Seat Leon Cupra ST 300 £241 inc. VAT per month 24 mths / 8000 miles p/a / initial payment of £1,446 - total amount £6,989 @ Stable Vehicle Contracts
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Seat Leon Cupra ST 300 £241 inc. VAT per month 24 mths / 8000 miles p/a / initial payment of £1,446 - total amount £6,989 @ Stable Vehicle Contracts

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Found 25th Oct
SEAT Leon STlease and contract hire2.0 TSI ST Cupra 300Includes Metallic Paint
Metallic PaintFree Delivery to Mainland UKFree Delivery to Belfast PortRoad Tax For Entire ContractBluetooth19" AlloysLED HeadlightsMedia System Plus with Navigation SystemCruise Control System (CCS)Front & Rear Parking Sensors

I think this is worth a try 10K miles £246 on personal contract hire.

HOT FOR ME.

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fireman112 m ago

Strong and stable vehicle contracts.



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Strong and stable vehicle contracts.

Was looking for a ST. Found some old deals for way cheaper, now it’s sprung £280-£300 a month depending on 9-12 upfront. Might go for this

Golf r deal goes live early November so wait for that?

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6x241
Plus any fees?
It’s much more

Yes total is wrong in title

It's a 6 + 23 at £241 for 8k P/A mileage. This works out to be £6989, so not sure how you've worked out £5784.

Also, it's cheaper here at on a 1+23 at £279. Can't see any fees mentioned, so total = £6696

seatwarrington.co.uk/new…258
Edited by: "ahenners" 25th Oct

fireman112 m ago

Strong and stable vehicle contracts.



Building a lease
deal that works
or everyone
F

ahenners19 m ago

It's a 6 + 23 at £241 for 8k P/A mileage. This works out to be £6989, so n …It's a 6 + 23 at £241 for 8k P/A mileage. This works out to be £6989, so not sure how you've worked out £5784.Also, it's cheaper here at on a 1+23 at £279. Can't see any fees mentioned, so total = £6696http://www.seatwarrington.co.uk/newcars/details/seat/leon-sport-tourer/20-tsi-cupra-300-5dr/17258



Scroll down a bit - "Admin of £179 is payable on all contract hire deals"

revdesol7 m ago

Scroll down a bit - "Admin of £179 is payable on all contract hire deals"


Well spotted!

fiestasteve4444 m ago

Golf r deal goes live early November so wait for that?


How do you know about the Golf r deals. Do u have some details you could share. Thanks

If u get a lease through a main dealer then there are zero admin fees. All lease companies charge a fee and then put it through a main dealer anyway. The fee is their cut. So go to a main dealer - not all like to do personal lease so shop around until you find one that does and save yourself a few hundred £.

doddza697 m ago

How do you know about the Golf r deals. Do u have some details you could …How do you know about the Golf r deals. Do u have some details you could share. Thanks


There will be an offer on golfs early in November. This info is from a solid source. So I would hold off on this Leon deal as the golf at the same or cheaper price is better value and a better car.

fiestasteve4416 m ago

There will be an offer on golfs early in November. This info is from a …There will be an offer on golfs early in November. This info is from a solid source. So I would hold off on this Leon deal as the golf at the same or cheaper price is better value and a better car.


Estate only or hatch too? I'd heard about the former but really want the latter!

Well... you can't get that on Gran turismo sport

fiestasteve4410 h, 8 m ago

There will be an offer on golfs early in November. This info is from a …There will be an offer on golfs early in November. This info is from a solid source. So I would hold off on this Leon deal as the golf at the same or cheaper price is better value and a better car.


Are they launching a new model or something? I was gutted that I missed the last deal a few years back. From memory around £180pcm at 10k miles. Ridiculously cheap 😳

Garbage

I can’t understand how the ASA still allow car manufacturers to advertise “from £299 a month” and then hide a £6K customer deposit in the small print. Actually, I can put a much bigger deposit and it would be £200/month, so it’s both misleading and factually inaccurate.

Following the same logic, and to allow consistency in comparison across deals, I think it should be HUKD policy to insist that the deal’s title shows the pro-rata monthly cost after all fees (I.e. total upfront, plus fees, plus entire term rental all divided by # of months). This will remove any confusion and make comparing all deals fair.

DemonIT51 m ago

I can’t understand how the ASA still allow car manufacturers to advertise “ …I can’t understand how the ASA still allow car manufacturers to advertise “from £299 a month” and then hide a £6K customer deposit in the small print. Actually, I can put a much bigger deposit and it would be £200/month, so it’s both misleading and factually inaccurate.Following the same logic, and to allow consistency in comparison across deals, I think it should be HUKD policy to insist that the deal’s title shows the pro-rata monthly cost after all fees (I.e. total upfront, plus fees, plus entire term rental all divided by # of months). This will remove any confusion and make comparing all deals fair.


Most people seem to grasp it. (Initial rental + (x * monthly payments) + admin fee)

If you can't do the basic maths then you don't deserve to take advantage of the deal.

fiestasteve4412 h, 37 m ago

Golf r deal goes live early November so wait for that?


