Seat Ibiza 1.2 TSI FR - 24 Month Lease, £711 deposit, £118.64 pcm  @ Carleasingandhire
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Seat Ibiza 1.2 TSI FR - 24 Month Lease, £711 deposit, £118.64 pcm @ Carleasingandhire

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Found 25th Jul 2012
Hi all

Possibly a fairly limited audience for this but I saw it posted on twitter and thought it might help someone out.

Would be very interested myself except we're not really in the market for another small car.

Given the depreciation etc then I reckon this is probably slightly better if not the same than buying a new one on finance. Of course you don't get anything at the end of it but then if you're looking at leasing you probably already know that

Rough specifications from what I could see are:

0-60 9.8 Seconds
£30 Tax
105BHP
55mpg (combined)

More information here if you need it

carconfigurator.seat.co.uk/sea…k=1

RRP looks about £13k before discounts.

174 Comments

You can get this model for 10,999 from the other seat thread.

It's a good deal, but the mileage at 8k isn't enough. Shame.

Outstanding deal.

Does this include tax/service/insurance?

8K mileage is very very low

breadfred

Does this include tax/service/insurance?



I think it does. Along with a chauffeur, free petrol, a bloke to wash it and a woman in a bikini who hides in the boot to change your tax disc every year.

However, I know for sure that it comes with a link to a page where you could find out the facts for yourself in 30 seconds.

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Burbage Fox

8K mileage is very very low



I wouldn't fancy walking it......
Edited by: "copthis1" 26th Jul 2012

copthis1

I wouldn't fancy walking it......


Dilbert

I think it does. Along with a chauffeur, free petrol, a bloke to wash it … I think it does. Along with a chauffeur, free petrol, a bloke to wash it and a woman in a bikini who hides in the boot to change your tax disc every year. However, I know for sure that it comes with a link to a page where you could find out the facts for yourself in 30 seconds.



Thank you for your helpful insightful reply. I must be blind as I can not see anything re insurance or servicing included on their website. Instead of making sarcastic comments, you could have been helpful by giving a direct answer or just abstaining from commenting. Instead, you choose to be a sarcastic troll.

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breadfred

Does this include tax/service/insurance?



Tax yes, others no.

10k/1year service intervals so you'd only have to do one service (in theory).

I couldn't see it but there's normally a set fee for extra miles as well.

Ha ha, nice Dilbert, I love sarcastic comments. Always makes me laugh. Can you tell me if the car comes with a steering wheel?

Looks not a too bad a deal, do you pretty much wave the deposit goodbye or are allowing car park dings and general wear and tear?

8k in two years? more like 6 months

SkilledNutter

8k in two years? more like 6 months



8k per year.

8k per year!

SkilledNutter

8k in two years? more like 6 months



16k in two years...

Just over 21 miles a day.

breadfred

sarcastic troll.



Harsh, cheer up!!

Fantastic price for a nice looking car, heat added.

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breadfred

Thank you for your helpful insightful reply. I must be blind as I can not … Thank you for your helpful insightful reply. I must be blind as I can not see anything re insurance or servicing included on their website. Instead of making sarcastic comments, you could have been helpful by giving a direct answer or just abstaining from commenting. Instead, you choose to be a sarcastic troll.




Oooooh don't get out yer pram.....or Seat for that matter.

breadfred

Thank you for your helpful insightful reply. I must be blind as I can not … Thank you for your helpful insightful reply. I must be blind as I can not see anything re insurance or servicing included on their website. Instead of making sarcastic comments, you could have been helpful by giving a direct answer or just abstaining from commenting. Instead, you choose to be a sarcastic troll.



Can you go online and find out what the weather is going to be like tomorrow and then post back here for me? I could and should do it myself of course but I wanted to give you the opportunity to be helpful.

Yes I was being sarcastic - but would you prefer I just called you idle instead?

As for the deal, I'm extremely tempted. The Mrs has a Seat Arosa at the moment and only does about 5K miles a year. A little over £25 a week for a new car sounds very appealing.

Dilbert

Can you go online and find out what the weather is going to be like … Can you go online and find out what the weather is going to be like tomorrow and then post back here for me? I could and should do it myself of course but I wanted to give you the opportunity to be helpful.Yes I was being sarcastic - but would you prefer I just called you idle instead?As for the deal, I'm extremely tempted. The Mrs has a Seat Arosa at the moment and only does about 5K miles a year. A little over £25 a week for a new car sounds very appealing.



You won't find a better deal, and the 1.2 TSi 105 is arguably the best car in the range, real sweet engine.

