 4TB is £89 on the …Ebuyer inflate their ebay prices for some reason . The 4TB is £89 on the actual website and £100 on ebay


It's to accommodate the eBay skim of however many percent off the top, as well as the huge amount of fraud that originates from eBay buying/selling.
Edited by: "MrMatt991" 19th Jul
psd9918/07/2019 23:40

Are these good for a synology NAS?I got 2 x 2TB drive in a SHR RAID …Are these good for a synology NAS?I got 2 x 2TB drive in a SHR RAID Synology hybrid raidHow can I possibly upgrade these two 2tb drives to 2 x 6tb without losing the data?


I'd be surprised if Synology didn't have a documented procedure for installing larger drives in the array that starts with the line "back up your data" and ends with the line "restore your data from backup".
zinglebarb19/07/2019 07:36

not easily I imagine . How much data is actually on there


1.5 tb approx...
My synology is not hot swappable
Im guessing there is a way to upgrade the raid configuration by inserting a new drive when it is turned off
MrMatt99118/07/2019 19:15

They're no worse overall than the WDs, though you obviously had some bad …They're no worse overall than the WDs, though you obviously had some bad luck.


They definitely are, there are plenty of published tests of how unreliable they are, coming out worse than WDs, every time I post this I get comments of people having the same experience and like I said, I had many people that I know with the same experience...
rs_tigerblade19/07/2019 10:43

They definitely are, there are plenty of published tests of how unreliable …They definitely are, there are plenty of published tests of how unreliable they are, coming out worse than WDs, every time I post this I get comments of people having the same experience and like I said, I had many people that I know with the same experience...


I'm sure we've talking about this before, but sorry the scale of global drive shipments by all the manufacturers means no one individual can tell from their own experience what the overall trend might be.

I've had no more issues with SG drives than I've had with WD, so my personal experience doesn't match yours, either.
MrMatt99119/07/2019 11:29

I'm sure we've talking about this before, but sorry the scale of global …I'm sure we've talking about this before, but sorry the scale of global drive shipments by all the manufacturers means no one individual can tell from their own experience what the overall trend might be.I've had no more issues with SG drives than I've had with WD, so my personal experience doesn't match yours, either.


I’m not talking about personal experience, I’m talking about a lot of people’s experience as well as other published tests (such as backblaze) who have tested thousands of drives. They have a reputation for failing for a reason and seagate sell them cheap for that reason..
im not bothered, I’m not loyal to any brand but it’s a fair warning!
MrMatt99119/07/2019 11:29

I'm sure we've talking about this before, but sorry the scale of global …I'm sure we've talking about this before, but sorry the scale of global drive shipments by all the manufacturers means no one individual can tell from their own experience what the overall trend might be.I've had no more issues with SG drives than I've had with WD, so my personal experience doesn't match yours, either.


Backblaze statistics shows that Seagate drives fail 3 to 4 times more often than some others with certain models failing around 10x more often. One particular model of Seagate drive(ST3000DM001) has such a high failure rate that Seagate is facing a class action lawsuit from all the customers.‘
rs_tigerblade19/07/2019 15:44

Backblaze statistics shows that Seagate drives fail 3 to 4 times more …Backblaze statistics shows that Seagate drives fail 3 to 4 times more often than some others with certain models failing around 10x more often. One particular model of Seagate drive(ST3000DM001) has such a high failure rate that Seagate is facing a class action lawsuit from all the customers.‘


I know some backblaze numbers say this, and some *other* backblaze numbers say the opposite. We have been around this loop before - the only people who know the truth are the two manufacturers in question and they are not interested in reporting the real numbers. For all home users the real difference is negligible.

There are bad batches of drives occasionally. Other than those, the rest are about identical. One thing's for sure though, if there was no competition any more the world would be an expensive place to buy storage.

Personally I buy drives from as many different manufacturers as I can, specifically to avoid the impact of bad batches.
Mine arrived DOA (not visible to bios, visible to windows but IO error when using diskpart or diskmanagement to prep the drive - makes a couple of loud chirps when powered up then stops spinning).

Lovely. It wasn't packaged well, being in a jiffy bag surrounded by those air pocket things and was rattling around in the box. All the drives I've had in the past have been packaged in foam so couldn't move at all within the box.

Time to see if the eBuyer returns policy has changed - it used to be a faff with RMA numbers etc but of course that's irrelevant now that we have enhanced consumer rights for distance selling.
Edited by: "techno12" 24th Jul
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