Don't they have Golf R's on there now or will they be reducing them further?

Mada0639 m ago

Most people seem to grasp it. (Initial rental + (x * monthly payments) + …Most people seem to grasp it. (Initial rental + (x * monthly payments) + admin fee)If you can't do the basic maths then you don't deserve to take advantage of the deal.


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Pete_100119 m ago

Don't they have Golf R's on there now or will they be reducing them …Don't they have Golf R's on there now or will they be reducing them further?


Where? Link if you have a moment please

fiestasteve4413 h, 5 m ago

If u get a lease through a main dealer then there are zero admin fees. All …If u get a lease through a main dealer then there are zero admin fees. All lease companies charge a fee and then put it through a main dealer anyway. The fee is their cut. So go to a main dealer - not all like to do personal lease so shop around until you find one that does and save yourself a few hundred £.



I would never use a main dealer as they are never cheaper, additionally I have always had the admin fees waived. Whilst lease companies will obviously order a car thorugh a dealer they will have access to deals that the main dealer does not.
Edited by: "unknownorigin" 26th Oct

unknownorigin4 h, 29 m ago

I would never use a main dealer as they are never cheaper, additionally I …I would never use a main dealer as they are never cheaper, additionally I have always had the admin fees waived. Whilst lease companies will obviously order a car thorugh a dealer they will have access to deals that the main dealer does not.



How?

CoeK41 m ago

How?


For the admin fee? Negotiate!

unknownorigin1 m ago

For the admin fee? Negotiate!


no, how does a lease company order through a main dealer but get access to better deals than the main dealer?

CoeK1 h, 0 m ago

no, how does a lease company order through a main dealer but get access to …no, how does a lease company order through a main dealer but get access to better deals than the main dealer?



Because corporate issue time-bound deals to lease companies. They use many channels to sell cars, not just dealers. Something like 38% of new car sales to millennials last year were made without a test drive or a trip to the dealer. Some manafacturers have been slower to come to the lease party, but they are all jumping on as consumption models change.

Dealers do not want to lease you a vehicle as they prefer capex and their financial reporting is modelled on this, also bear in mind dealers are franchises (mostly) - not corp outlets.

I used to bother going into dealers and they would just laugh at what i could get externally and tell me to go do it, which I do. My latest lease is an A5 (delivered July) that was 20% cheaper than the best deal Audi could offer.
Edited by: "unknownorigin" 26th Oct

revdesol18 h, 52 m ago

Scroll down a bit - "Admin of £179 is payable on all contract hire deals"



When the total lease price is nearly 30% less than the deprecation over the same period, £179 doesn't seem that much of a deal breaker!

unknownorigin7 m ago

Because corporate issue time-bound deals to lease companies. They use many …Because corporate issue time-bound deals to lease companies. They use many channels to sell cars, not just dealers. Something like 38% of new car sales to millennials last year were made without a test drive or a trip to the dealer. Some manafacturers have been slower to come to the lease party, but they are all jumping on as consumption models change.Dealers do not want to lease you a vehicle as they prefer capex and their financial reporting is modelled on this, also bear in mind dealers are franchises (mostly) - not corp outlets. I used to bother going into dealers and they would just laugh at what i could get externally and tell me to go do it, which I do. My latest lease is an S5 (delivered July) that was 20% cheaper than the best deal Audi could offer.



There is little difference to a dealer between you leasing the car, buying it in cash, taking HP or taking PCP.

If a lease company gets the vehicle from the dealer then they are paying the dealer for it, who make a profit and making a profit from you.

CoeK3 m ago

There is little difference to a dealer between you leasing the car, buying …There is little difference to a dealer between you leasing the car, buying it in cash, taking HP or taking PCP.If a lease company gets the vehicle from the dealer then they are paying the dealer for it, who make a profit and making a profit from you.


The difference is that the dealer contribution is fixed from corporate, so they will make less money (margin). There is massive difference with the different consumption models (think about finance for a start before we even talk about contribution%).
Edited by: "unknownorigin" 26th Oct

unknownorigin2 m ago

The difference is that the dealer contribution is fixed from corporate, so …The difference is that the dealer contribution is fixed from corporate, so they will make less money (margin). There is massive difference with the different consumption models (think about finance for a start before we even talk about contribution%).



That makes no sense.

A dealer will make a profit on all deals, maybe not direct from the customer but they will make up the profit in some way. So will a lease company. So how does 3 companies making profit from you get you a better deal than 2 companies making profit from you?

CoeK5 m ago

That makes no sense.A dealer will make a profit on all deals, maybe not …That makes no sense.A dealer will make a profit on all deals, maybe not direct from the customer but they will make up the profit in some way. So will a lease company. So how does 3 companies making profit from you get you a better deal than 2 companies making profit from you?


It is all about gross profit, any business wants to maximize its GP - if i make 3% from one channel, and 10% from another - which is my preference?