Good deal OP

I actually make it £3440.56 total payable (29 x 118.64)

Could be wrong though?

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zermattbusby

Good deal OPI actually make it £3440.56 total payable (29 x 118.64)Could … Good deal OPI actually make it £3440.56 total payable (29 x 118.64)Could be wrong though?



Thanks

You're not wrong, I assumed 24 x 118.64 + the deposit, which is wrong, it's 23 plus the deposit, can a mod correct the post if they see this please?

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DaveJustice

Thanks :)You're not wrong, I assumed 24 x 118.64 + the deposit, which is … Thanks :)You're not wrong, I assumed 24 x 118.64 + the deposit, which is wrong, it's 23 plus the deposit, can a mod correct the post if they see this please?



Corrected now!

Seriously tempted by this and the price is WAY cheaper than anything else I could find. Still looking for the catch....

punkstoner1

so, this 1.2 is faster than my 2012 1.6 fiesta zetec s. somehow i dont … so, this 1.2 is faster than my 2012 1.6 fiesta zetec s. somehow i dont think so.



Why do you say that? The Seat has 7 more BHP and is 25Kg lighter. It's not rocket science.
Edited by: "Dilbert" 27th Jul 2012

punkstoner1

Wrong.Fiesta has 120PS, this equals about 118BHP.



My apologies, it was the previous model that only had 98BHP. That said, the Ibiza is 25Kg lighter and produces 23Nm more torque (175Nm vs 152Nm). Assuming I've read the right page this time.

Edited by: "Dilbert" 27th Jul 2012

punkstoner1

so, this 1.2 is faster than my 2012 1.6 fiesta zetec s. somehow i dont … so, this 1.2 is faster than my 2012 1.6 fiesta zetec s. somehow i dont think so.



1.2 TSI can put out as much as 120BHP from stock. Bit faster than a 1.6 Fiesta Zetec and they can be remapped to 140BHP and will then destroy a 1.6 Zetec.

punkstoner1

[Is it 3 or 4 cylinder?



Turbocharged 4 cylinder 16v.

youtube.com/wat…rel

None left at this price now....

Oh well, I took the plunge and ordered the Mrs a slightly better model than the one quoted here (metallic paint, improved alloys and some other bits and pieces for £123 per month).

By the way, this model (the FR) is the top non-performance model and comes with air-con, traction control, ESP, electric windows etc etc.

So £28 a week for a brand new car that retails for £13,000. If someone can tell me what the catch is, I'd love to know.

We are really considering this too, have a toyota from hubbies work but prices are going up so much we can't afford it. We test drove one at the weekend and it was very good and nice through the gears, quick in second and nice when turbo kicks in, loads of room as well. Hubby is 6ft 2 and easily got in the back.
I rang this company up and asked about increasing to 12k miles a year and it was 134 a month. Seat dealer couldn't get anywhere near to this price on a pcp. The daytime lights are £725 extra but look so nice, for some reason there is something ...and i am not sure what, holding me back despite this being an amazing price in comparison to the other cars for my budget.

The local Seat dealer told me he was very suspicious and said he'd be looking at £250 per month or more for a similar deal. Too good to be true? If there is a catch, what is it? The company have been around a while and seem profitable. Has anyone dealt with them before?

Sounds tempting...
Even Citroen C1 is more expensive than this.
Anyone ordered this car?

nnj10

Sounds tempting...Even Citroen C1 is more expensive than this.Anyone … Sounds tempting...Even Citroen C1 is more expensive than this.Anyone ordered this car?



I've got the order form to complete for a September delivery but my hand keeps hovering over the submit button. I'm sure there is a catch here but what is it? The only suggestions I've had are that the service would have to be from a main dealer and that there'll be an argument that the car is not in the expected condition when it's returned. If anyone has dealt with Evolution or has had a car on personal contract hire I'd love to hear about their experiences.

The seat garage quoted me £180 a month with 10k miles and same deposit over 3.5 years on a PCP!! That included the service. The salesman kept trying to sell it that I would own the car at the end, but I pointed out that a PCP is just the same as a lease, except it gives me the option to buy at the end which I am not bothered about and there may be a very slim chance it is worth more than the GFV.
I rang evolution and you would only need to service this once and the first service with Seat is 129£ for the FR. He did say though that he would recommend any scratches chips etc are dealt with before it goes back because the hire company are expensive in comparison to your local bodyshop / chipsaway etc. I also want to see the terms and conditions etc before I bother going ahead with it

