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Seagate IronWolf 4TB NAS hard drive £109.99 delivered @ box.co.uk
Seagate IronWolf 4TB NAS hard drive £109.99 delivered @ box.co.uk

Seagate IronWolf 4TB NAS hard drive £109.99 delivered @ box.co.uk

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I've never used box.co.uk before but this seems a good price for a 4TB NAS hard drive. IronWolf drives come with a 3 year warranty and work well with Synology diskstations.

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shannensdaddy

Far too much data to loose when this fails...failure rates are pretty … Far too much data to loose when this fails...failure rates are pretty high on Seagate drives..



1. Lose
2. So what do you recommend we buy - floppy disks?
3. I guess you got that from the Ladybird book of Backblaze?

Seriously people need to start coming up with something *original* - please!
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I was considering 2 of these for my desktop due to them being cheap (incidentally they are same price on Amazon with Prime delivery too) but be aware they are only 5900RPM spindle speed I think. Fine for a NAS but if like me you're thinking of using it in a desktop there's probably better options.

yeah definitely don't use this in a desktop they are not meant to be powered down regularly they are designed to Stay on for long periods
Edited by: "feves92" 16th Jun

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feves92

yeah definitely don't use this in a desktop they are not meant to be … yeah definitely don't use this in a desktop they are not meant to be powered down regularly they are designed to Stay on for long periods


I wouldn't rule out using these in a desktop - it depends on your use case. A slower spindle tends to mean lower power and quieter. All the IronWolf models are rated to 600,000 load cycles so I'm not sure where your information about not being powered down regularly comes from?

May as well get a drive designed for a desktop from the same supplier and slightly cheaper £108.48

Seagate BarraCuda 4TB SATA III 3.5" Hard Drive https://www.box.co.uk/products/cat/Components%7eB%7eHard+Drives%7eB%7eDesktop+SATA/refine/48828~51694

Can you use this for CCTV and will it be suitable?

theratedone

Can you use this for CCTV and will it be suitable?




Yes

I run two of these on my cctv system. 9 cameras 1080p recording 24/7. Never had an issues

Though unsure if it’s the intended use with low spindle speeds?
Edited by: "xeroc" 16th Jun

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Dave_dave69

May as well get a drive designed for a desktop from the same supplier and … May as well get a drive designed for a desktop from the same supplier and slightly cheaper £108.48Seagate BarraCuda 4TB SATA III 3.5" Hard Drive https://www.box.co.uk/products/cat/Components%7eB%7eHard+Drives%7eB%7eDesktop+SATA/refine/48828~51694


The Barracuda range only has a 2 year warranty though.

CyDoNiA

I was considering 2 of these for my desktop due to them being cheap … I was considering 2 of these for my desktop due to them being cheap (incidentally they are same price on Amazon with Prime delivery too) but be aware they are only 5900RPM spindle speed I think. Fine for a NAS but if like me you're thinking of using it in a desktop there's probably better options.



£119.98 at Amazon... would've been tempted otherwise!

sergiup17 m ago

£119.98 at Amazon... would've been tempted otherwise!



They were the same price. I guess some people ordered them and they hiked the price as a result.

The only hard drives to ever fail on me have been Seagate.

every segate drive that i have had has been very noisy - drive seeks etc

western digitsl never had this problem

Doesn't beat the magic £25/TB mark... but 3 year warranty might swing it

Far too much data to loose when this fails...failure rates are pretty high on Seagate drives..

I got a drive from box recently, it arrived safely but the packaging left much to be desired. No padding except the base provided by the drive's own plastic case it comes in. If your drive is coming to you over a longer distance it may arrive DOA.

I've never seen ebuyer, aria, scan or amazon package a drive so poorly.

shannensdaddy

Far too much data to loose when this fails...failure rates are pretty … Far too much data to loose when this fails...failure rates are pretty high on Seagate drives..



1. Lose
2. So what do you recommend we buy - floppy disks?
3. I guess you got that from the Ladybird book of Backblaze?

Seriously people need to start coming up with something *original* - please!

I yearn for the day when 5TB Canvio's were £99. Shuck em / RAID them / sorted.