How is my sky line cheaper than if I bought from BT even though they lease it from BT! This is the world of business, do an MBA if you want to learn more.
Edited by: "unknownorigin" 26th Oct

unknownorigin2 m ago

It is all about gross profit, any business wants to maximize its GP - if i …It is all about gross profit, any business wants to maximize its GP - if i make 3% from one channel, and 10% from another - which is my preference?



You really aren't telling me any info here. Companies want profit, shock.

A dealership can sell a car for less than they paid for it and still make money on a deal. A dealer will make a small profit from a lease company, the lease company will make a profit from their customer but also need to make enough to cover the profit that the dealer made from them. So sometimes the dealer will give you a better deal.

unknownorigin3 m ago

It is all about gross profit, any business wants to maximize its GP - if i …It is all about gross profit, any business wants to maximize its GP - if i make 3% from one channel, and 10% from another - which is my preference?How is my sky line cheaper than if I bought from BT even though they lease it from BT! This is the world of business, do an MBA if you want to learn more.


That isn't how it works with BT either.

CoeK5 m ago

You really aren't telling me any info here. Companies want profit, …You really aren't telling me any info here. Companies want profit, shock.A dealership can sell a car for less than they paid for it and still make money on a deal. A dealer will make a small profit from a lease company, the lease company will make a profit from their customer but also need to make enough to cover the profit that the dealer made from them. So sometimes the dealer will give you a better deal.

If you sell something for less than you paid you make no profit. A business could do this but they would go out of business very quickly, with the exception of a loss lead (like a time bound deal to achieve a non-financial goal, such as market presence, foot flow or brand evangelism etc.).

If you want to learn how commercial finance works I would recommend doing an MBA, or at least reading some of the applicable modules.

CoeK8 m ago

That isn't how it works with BT either.



Sky lease the physical components from BT...how did you think it worked? Do you think they own their own physical infratstructure? I was intereested as you didnt explain your comment.

unknownorigin4 m ago

If you sell something for less than you paid you make no profit. A …If you sell something for less than you paid you make no profit. A business could do this but they would go out of business very quickly, with the exception of a loss lead (like a time bound deal to achieve a non-financial goal, such as market presence, foot flow or brand evangelism etc.).If you want to learn how commercial finance works I would recommend doing an MBA, or at least reading some of the applicable modules.



You are making stuff up as you go along it appears. A car dealer CAN sell a car for less than they paid for it and still make money because a car dealer gets commission from finance companies, volume bonus and manufacturer bonus. This is why you should take out finance even when you have the cash because you will get a better deal and you can pay the finance off straight away.

I suggest you don't assume what people know about commercial finance, I worked for vertu plc for 7 years as an accountant, I know how car dealer accounts work.

unknownorigin2 m ago

Sky lease the physical components from BT...how did you think it worked? …Sky lease the physical components from BT...how did you think it worked? Do you think they own their own physical infratstructure? I was intereested as you didnt explain your comment.



Sky do lease the lin from BT, as does everyone else that isn't virgin. But they don't make a loss when supplying a customer unless they can arrange a package that causes them a loss on the line rental but a gain on something else, a TV package for example.

CoeK8 m ago

You are making stuff up as you go along it appears. A car dealer CAN sell …You are making stuff up as you go along it appears. A car dealer CAN sell a car for less than they paid for it and still make money because a car dealer gets commission from finance companies, volume bonus and manufacturer bonus. This is why you should take out finance even when you have the cash because you will get a better deal and you can pay the finance off straight away.I suggest you don't assume what people know about commercial finance, I worked for vertu plc for 7 years as an accountant, I know how car dealer accounts work.



CoeK8 m ago

You are making stuff up as you go along it appears. A car dealer CAN sell …You are making stuff up as you go along it appears. A car dealer CAN sell a car for less than they paid for it and still make money because a car dealer gets commission from finance companies, volume bonus and manufacturer bonus. This is why you should take out finance even when you have the cash because you will get a better deal and you can pay the finance off straight away.I suggest you don't assume what people know about commercial finance, I worked for vertu plc for 7 years as an accountant, I know how car dealer accounts work.



They do not get money from the car sale, they get it from the associated finance. They cannot sell an asset for less than they bought it as a standalone transaction, the terminology is a little disingenuous.

Things have changed for dealers considerably, maybe since you were at verty - autonews.com/art…ers

unknownorigin5 m ago

They do not get money from the car sale, they get it from the associated …They do not get money from the car sale, they get it from the associated finance. They cannot sell an asset for less than they bought it as a standalone transaction, the terminology is a little disingenuous.Things have changed for dealers considerably, maybe since you were at verty - http://www.autonews.com/article/20170410/RETAIL07/304109970/factory-incentives-hurting-dealers



I never said a standalone sale.

That article has pretty much nothing to do with anything we are talking about btw, and it hasn't changed since I worked there, which wasn't too long ago.
Manufacturers have always had control over the franchise and deciding whether to allow a dealer to continue selling those vehicles and how much bonus they get etc.
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