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Seagate OEM 1.5TB Barracuda 7200.11 Internal Hard Disk Drive (7200RPM, 32MB Cache) £108.99 delivered - Amazon
Seagate OEM 1.5TB Barracuda 7200.11 Internal Hard Disk Drive (7200RPM, 32MB Cache) £108.99 delivered - Amazon

Seagate OEM 1.5TB Barracuda 7200.11 Internal Hard Disk Drive (7200RPM, 32MB Cache) £108.99 delivered - Amazon

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UPDATE - Now out of stock at Amazon, but eBuyer have stock at £109.99 delivered. Link changed to eBuyer. EDIT - Somehow I have broken the Direct Link so I'll put it here
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LATEST UPDATE - Now back in stock at Amazon 11/02/2009 23:42 ! The direct link is working again.

This is the best price I can find for this huge drive. £per GB is now cheaper than the Samsung F1 1TB drives.

I have noticed that prices for the F1s have been increasing over the last few weeks, and I think the £/$ exchange rate is now affecting retail drive pricing. There are some current offers for 1TB drives which give a slightly lower £ per GB, but not for any drives that I would use.

The original release of this drive had a firmware problem which was evident when used with Linux/OSX but Seagate have released revised firmware. Yhe 'bug' did not cause data loss.

This drive was cheaper at Novatech but they have recently increased their price.

I haven't posted a picture, if you want one of these drives then you already know what it looks like!

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nice find ..hot

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stu_the_art;4339045

nice find ..hot



Thanks. I see the mindless freezer brigade are out already.:-D

Good price.

Just a warning - Amazon have been shipping some OEM hard drives with inadequate packaging see this and the reviews here.

If you receive a drive like this I suggest you return it and ask for better packaging for the replacement :thumbsup:

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charlie12;4339203

Good price.Just a warning - Amazon have been shipping some OEM hard … Good price.Just a warning - Amazon have been shipping some OEM hard drives with inadequate packaging see this and the reviews here.If you receive a drive like this I suggest you return it and ask for better packaging for the replacement :thumbsup:



Thanks for the warning, I will email Amazon.

Seagate are said to be the most reliable drives. Hot.

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pet2000;4339481

Seagate are said to be the most reliable drives. Hot.



Never had a problem with Seagates, but for the last few years I have been using only Samsungs. The Samsungs have frequently been well reviewed and always seem to offer the best balance of price, performance, and capacity. I have certainly had no problems with them, I find that they run cool and quiet.

I have seen too many Maxtors die to ever use them (yes I know they are now just a label for Seagate). The IBM Deathstars (back in the 40GB/80GB days) were so troublesome that it is hard to think of using HGST drives, and they never seem to hit the sweet spot on perfomance and value nowadays anyway.

I do rate the WD 2.5 drives highly but their 3.5s don't impress me.

"Usually dispatched within 1 to 2 months" ...

Banned

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These will probably be coming down in price as the newer 2TB drives are now shipping. Hot price for present time tho.

There has been lots of press about a high failure rate with these drives.

theinquirer.net/inq…ing

If anyone does buy one of these, I highly recommend you avoid the OEM versions and stick to the retail packs as these will have better warranty.

K.

I second Kraven. Seagate drives are USUALLY reliable and fast. But the latest drives from Seagate proved to be much less reliable and failure is much more probable.

Showing as £123.95, Dispatched from and sold by IT Hardware Direct Ltd.

out of stock

just checked and showing £123.95 plus postage voted cold

Boylin;4349596

Showing as £123.95, Dispatched from and sold by IT Hardware Direct Ltd.



Same here, however Ebuyer seem to be doing it for £109.99 delivered...

ebuyer.com/pro…459

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kraven;4349437

There has been lots of press about a high failure rate with these … There has been lots of press about a high failure rate with these drives.http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/374/1050374/seagate-barracudas-7200-11-failingIf anyone does buy one of these, I highly recommend you avoid the OEM versions and stick to the retail packs as these will have better warranty.K.



I referred to the problem in the original post. There are more recent articles (available using Google) which confirm that Seagate have identified the cause of the problem and have issued revised firmware.

These OEM drves have a 5-year warranty so that is no less than the retail packaged drives.