Bexyboo1312

The seat garage quoted me £180 a month with 10k miles and same deposit … The seat garage quoted me £180 a month with 10k miles and same deposit over 3.5 years on a PCP!! That included the service. The salesman kept trying to sell it that I would own the car at the end, but I pointed out that a PCP is just the same as a lease, except it gives me the option to buy at the end which I am not bothered about and there may be a very slim chance it is worth more than the GFV. I rang evolution and you would only need to service this once and the first service with Seat is 129£ for the FR. He did say though that he would recommend any scratches chips etc are dealt with before it goes back because the hire company are expensive in comparison to your local bodyshop / chipsaway etc. I also want to see the terms and conditions etc before I bother going ahead with it



Same here - though the guy I spoke to (John) would only send me the terms and conditions once I'd paid a deposit to order the car. That put me off a bit. As for stone chips, I thought the idea was that the car was returned in expected condition for a 2 year old vehicle. If they expect brand new condition, they're not going to get it. I think this may be the catch. I bet whatever nick the car goes back in they'll say it's not good enough and want to charge a grand to put it right.

The deal is not underwritten by Evolution, the Contract Hire / Lease agreement is actually supplied by one of the UK's largest Contract Hire Company's - Evolution are acting as a broker on this deal - they have negotiated a batch order with the manufacturer - they then place the lease agreement with the Contract Hire company - which generates the low rate deals, the Contract Hire company set their own residual value on the car - clearly they have more faith in the SEAT product than SEAT themselves otherwise SEAT dealers would be able to offer a similar priced deal - the reason they can't is simply because SEAT set a much lower residual value on their own cars.

The condition of any the vehicle at the end of this type of contract has to be in line with its age and mileage. The accepted condition of a vehicle being returned on a lease agreement is governed by the British Vehicle Rental and Leasing Association (BVRLA) the following link take you to their relevant page: bvrla.co.uk/Adv…spx No overcharging can take place at the end of the contract and don't forget - when you car goes back at the end of the lease, the company who supplied it will know one thing for certain and that is that most people will need another car and they will want to keep you as a customer, not scare you off with made up costs.

There simply is no catch - these type of deals are cheap for two reasons, no matter who the supplier is, 1) the discount from the manufacturer is fairly large due to the volumes being purchased and 2) the Lease company set a high residual value on the car at the end of the contract - which means the payments are low.

Manufactures use these types of deal to sell more cars without showing how much discount they are giving, because all the consumer ever sees is how much a month the car is – no cash price is ever disclosed on a Lease agreement.

Mercedes and Audi use this method to sell more cars as it doesn’t disclose discounts.

Thinneville

The deal is not underwritten by Evolution, the Contract Hire / Lease … The deal is not underwritten by Evolution, the Contract Hire / Lease agreement is actually supplied by one of the UK's largest Contract Hire Company's - Evolution are acting as a broker on this deal - they have negotiated a batch order with the manufacturer - they then place the lease agreement with the Contract Hire company - which generates the low rate deals, the Contract Hire company set their own residual value on the car - clearly they have more faith in the SEAT product than SEAT themselves otherwise SEAT dealers would be able to offer a similar priced deal - the reason they can't is simply because SEAT set a much lower residual value on their own cars.The condition of any the vehicle at the end of this type of contract has to be in line with its age and mileage. The accepted condition of a vehicle being returned on a lease agreement is governed by the British Vehicle Rental and Leasing Association (BVRLA) the following link take you to their relevant page: http://www.bvrla.co.uk/Advice_and_Guidance/Fair_wear_and_tear_standards.aspx No overcharging can take place at the end of the contract and don't forget - when you car goes back at the end of the lease, the company who supplied it will know one thing for certain and that is that most people will need another car and they will want to keep you as a customer, not scare you off with made up costs.There simply is no catch - these type of deals are cheap for two reasons, no matter who the supplier is, 1) the discount from the manufacturer is fairly large due to the volumes being purchased and 2) the Lease company set a high residual value on the car at the end of the contract - which means the payments are low.Manufactures use these types of deal to sell more cars without showing how much discount they are giving, because all the consumer ever sees is how much a month the car is – no cash price is ever disclosed on a Lease agreement.Mercedes and Audi use this method to sell more cars as it doesn’t disclose discounts.





Thinneville, that's a really excellent post. Thanks very much!

8,000 isn't enough mileage for me, I've been quoted £138 per month with the initial payment being £833 for mileage of 15,000 per year. Seems like a great deal, especially for the FR version.

Has anyone else actually taken the plunge and gone for one of these?

Can't believe this deal never hit the front page, it's one of the best lease offers I've seen.
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