GrahamStoneman

\x09\x09\x09\x09\x09\x09I've never used box.co.uk before but this seems a … \x09\x09\x09\x09\x09\x09I've never used box.co.uk before but this seems a good price for a 4TB NAS hard drive. IronWolf drives come with a 3 year warranty and work well with Synology diskstations.\x09\x09\x09\x09\x09



I've used them, customer 'service' was pretty abysmal in my experience and I wouldn't recommend them

GrahamStoneman

The Barracuda range only has a 2 year warranty though.



Sorry - I should have clarified that my comment was to those who were thinking of using it as a desktop drive.

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shannensdaddy

Far too much data to loose when this fails...failure rates are pretty … Far too much data to loose when this fails...failure rates are pretty high on Seagate drives..


Anybody losing 4TB of data when a drive fails deserves to lose all their data...

+1 For the name alone

feves92

yeah definitely don't use this in a desktop they are not meant to be … yeah definitely don't use this in a desktop they are not meant to be powered down regularly they are designed to Stay on for long periods



They might be optimised for nas and heavy work loads but that doesn't mean they can't be powered down like any other drive, these drives have exactly the same power management modes as any drive.

shannensdaddy

Far too much data to loose when this fails...failure rates are pretty … Far too much data to loose when this fails...failure rates are pretty high on Seagate drives..



Their high capacity drives are much more reliable, you can check backblaze failure rates.

wow good price

I'm Looking to setup a NAS to attach to my switch in a RAID 1 configuration
mainly photos, documents and songs/media.

how loud are these?

there is also this here for a bit more...

ebuyer.com/776…sva how are toshiba drives nowadays?

The only hard drives that have ever failed on me are Seagate Barracuda (multiple) and the Hitachi dekstar (or commonly known as deathstar due to the number of failures). Oh and 1 WD Red which was pretty much death on arrival.
Edited by: "Naqvi" 17th Jun

kick_u_in_the_nuts

every segate drive that i have had has been very noisy - drive seeks etc … every segate drive that i have had has been very noisy - drive seeks etc western digitsl never had this problem


I have had many wd drives fail on me,

Hitachi are normally very well regarded

the Death Star name was when they were made by IBM (i.e a very long time ago)

Don't buy Seagate unless you're going to store data you don't mind losing. Absolute garbage quality drives. Do yourself a favour and buy WD or HGST instead.

EMM386

Hitachi are normally very well regardedthe Death Star name was when they … Hitachi are normally very well regardedthe Death Star name was when they were made by IBM (i.e a very long time ago)



Wasn't the deathstar drive about 15 years ago?
That's a blast from the past. Many people on this site were not even born at that time!

feves92

yeah definitely don't use this in a desktop they are not meant to be … yeah definitely don't use this in a desktop they are not meant to be powered down regularly they are designed to Stay on for long periods



I don't know where you are getting your information, drives "intended" for desktop use are the lowest quality (Actually it's probably external drives) and will not be as robust as a NAS drive, intended for multi access and more read/write cycles. The fact that they are able to be run 24/7 is a positive, not a negative. I don't know why you would think they are meant to stay on for long periods anyway, it's not like they have to get up to temperature or spin at a constant speed, they will be accessed whenever they are requested, the same way if they were in a NAS.

But I would really only use them as data storage rather than running an OS from one.

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Just a quick update for anybody still considering this... My drive arrived yesterday, first impressions are good. It's extremely quiet. I can't even hear the difference between it spinning and not spinning, and there's no noise when data is being read or written. The PC uses about 4W more power idling and 6W when the disk is in use.

However the packaging by box.co.uk wasn't great. It was wrapped in an air filled hard drive pouch inside a plastic bag, but half of the air pockets had burst so part of the drive had no protection at all. SeaTools reports no errors so I'm fairly confident with it, but if I were to buy another one I wouldn't choose this company! And they used Hermes, who (in my area at least) are known to throw stuff around.

I brought a different hard drive from box.co.uk. Drive arrived in a cardboard box in a DPD bag. No padding what so ever. Beware.
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