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Amazon have sold out but the drive is available for £109.99 delivered from ]eBuyer. 37 in stock at 14:01

OEM and Retail carry the same manufacture warranty. only difference is packing and no cables supplied

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Ebuyer deal looks good! Hot!

was looking at these just yesterday & read a review on tomshardware.com about this drive. They say this drive is very good as a storage drive but wouldnt recommend this as a drive to install windows on as its not quite as fast in some areas as other drives are for running windows.

Il try & find the review again & post a link

Voted Hot. Before I order can anyone guide me as to whether this will be ok to fit into a Dell E520. I have two ports that are labelled SATA and this hard drive is SATA 2. Are they backward compatible?

Coming up with a custom 404 error now.

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Gamerfreak;4349928

Coming up with a custom 404 error now.



If you look at the original post you will see that when I updated it to eBuyer I managed to break the Deal link :oops:

Sorry

sanjsanj;4349919

Voted Hot. Before I order can anyone guide me as to whether this will be … Voted Hot. Before I order can anyone guide me as to whether this will be ok to fit into a Dell E520. I have two ports that are labelled SATA and this hard drive is SATA 2. Are they backward compatible?




if you have a SATA port then this will be compatiable

Whoops. Didn't read that. :$

I wasn't going to buy it, though. Just mentioning.

*Goes away... slowwwly*

kraven;4349437

There has been lots of press about a high failure rate with these … There has been lots of press about a high failure rate with these drives.http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/374/1050374/seagate-barracudas-7200-11-failingIf anyone does buy one of these, I highly recommend you avoid the OEM versions and stick to the retail packs as these will have better warranty.K.



There are lots of problems with the 7200.11 series. Some say firmware problems. The Seagate forums are full of complaints of lack of support.
My own 500GB 7200.11 went down yesterday at 3 months old. I can naturally return and get a replacement but I want to wait if there is a fix so I can retrive some data I had not backed up. I've logged a support case with them - still waiting for a reply.
Be warned...

All versions of SATA are forward/backward compatible, it'll just operate at the lowest speed (SATA = 150mb/s, SATA II = 300mb/s).

I bought a 1.5TB HDD from Scan.co.uk a couple weeks ago (for £120) - went for Western Digital due to their five year warranty. Also because they just replaced my 150GB Raptor HDD (i.e. the 10k RPM drive which is awesomely fast and cost £150) as it broke after 3 years use, but was still in warranty.

craigtumilty;4350059

if you have a SATA port then this will be compatiable



Thanks

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borandi;4350142

All versions of SATA are forward/backward compatible, it'll just operate … All versions of SATA are forward/backward compatible, it'll just operate at the lowest speed (SATA = 150mb/s, SATA II = 300mb/s).I bought a 1.5TB HDD from Scan.co.uk a couple weeks ago (for £120) - went for Western Digital due to their five year warranty. Also because they just replaced my 150GB Raptor HDD (i.e. the 10k RPM drive which is awesomely fast and cost £150) as it broke after 3 years use, but was still in warranty.



Not all SATA chipsets will work with all SATA 300 drives by default. Sometimes it is necessary to set the drive to 150 mode, either by jumper or software. This is a problem if you have the type of drive that needs setting through software and your only SATA ports won't recognise the drive to allow changing the mode.

xmal;4349095

These will probably be coming down in price as the newer 2TB drives are … These will probably be coming down in price as the newer 2TB drives are now shipping. Hot price for present time tho.



Only shipping in Australia for now and with a RRP of $299, not cheap for what you get unless you only have room for one drive in your machine.

To re-iterate the point, Seagate are normally decent, but this range of drives should be avoided.

There has been a very high failure rate (like 50%) after a few months of use. The drives refuse to respond, and are not repairable by a reset/reformat.
A fix was recently issued for drives yet to be affected, but was then withdrawn because it fixed some problems and caused others. (20th Jan)
A fix for the fix was issued more recently and that may work. But I am not going to invest in one of these drives given the proven unreliability, and untested nature of the fix. And any drives being sold now are probably the older stock with the dodgy firmware, as the older drives will not have worked through the distribution system yet.


Apart from that, the performance would be more than sufficient for any non-professional use.

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spraint;4350224

Only shipping in Australia for now and with a RRP of $299, not cheap for … Only shipping in Australia for now and with a RRP of $299, not cheap for what you get unless you only have room for one drive in your machine.



I have also seen an indicated price of £280. OK they will drop, but my concern is that the £/$ exchange rate has not filtered through to component prices yet. I am sure that manufacturers and suppliers will cut margins to the bone in the current economic climate, but there has to be a limit. I would instance the price of the 1TB Samsung, I last bought them at under £70 but it is now hard to find them much below £80.

I also read that one of the largest memory manufacturers has filed for insolvency, so we may see memory price increases if the remaing suppliers can squeeze the supply.

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Fabula;4350262

To re-iterate the point, Seagate are normally decent, but this range of … To re-iterate the point, Seagate are normally decent, but this range of drives should be avoided.There has been a very high failure rate (like 50%) after a few months of use. The drives refuse to respond, and are not repairable by a reset/reformat.A fix was recently issued for drives yet to be affected, but was then withdrawn because it fixed some problems and caused others. (20th Jan)A fix for the fix was issued more recently and that may work. But I am not going to invest in one of these drives given the proven unreliability, and untested nature of the fix. And any drives being sold now are probably the older stock with the dodgy firmware, as the older drives will not have worked through the distribution system yet.Apart from that, the performance would be more than sufficient for any non-professional use.



According to ]Anandtech the revised fix was issued on 22/1 and they have not reported any further problems. As far as I can tell the problem was originally noticed with the 1.5TB drive, and that was what the fix was developed for. However it was subsequently discovered that the problem existed with various 500GB and 640GB drives. I believe these were the ones adversley affected by the original fix.

Caveat Emptor.

bytemaster;4350221

Not all SATA chipsets will work with all SATA 300 drives by default. … Not all SATA chipsets will work with all SATA 300 drives by default. Sometimes it is necessary to set the drive to 150 mode, either by jumper or software. This is a problem if you have the type of drive that needs setting through software and your only SATA ports won't recognise the drive to allow changing the mode.



Too true. I had this problem with an Aopen motherboard and a Samsung HD. The 150 sata port on the Aopen motherboard won't work reliably with 300 HD's. Had to configure the Samsung down to 150 using software from Samsungs site. WD and Seagate were easy using a link on the HD.

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virgo17;4350785

Too true. I had this problem with an Aopen motherboard and a Samsung HD. … Too true. I had this problem with an Aopen motherboard and a Samsung HD. The 150 sata port on the Aopen motherboard won't work reliably with 300 HD's. Had to configure the Samsung down to 150 using software from Samsungs site. WD and Seagate were easy using a link on the HD.



Did you manage to do it on the Aopen m/b or did you have to use another?

Big drives are becoming a pain. They're nice to have, but if you don't buy another one to use as backup then you risk losing ridiculous amounts of data (unless you can back it up at work.....).

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markbloke;4352595

Big drives are becoming a pain. They're nice to have, but if you don't … Big drives are becoming a pain. They're nice to have, but if you don't buy another one to use as backup then you risk losing ridiculous amounts of data (unless you can back it up at work.....).



It is not the size of the drive that matters, it is the amount of data that you don't want to lose.

You could store 1.5TB of data on 6 x 250GB drives but unless you have them all backed-up (on another 6 x 250GB drives) you stand to lose data. If only 250GB of the data is critical then you could choose to just have one 250GB back-up drive. But if only 250GB of your data is critical then that is all you need to back-up from your 1.5TB drive.

So you need back-up capacity which is, at least, equal to the amount of data that you are not prepared to lose.

But with a 1.5TB drive you stand to lose 1.5TB of data in one go. With 6x250GB the chances of losing all of it in one go are slim. The 1.5TB drive is more convenient and easier to power though.
For most people using these drives the data is likely to be media files - mostly video. Yes I know there are exceptions but that's what most people will be using it for. Most of the data will have equal levels of importance and it's likely to be not particularly critical, it's just a huge nuisance to replace it.

good price - just bought another 500GB version.

but with these drives, remember to UPDATE TO THE LATEST FIRMWARE.
or they will go dead in a few months - mine did - hopefully ebuyer will send me a replacement.

more info: seagate.custkb.com/sea…931
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